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09-14-2013 , 07:38 PM
@Party_rep, please take a look at this thread!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...hread-1215651/

Just fix all of this, and you will be golden. Also yes to 9 handed mtt's obv. And some 6 handed mtt's would be nice as well.

Oh forgot something. Please make it possible to deal in rebuys for god's sake. It doesn't make any sense you can deal in fo's but not in rebuys.

Oh well, just one more thing. Reschedule the blind structure in the late stages please. I don't know why but late stages are basically always kind of crapshoots (avg is almost never above 25bb)

Oh and please remove the hand for hand with every pay jump, and start the bubble with 1 left to the money, and not 2.

It all doesn't make sense, so fix it please

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09-14-2013 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
@Party_rep, please take a look at this thread!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...hread-1215651/

Just fix all of this, and you will be golden. Also yes to 9 handed mtt's obv. And some 6 handed mtt's would be nice as well.

Oh forgot something. Please make it possible to deal in rebuys for god's sake. It doesn't make any sense you can deal in fo's but not in rebuys.

Oh well, just one more thing. Reschedule the blind structure in the late stages please. I don't know why but late stages are basically always kind of crapshoots (avg is almost never above 25bb)

Oh and please remove the hand for hand with every pay jump, and start the bubble with 1 left to the money, and not 2.

It all doesn't make sense, so fix it please
This all, +1

Seems like ending of mtts is more shallow just because you have these hand for hands at every payjump.. it should be just for the normal bubble and ft bubble.

Last edited by Sharkament; 09-14-2013 at 11:23 PM.
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09-15-2013 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mishanjka
Lessu, can you please tell how you run during this bonus ?
apart from 2 bad sessions, hotter than the sun

[x] jinxed
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09-15-2013 , 05:13 AM
Hi Party_rep,

Any chance "Fixed Limit Holdem" become the 1st choice of game like before on previous software ?
It is bad news for Limit game because many recreationnal just play the 1st choice game availaible and don"t care if it is Limit or No Limit and now they go more to NL with new software

thx
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09-15-2013 , 05:30 AM
@Party_rep: Why can't we change screenname? Is it bug or new "feature"?

Personally, I don't mind if you stop screenname changings, but allow us to make one last change to the nick we would like to keep forever (or until you go bankrupt^^). That wouldn't hurt you bottom line imo...
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09-15-2013 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Lessu
Before (I think they ended around 2008) bonuses were cleared with raked hands. Party used to have reload bonuses once a month (also on their skin empirepoker at the time) where you would get $50 or $100 bonus and you cleared it with 10 raked hands per $1

It didn't matter if the rake was 5c or $3, it counted as one raked hand. And you didn't even have to contribute to the pot
Those were the days, at all the sites.

Sigh.
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09-15-2013 , 06:03 AM
A bit tilted thinking about all the players still actively supporting a company that has made a mockery of online grinders and the entire online poker industry. If by some chance Party/Bwin pulls out of this it will be thanks to you regs keeping the traffic consistent. You'll have done your part in maintaining the precedence/standards we can all expect to enjoy in the future. You guys are like the negro workers who crossed the picket lines and helped the companies who were basically still running slavery like work conditions stay in business that much longer in the twenties.

Party/Bwin have admitted to rigging their player pool interactions. Even the admission was forced by the players who exposed the secret scheme, so there wasn't even any integrity in their disclosure.

Then they go on to change the value of points that some people have spent months acquiring with the belief that they were in a reliable business deal. A deal where the RB% they were promised for their months of work would be honoured in the end. As if that's not enough they also create new withdrawal fees with no notice, but don't allow people with no other means to withdrawal a chance to get their money out for the original deal if they so choose before enforcing the new fees. Both are clear examples of theft.

