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05-05-2014 , 03:14 PM
Cruz, not saying they aren't beatable (especially for midstakes players but that has changed recently with the Beast changes) but the fact that average pots on WPN are 3-5x as small as Merge says something about the types of players there.

Also completely agree their incompetent management and software is the biggest issue.
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05-05-2014 , 04:00 PM
Anyone else having problems getting their buy-ins back from the server issues from 5/2/14? Carbon emailed me back saying they didnt have server issues "yesterday" even though it was 2 days ago, going on three, and that they wouldn't be returning any of my multiple buy-ins that I had going in which i was forced to sit out and watch idly.
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05-05-2014 , 05:12 PM
What server issues? Didn't notice anything on the 2nd.
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05-05-2014 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Is it not against the rules to play under your own affiliate account?
Can the CEO of costco buy a membership to one of his stores? When an affililiate runs under a business name all his 'employees' are free to join.
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05-05-2014 , 06:02 PM
I have no idea what the rules are at Merge, but I'm pretty sure there are many sites that don't allow you to play under your own affiliate account.
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05-05-2014 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Synergistic Explosions
Can the CEO of costco buy a membership to one of his stores? When an affililiate runs under a business name all his 'employees' are free to join.
I would think the CEO of Costco would just have a membership already built into his benefits package?????
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05-05-2014 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatty
The VIP debate is not black and white. It is grey. There is rake. There are rewards. The THEORY of rewards is that the more you play on a site, the more you will get back (rewarded), and thus, the incentive is there for you to play on their site and NOT other sites. Poker sites LOVE rewards because it gives them all the control. They can make the rake high and give themselves guaranteed revenue. They can tweak their rewards system however they like giving out more money or less money.

If rake was reasonable, players wouldn't need or care about rewards. We only get into this VIP/rakeback game because rake is high. The debate revolves mainly around what is considered reasonable rake and how soft are the games? Players can tolerate a higher rake if the game is juicy. There is a sub debate about what Merge is going to do with all the VIP points they basically stole and the extra money they will have from stopping the VIP program. If they use that money to advertise or give incentive to fish and the games are softer, then maybe it's an even trade. If it's a money grab, I've moved half my action to Bovada anyway, so players like me are taking notice and voting with our dollars. Unfortunately, based on Merge's decisions, it seems to be what they WANT anyway.

The crux of the problem I have with these actions is that they put far too little value on winning players and more games running. They seem to be acting as if those players are cutting into their revenue when in fact we actually keep the ecosystem alive and functioning. There definitely should be a limit on how much a shark can multiply and swim in the water, but 2 and 4 table caps is too extreme and removing the VIP system across the board and not adjusting the rake is unsatisfactory unless the games get noticeably softer.

^^^ this. Merge easily has the toughest mtts across the board. The only thing that Merge has going for it is their software, which imo is considerably better than Bovada, and infinitely better than WPN software. ( WPN software makes me wanna cry if I am playing more than 2-4 tables. )

Bovada has far and away the softest mtts, and they also have ridiculously quick cashouts when compared to Merge and BCP. BCP has P2P, which is very nice, and is why I play there some coupled with their deeper/easier mtts over Merge. Carbon wins with great software, and overall game selection. You would think that one of these sites would integrate P2P + fast cashouts + great software together. I would imagine that they could dominate the USA market and make a killing in the process.
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05-05-2014 , 08:14 PM
OPS#11 7.5k guarantee- $5.50 entry, $5 addon, overlayed by $2806. This despite 1970 entries, rebuys and addons. Problem lay in the fact rebuys were only $1. Just sayin...Didn't realize until break. Could have pushed some marginal hands in effort to build a stack.

Last edited by goodsaint; 05-05-2014 at 08:20 PM. Reason: missed opportunities.
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05-05-2014 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by unluckyone
What server issues? Didn't notice anything on the 2nd.
For like 2 hours just before 1pm EST it was lagging so bad where it was forcing me to sit out and watch myself get blinded in my SnG's and I couldn't unreg. It was ridiculous. I even took screen shots of it happening and wrote down tournaments and they basically told me "no it didnt go **** yourself" and hasnt responded to my numerous emails in the past 24 hours.
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05-05-2014 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by goodsaint
OPS#11 7.5k guarantee- $5.50 entry, $5 addon, overlayed by $2806. This despite 1970 entries, rebuys and addons. Problem lay in the fact rebuys were only $1. Just sayin...Didn't realize until break. Could have pushed some marginal hands in effort to build a stack.
EDIT EDIT EDIT: $1 rebuys - now I get it. Odd, though, to have $5.50 entry, $1 rebuys, and $5 add-ons.

