I meant Lock when I said "quit paying". The other revo skins except interops (which not everyone could play) were also trash for cash outs.

I guess if you have plenty of cash from other sources and/or don't care about having large sums at risk than that would be just fine. I have outside income as well, but I don't grind my ass off to wait months to get paid. To each their own I suppose. That doesn't really change the fact that most people do indeed care about how long it takes to get paid, regardless of if they cash out or not.

It really comes down to analyzing the risk vs the reward. I am an entrepreneur so I am inured to risk. I don't know of any risk free ways to make money. A poker player is by nature an entrepreneur as well, so accepting many forms of risk is a huge part of the equation. I own 2 Wingstop's (chicken wing restaurants) that cost me about 800K to build. Every day I am taking many risks....risks that my employees will steal my food or my money. Risks that they will waste my resources like leaving the back door open on a 90 degree day wasting my AC while they smoke, risks that they will be rude to my hard earned customers thus making them ex-customers. Most importantly, risk that I wont get enough customers thru the door and will lose my 800K. Many, many wingstops have failed....80% of all new restaurants fail in the first year. Risk/reward man. I think the risk of getting paid slowly is far outweighed by the reward of having a high concentration of bad players to battle. This isn't a theory, its kind of a fact. When Cake paid slow it was a goldmine....the minute they started paying fast, it attracted tons of grinders and the place became a cesspool. Leaving a few K on a few sites in exchange for being able to print $2500 every 3 weeks is not what I would call "having large sums at risk" as you describe it. I'd call it a very attractive risk/reward scenario..... We can agree to disagree though...

Is carbon cashing out players in a timely manner?

I deposited a small amount the other day out of boredom, and I've noticed there is a **** ton of overlay.

Anyone cashout recently?

Some what timely. 3-4 weeks has been about the standard for awhile.

Data compiled from all across the internet, including 2+2's Merge cashier thread, yielded an average time to receive a check, maximum of 2.5k, last month in June, of 15.43 days.

Source: "USA Poker Room Cashout Report | Review (July 2014)"


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Kahn

Not bad. Thanks guys.

Wingpin,

I played on cake during its prime a ton. I had an account on players only before they moved to merge. Cake used to have very fast withdrawals with epassporte, and the 400nl games played like 50nl today. Merge on the Jazette side had very fast withdrawals via debit card and once again the games were much better than they are today.

Now maybe our discrepancy is based solely on your game choice of exclusively husng, whereas I play almost all cash.

You think the sportsbetting guys who bet $5k/game that we all want to play with do so on sites that take 3 months to pay out?

Fast cashouts do not make the games tougher. Depositing being a pain in the ass, lack of promotions, casual players worried about the current legality of playing online, and no marketing make the games tougher.

I played on Cake in 2007 when they offered Epassporte...that was a totally different era in the evolution of online poker, so any comparisons to then are not worth making. I also played on Players Only when it was still a Cake skin in 2009 and then later when it became a Merge skin in 2010 or so and the games were very soft and I could cash out on UseMyWallet in a day, but again, the games were softer then everywhere, so not really valid to compare those days with now. I agree with all of the reasons you itemized making the games tougher, but I also think that fast payouts do as well with Bovada being the best example.....they pay very fast, and the husng's there at $50 are ridic hard....Obv we don't agree and that's fine.

Can I get some free Wing Stop coupons for my local Wing Stop? Big fan of the lemon pepper.

Then go to their thread and GTFO.

I'm familiar enough with your posts that I'd be very surprised if you don't have a very large influence in the direction of any conversations taking place at the tables.

The lemon pepper is the bomb, but be careful and don't eat too much of it.....its made with an ingredient that I sometimes refer to as "cancer butter" (never to my customers obv). Its similar to that stuff that they pour inside the metal ring before they lay the hashbrowns in at Awful House (Waffle house)

Talking about online poker is the last thing I want to do at a live poker table. If I get asked about it I respond, that's about it.

there are a lot of cancer butters now a days

I post there, but fortunately they give me very little to complain about so there is no need to post there often. They tend to do most everything right except for updating the software and jacking it up. Their $162 no reentry $200K is $236K today, no complaint here!!

When I was in G Wood I ate Lemon pepper WS like 4 times a week lol. GG me.

17 days had my last check in hand. Took another 2 weeks to clear the bank. The overlay doesn't concern me. Most tours that aren't going to reach their guarantee are canceled, others allow lat reg so late that they usually meet it because people buy in when there new buyin stack will literally be 5 bb. As you stated you can find some good overlay, but I dont see it effecting payouts or causing carbon to go broke anytime soon.

How widespread is this limiting of # of cash tables? I want to start playing on another skin network besides Winning but Merge is starting to sound kind of sketchy.

That is specifically related to your bank/bank manager sending it off for collections/not having an efficient means of processing foreign checks.


Not nearly as widespread as 2+2'ers makes it out to be.


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Kahn

^ LOL. Gotta love Kahn.

If you know then tell us.

Considering some skins cap you upon signing up while others let you play 16 tables... He's right in the sense that the majority of players won't be, but only because very few win. Clever way to respond.

Looks like I started a **** storm of nothing. Anyone Join PPA yet?

Been a member since 2012, how about you? Be sure to do the daily action plan!

i really hope this is that "leveling" thing i read about on here, b/ some1 would have a hard time finding another lobbying organization that can match the PPA's record of failure and uselessness.

That's unkind, no lobbying. Is there another public forum that I can join that is more "usefull"