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12-07-2011 , 04:31 PM
Sorry I'm a bit late to the party, just started this World Domination promo a few days ago. 78 cities in and I have 7 different 3rd column cities... from what I've read these are still the rare cities? Does this mean I should be grinding my ass off here? I have all three 3rd columns for S. America too... thx for advice
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12-07-2011 , 04:42 PM
It's the 3rd city listed on the map not the 3rd column on the table that are rare.
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12-07-2011 , 05:07 PM
ok thanks for bringing me back to reality... i have 0 rare cities obv :/
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12-07-2011 , 06:38 PM
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ok thanks for bringing me back to reality... i have 0 rare cities obv :/
lol it's okay. pretty standard. a lot of us have grinded a ton and we don't have much hope left :P
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12-07-2011 , 08:05 PM
Still hoping to get Hong Kong for Asia, not looking likely tho :/ Haven't gotten anything new in weeks. Berlin for Germany would be nice too.
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12-07-2011 , 11:15 PM
anyone remember the russian 40bb bots that played with exact same stats on partys FR games? looks like they are gone now.

rodkevitch - stopped playing oct25
Nozdrinn - stopped playing oct26
BurlakovvV - stopped playing oct27
Lovich123 - stopped playing oct27

Nirkov007 - stopped playing nov15
KazakovXX - stopped playing nov15
Fetzkoff - stopped playing nov15

those are the ones i reported to party at the end of october at least, included **** ton of stats and reads. there might be more that i missed

i know party has some serious problems but if they actually banned these accounts it is a step in the right direction
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12-08-2011 , 01:40 AM
Binked Hong Kong to get China today for $450. I've only gotten two countries but they're Japan and China so only Bangalore left to get Asia and $5,000...one time!

My Promo Summary thus Far:

Number of Cities dominated to date: 672
Prize(s) won to date: Cash prize: $57
Points: 620
Freerolls: ...crappy freerolls...
Number of Countries dominated to date: 2
Prize(s) won to date: Cash prize: $525
Number of Continents dominated to date: 0
Prize(s) won to date: Cash prize: $0

18 cities remaining


...gonna have to grind a **** tone this weekend, blech.
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12-08-2011 , 02:47 AM
Sort of encouraging to know there's still Chinas out there. I wonder if they can program the promo so that few people will hit the major continents.

ie: if someone needs a city to hit a continent, the program will send that city instead to someone who has no cities in that continent.
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12-08-2011 , 02:59 AM
i would have given you $1000 for that hong kong!
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12-08-2011 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mjm
Your credibility took a hit when you told us you now play on Ipoker.

Pretty much every site/network with the exception of Stars has serious issues that need/should be addressed. Pretty much everyone in this thread is aware of Party's shortfalls. We choose to play there because for whatever reason we believe it is the most +ev place to play. Which is exactly what you are doing by playing on Ipoker.

If it was all about the best run site we would all be at Stars, but there are other factors we feel justify playing elsewhere.
I agree every site has shortcomings, but PartyPoker have been caught red handed stealing tens of thousands of dollars off credible well known players and then attempting to bribe them with amounts as large as $2000 to stop posting about it on forums.

If you give them your money, you are supporting all of those people who want online poker banned.

Nevermind my credibility, check the threads that I have posted - The consensus amongst regs and moderators alike is that the player in question is very credible.
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12-08-2011 , 04:49 AM
too bad the frenchies cant play at my tables

killamindz, you are saying party did this to several party.fr players? i thought there was only one?
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12-08-2011 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by killamindz
I agree every site has shortcomings, but PartyPoker have been caught red handed stealing tens of thousands of dollars off credible well known players and then attempting to bribe them with amounts as large as $2000 to stop posting about it on forums.

If you give them your money, you are supporting all of those people who want online poker banned.

Nevermind my credibility, check the threads that I have posted - The consensus amongst regs and moderators alike is that the player in question is very credible.
I've seen the french player thread, I've seen the SNG cheating thread. I can't be bothered to look thorugh an antipartypoker website, because it is going to have obvious bias.