Last edited by IHasTehNutz; 05-05-2014 at 09:53 PM.
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05-05-2014 , 09:37 PM
You quoted the answer. $1 rebuys. Merge sucks.

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Problem lay in the fact rebuys were only $1
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05-05-2014 , 10:13 PM
Is there a Carbon rep that monitors this board? I have an issue regarding tournament coupons that haven't been credited to my account.
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05-05-2014 , 10:29 PM
No rep on this board, just email or live chat them
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05-05-2014 , 10:36 PM
wow im kinda pissed i didnt play that. $5 got you 2000 chips, then $1 got you 2000 chips lol. that had to have been a mistake no?

EDIT yeah some1 made a few thousand $$$ screw up. none of the other rebuy tournies have that structure, and #50 is an identical tournament with $5 re buys.
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05-05-2014 , 10:41 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a r/a tourney with cheaper rebuys before. I've definitely seen more expensive ones, like $5.50 entry, $10R, $20A or something.
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05-05-2014 , 10:58 PM
WTF? I thought Merge agreed to lower late-reg times?


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05-05-2014 , 11:00 PM
^^ If I have to endure 35 more hours of these regs firing bullet after bullet after bullet, I'm liable to take a bullet myself. To my brain.

Kidding, of course.
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05-05-2014 , 11:56 PM
Kahn, would you do me a favor and relay a message to Carbon for me?

Spoiler:
SHOVE YOUR TABLE RESTRICTION UP YOUR F* A*


thanks.
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05-05-2014 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawNone
wow im kinda pissed i didnt play that. $5 got you 2000 chips, then $1 got you 2000 chips lol. that had to have been a mistake no?

EDIT yeah some1 made a few thousand $$$ screw up. none of the other rebuy tournies have that structure, and #50 is an identical tournament with $5 re buys.
Actually, I looked a little bit earlier and all of the +R tournies had $1 rebuys and addons, regardless of initial buy-in. They fixed it within the past hour or so, unfortunately.
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05-06-2014 , 12:00 AM
when a fish says, 'LOLRIGGED' now.. i kinda have to agree with him.
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05-06-2014 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mindgame247
WTF? I thought Merge agreed to lower late-reg times?


They did, but their special tournaments are still 3 hours, which is fine imo because there is so many people. I was a victim of the all in any 2 with 1 minute to go though
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05-06-2014 , 06:26 AM
How can Merge set the maximum rake at 5$ each pot?!?! This rake is unbeatable!

200NL players now pay a rake of about 9bb / 100 hands... I've stopped playing there the day they changed the rake structure.

I used to play there a lot, but now with the current rake limit at 5$ and the terrible vip club there'se no reason for any player at any stake to play NLH at Merge anymore.
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05-06-2014 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hasupt
How can Merge set the maximum rake at 5$ each pot?!?! This rake is unbeatable!

200NL players now pay a rake of about 9bb / 100 hands... I've stopped playing there the day they changed the rake structure.

I used to play there a lot, but now with the current rake limit at 5$ and the terrible vip club there'se no reason for any player at any stake to play NLH at Merge anymore.
Wow, good eyes. After the 1st of May, I have played 3,015 hands of 100 nl 6-max while paying $263.70 in rake which equates to paying 8.75 bb/100 hands in rake. I guess I will have to look for other options then. Thanks for pointing this out.
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05-06-2014 , 10:31 AM
I'm about to make my first withdrawal. I have a question about bonuses. Does requesting a withdrawal affect trying to take advantage of a reload bonus? I thought I had read somewhere it did. Like you either can't make a withdrawal if you have a reload bonus going OR you can't take advantage of a reload bonus if you have a withdrawal pending. Are either of those true?
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05-06-2014 , 10:49 AM
Once you make a withdrawal, any active bonus you have expires. And yes, you can't take advantage of a reload bonus with a pending withdrawal (you can't deposit at all)
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