So Party/Bwin is literally a living insult to every active poker player and the entire online poker industry. But, you still pay them rake. If a girl killed your wife because she was into you, would you just start banging her anyway because she has a nice ass and you're horny? In this case the girl is fat and steals from your wallet when you sleep, but you still hit it the next day because it's easier than going out looking for a new decent girl

Edit: Let's not forget that they pocket any money confiscated from fraudulent accounts even if it's already been won by a legit honest grinder. Meaning if you get it in with AA pf against a scam account and lose, that's your tough luck, two outers happen. But if you won, expect to have the money deducted with no warning or explanation. Imagine all regs just jumped ship as soon as this was outed? The segregation and points scandals would never have even got started.

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09-15-2013 , 06:26 AM
Thanks very much for this insight into our (PP players') soul. I wish I had so much free time as you apparently do..^^

Have you ever considered that there might be players who have tens of thousands dollars locked in bonuses they need to clear? I had very close to 30k in the moment seggregation was reavealed and still have considerable amount what forces me to keep playing there for some more time. Maybe you're so much THE right guy that you would rather lose so much money, than play there, but I am not. I keep playing there, not starting tables anymore so basically just bumhunting and calculating (twice at least) outcome of everything I do regarding that site.

And yeah; I'm (using your words) a bit tilted reading all those smart comments about what is the right move. The more of them might make me consider moving before I get the most from there... oh, wait...
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09-15-2013 , 06:47 AM
Integrity went out of the window long ago. I reported MA Ring with screenshots for a year, but they seem not to be able to stop them.
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09-15-2013 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by opal
Thanks very much for this insight into our (PP players') soul. I wish I had so much free time as you apparently do..^^

Have you ever considered that there might be players who have tens of thousands dollars locked in bonuses they need to clear? I had very close to 30k in the moment seggregation was reavealed and still have considerable amount what forces me to keep playing there for some more time. Maybe you're so much THE right guy that you would rather lose so much money, than play there, but I am not. I keep playing there, not starting tables anymore so basically just bumhunting and calculating (twice at least) outcome of everything I do regarding that site.

And yeah; I'm (using your words) a bit tilted reading all those smart comments about what is the right move. The more of them might make me consider moving before I get the most from there... oh, wait...
I know there are guys like you totally burned by the points value move they made. I luckily had just started playing there in January this year and got out losing only a couple thousand in lost value early April. Haven't they made it so clearing your points is worth nothing more than just bad rake back now? If they are worth some significant value and you're strictly bum hunting their fish, then it's not quite as bad.
Also I'm pretty busy these days, so I've been rarely posting or even reading much 2p2. But this issue is pretty personal to me as you can tell.
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09-15-2013 , 08:46 AM
I am getting the "country/state is a mandatory field" error for the $215 ticket.
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09-15-2013 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by opal
Thanks very much for this insight into our (PP players') soul. I wish I had so much free time as you apparently do..^^

Have you ever considered that there might be players who have tens of thousands dollars locked in bonuses they need to clear? I had very close to 30k in the moment seggregation was reavealed and still have considerable amount what forces me to keep playing there for some more time. Maybe you're so much THE right guy that you would rather lose so much money, than play there, but I am not. I keep playing there, not starting tables anymore so basically just bumhunting and calculating (twice at least) outcome of everything I do regarding that site.

And yeah; I'm (using your words) a bit tilted reading all those smart comments about what is the right move. The more of them might make me consider moving before I get the most from there... oh, wait...
sounds like your just making excuses to me. The only reason why a person might not be able to leave is if they are a break even to slight loosing player and they rely 100% on rakeback. If your a winning player then your giving an excuse to stay rather than a reason because you could quite easily cut your losses in order to stand up for what you believe and move onto another site. Now that PP have created a loop system that means you have no instant cashouts would indicate that you have no intentions of ever leaving which is what PP intended to happen and all your trying to do is justify why you are still supporting them.