I was playing on Party in tournaments when they had the server issues which was the cause of you leaving..I got stiffed, having to wait around for hrs for tournies that never restarted and then getting a refund based on stacks which had already been blinded down for an hr before the tournaments were paused while others were able to steal blinds freely. When I complained I was offered a $10 bonus as a 'goodwill' gesture.

Party poker support is terrible esp when you are not VIP. Party software is terrible (although not as bad as Ipoker imo). I do feel my funds are safe from the site stealing them/using them for operating costs.

The french player thread is still ongoing, the players claims look genuine, and I expect we will find it is another f up by Party support and the player will get his funds back but we will wait and see.

Saying playing on Party is supporting all those people who want online poker banned is ******ed. It's like me saying playing on Ipoker means you are in support of bots and the end of online poker.

Sadly due to the environment we are in with online poker, their are risks with playing on any site. If we wanted to minimize those risks we would play on Stars, however most of us are looking for the highest risk/reward ratio, and some of us believe we find that at Party.

I completely understand why some people don't want to play on Party or want to leave. You should probably understand there are reasons why some of us still play there.
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12-08-2011 , 05:40 AM
+1 to the above. good post
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12-08-2011 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
anyone remember the russian 40bb bots that played with exact same stats on partys FR games? looks like they are gone now.

rodkevitch - stopped playing oct25
Nozdrinn - stopped playing oct26
BurlakovvV - stopped playing oct27
Lovich123 - stopped playing oct27

Nirkov007 - stopped playing nov15
KazakovXX - stopped playing nov15
Fetzkoff - stopped playing nov15

those are the ones i reported to party at the end of october at least, included **** ton of stats and reads. there might be more that i missed

i know party has some serious problems but if they actually banned these accounts it is a step in the right direction
i reported them to,
this was the response from pp

Dear xxxxxxx,



Thank you for contacting us.



This message is to acknowledge the receipt of your complaint about unfair gaming practices by the players mentioned in your list.



Please note that all these accounts have been flagged and we are currently carrying out a full investigation into this matter and appropriate action would be taken if found guilty. We thank you for your valuable inputs.



However, we would request you to note that we presently have restrictions/countermeasures on known BOT applications and have proactively implemented security measures to identify and block such applications from running in conjunction with our poker software. As a part of this initiative we have implemented technical changes that would ensure that any such applications and software programs are identified, detected and rendered useless.



The Partypoker.com system uses 128-bit encryption certified by THAWTE to connect to each player’s system; it is state-of-the-art and one of the safest systems online, as it sits behind one of the most advanced firewalls in the world. We work with the best security advisers in the world to constantly upgrade the systems to protect your data and ours.



The 128-bit encrypted messages are 309,485,009,821,345,068,724,781,056 times harder to break than 40-bit messages. Thus, it would take the same technology used to crack the RSA 40-bit message 1 trillion x 1 trillion years to crack a 128-bit message. That's several trillion times longer than the age of the Earth. Thus, it will be impossible to know for a player to know what cards would be dealt on the board or for others.



I hope this puts your mind at rest regarding this and similar applications; we look forward to seeing you at the tables soon.



Contact us anytime, we are available around the clock to assist you with your account related questions and suggestions.



Sincerely,



Paul

Game Fairness & Security Team



Note: Your PartyAccount username and password are confidential information. No one from the company will ever ask for your password in a phone call or email message. Do not respond to any message or request that asks for your password.



*Pay-Pro and PartyCashier are service names of PartyGaming Group companies.
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12-08-2011 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wallpe
The 128-bit encrypted messages are 309,485,009,821,345,068,724,781,056 times harder to break than 40-bit messages. Thus, it would take the same technology used to crack the RSA 40-bit message 1 trillion x 1 trillion years to crack a 128-bit message. That's several trillion times longer than the age of the Earth. Thus, it will be impossible to know for a player to know what cards would be dealt on the board or for others.
sick brag right there
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12-08-2011 , 08:53 AM
yeah i got the same email that they were flagged etc. wonder how the encryption prevents bots though. did you ask them?

if anyone sees those russian accounts or anyone playing in similar style post here. i might post the stats i got on them later if i get the energy to copy/paste
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12-08-2011 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wallpe