A few people that i know personally had big bonuses to release but they was disgusted enough with PP that they didn't spend another penny on their site and left without hesitation. The only thing stopping you from doing the same is yourself.
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09-15-2013 , 09:29 AM
lol

yeah, I'm b/e rb grinder who will spend the rest of his life there for 20% rb; sure...

Honestly, I don't give a **** in what you or 'few people you know' believe or not. I play poker for money, so it'd be stupid to give up money I might get if I keep playing there for another 2-3 months (yeah; I'm lazy bum and play on PS&FTP also, so can't focus on hard grind just to leave asap and to "look good on 2+2^^").

Oh, I almost forgot to thank you for deep psychological analysis of what keeps me playing on PP.
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09-15-2013 , 09:44 AM
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Haven't they made it so clearing your points is worth nothing more than just bad rake back now?
That's true. Now it sucks, but if you were lucky to buy bonuses under previous release conditions, it makes you indifferent to any changes they've made since then (and those that might come in the future also obv). It's true you might end up with 20k wortless points in the end, but for some people who started with WAY more than 20k in the beginning, it's still worth to keep playing...
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09-15-2013 , 09:50 AM
I guess I'm glad that PartyPoker.es is still using the old software. I wondered why it wasn't swapped over to the new platform.
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09-15-2013 , 10:08 AM
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lol

yeah, I'm b/e rb grinder who will spend the rest of his life there for 20% rb; sure...

Honestly, I don't give a **** in what you or 'few people you know' believe or not. I play poker for money, so it'd be stupid to give up money I might get if I keep playing there for another 2-3 months (yeah; I'm lazy bum and play on PS&FTP also, so can't focus on hard grind just to leave asap and to "look good on 2+2^^").

Oh, I almost forgot to thank you for deep psychological analysis of what keeps me playing on PP.
obviously you do otherwise you wouldn't be back ranting and raving about it all and yet again, justifying your reasons for still playing there. It bothers you more than you care to admit. If you get this rattled over a forum post, you must tilt super easy. Control yourself lol
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09-15-2013 , 10:31 AM
@DarkAqua: I expected more... that's not even worth any reasonable commenting.

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I guess I'm glad that PartyPoker.es is still using the old software. I wondered why it wasn't swapped over to the new platform.
I wonder the same. .es was their testing platform for the last year's merge with bwin, so it's either that they trully believed in the flawless product or they're really stupid.^^

Zynga and WPT are on the old skin also; thanks god
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09-15-2013 , 10:33 AM
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@Party_rep: Why can't we change screenname? Is it bug or new "feature"?

Personally, I don't mind if you stop screenname changings, but allow us to make one last change to the nick we would like to keep forever (or until you go bankrupt^^). That wouldn't hurt you bottom line imo...
You can try change it here:
https://secure.partyaccount.com/home_balance.do
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09-15-2013 , 10:47 AM
Thanks, but I tried it that way many times before:

"We are facing difficulties, please try again later. We regret the inconvenience caused."
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09-15-2013 , 10:52 AM
+ 1 million ebffs
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09-15-2013 , 11:05 AM
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Zynga and WPT are on the old skin also; thanks god
I checked all other skins except bwin are on the old skin.
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09-15-2013 , 01:04 PM
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I am getting the "country/state is a mandatory field" error for the $215 ticket.
M2 I was going to start using those to spend all of my points and get off party given the bonuses weren't working for this same exact reason...
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09-15-2013 , 01:42 PM
still not able to player transfer, been a week, getting the "player account does not exist" error, so is the person im trying to transfer to. GJ.
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09-15-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Any chance "Fixed Limit Holdem" become the 1st choice of game like before on previous software ?
It is bad news for Limit game because many recreationnal just play the 1st choice game availaible and don"t care if it is Limit or No Limit and now they go more to NL with new software
JSYK On the other skins (except bwin) on the network Limit is still top of the list in the lobby.
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09-15-2013 , 02:47 PM
great, got the tickets for $10K and $30K freerolls aaand..they are full
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