However, we would request you to note that we presently have restrictions/countermeasures on known BOT applications and have proactively implemented security measures to identify and block such applications from running in conjunction with our poker software. As a part of this initiative we have implemented technical changes that would ensure that any such applications and software programs are identified, detected and rendered useless.
Either Party has no clue about bots or they assume their players have no clue about bots. Not sure which option I prefer.
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12-08-2011 , 01:19 PM
What in the world at suddenly whipping out how many bits they use on their connection encryption in an email about bots. That email is like a satire on a Party email.. but it's real. I honestly don't understand how these companies can, practically as a rule, be so damned incompetent when they are earning millions - hundreds of millions - per year in this game. I am honestly just completely stupefied.

They should mention that their client is also written in C++ so it's obviously bot proof. Party security - here I come. Good morning New Bangalore!
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12-08-2011 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mjm
I've seen the french player thread, I've seen the SNG cheating thread. I can't be bothered to look thorugh an antipartypoker website, because it is going to have obvious bias.

I was playing on Party in tournaments when they had the server issues which was the cause of you leaving..I got stiffed, having to wait around for hrs for tournies that never restarted and then getting a refund based on stacks which had already been blinded down for an hr before the tournaments were paused while others were able to steal blinds freely. When I complained I was offered a $10 bonus as a 'goodwill' gesture.

Party poker support is terrible esp when you are not VIP. Party software is terrible (although not as bad as Ipoker imo). I do feel my funds are safe from the site stealing them/using them for operating costs.

The french player thread is still ongoing, the players claims look genuine, and I expect we will find it is another f up by Party support and the player will get his funds back but we will wait and see.

Saying playing on Party is supporting all those people who want online poker banned is ******ed. It's like me saying playing on Ipoker means you are in support of bots and the end of online poker.

Sadly due to the environment we are in with online poker, their are risks with playing on any site. If we wanted to minimize those risks we would play on Stars, however most of us are looking for the highest risk/reward ratio, and some of us believe we find that at Party.

I completely understand why some people don't want to play on Party or want to leave. You should probably understand there are reasons why some of us still play there.
Thanks for your objectivity. I do slightly agree it's a little bit of a logical fallacy but I do think that by giving money to people who openly scam players on a regular basis it's supporting a site that gives ammunition to anti-online poker proponents. They will use any extra reason they can to say why it should be banned and this is just another one.

I'm glad you got a refund, I didn't even get a refund! They offered me $10 "good will" after arguing with the rude and illogically minded customer support man for 4 hours, but still no refund at all.

They still claim "there was no problem with our software" which is absolute rubbish I've had independent technicians check my connection retrospectively and it was working perfectly.

I want my money back to be quite honest and I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of other players that want the same.

Why can't the Party Poker rep who started this thread grow some balls and face up to what the site has done? I've shown them this thread, as well as the French players thread, they refuse to comment and have now said they will no longer reply to any of my emails.

In all honesty I feel like cashing out from the site I play on now so I can buy myself and a few friends a plane ticket to their head office to slap the **** out of somebody.
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12-08-2011 , 10:19 PM
Anyone hit a rare city today?
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12-08-2011 , 10:21 PM
Number of Cities dominated to date: 319
Number of Countries dominated to date: 1
Prize(s) won to date: Cash prize: $550

Binked Cali yesterday for Columbia and $550. Have only been back on Party since the start of December so I'm aiming for ~800ish cities by the end of the month.
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12-08-2011 , 10:26 PM
you guys do run very good in hitting rare cities, ya know that?
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12-08-2011 , 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CasperW
Anyone hit a rare city today?
poland for $750
ran like god at tables to turn month into profit too
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12-09-2011 , 12:47 AM
Palladiums check your emails, lots of people getting 33% RB cash prize offers for raking X before 23:59 Dec 31st.

$500 for 3k points, $1k for 6k points, etc

might just be a carrot for people that haven't raked much at all recently


Last edited by jspill; 12-09-2011 at 01:07 AM.
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12-09-2011 , 01:13 AM
I didn't get that email. I haven't gotten any type of bonus offers from them for at least 6 months.
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