I'm up $500 playing cards on Bovada. I'm just not up $500 playing poker on Bovada.

They should come up with a new name for the game on Bovada...as it's not poker. Crazy to think how big this site could be if they didn't mess it all up with the anonymous player pools. Poor business decision on their part.

What has changed in the software update? I don't notice anything.

The tournaments stopped working.

The site being anonymous encourages fish to play and makes it harder for weaker regs to bum hunt, which is good for the games. So I'm good with it.

That's just a theory. There is no conclusive proof of that. It's just a groundless slogan promoted by Bovada CEO to endorse these asinine policies.

I think it makes it harder for fish to play poker. I don't see how it wouldn't. Fish have a hard enough time playing against opponents they can see. This system just makes it even easier for regulars to win money from fish. Regular winning players have the skills to recognize betting patterns and capitalize on them without the use of HUDS and data mining. That's why they're winning players.

Making it anonymous just made it easier for sharks to hide behind anonymity, imo. It's all pretty comedic. Before, a fish could see who the regulars were and stay away from them if they chose to do so. Now...forget about it. Good job on hiding the sharks from everyone Bovada. I'm sure they don't mind in the least. You may have taken away their HUDS and trackers, hidden the fish from the sharks, but you hid the sharks from the fish in the process. Which, may be more deadly.


All it takes for a shark to find a fish is a few orbits around the table. You know...the way poker players have done it for decades. Is the Bovada CEO clueless to this fact? Does he think poker was invented after the internet? The dominance of sharks in poker is as inevitable as death and taxes. I'm pretty sure Doyle and Amarillo weren't using trackers back in the day. I'm also pretty sure that most winning online players aren't, either. Yet, this policy entirely revolves around the presumption that most winning online players using trackers and are only sharks because of it. That kind of false presumption displays a fundamental lack of understanding of the game of poker and what it requires to be successful.

P.S. How many winning players from regular player pools in the past have actually seen a decrease in profits with these anonymous player pools? I'll bet not a single one and some of them may even report an increase. Hmmmm.

And, since when does a shark need a tracker to win money from a fish? Trackers are typically used by sharks to profile other regular sharks that they play on a regular basis and expose weaknesses in their game. They aren't used to profile fish who expose themselves with their poor play live at the table.

Recognizing betting patterns quickly is very valuable, but its nothing compared to having accurate notes and stats about a player, and being able to search for and immediately play against that player anywhere they go on a site.

The skills that you mention make knowing the fish MORE valuable to the regs. Any value they lose goes immediately to others.

What "players" are you talking about, though? Fish, or sharks who you play regularly?

You don't need those stats and notes for fish and you know it. When, you're playing against a regular who is a good player then those stats and notes become much more valuable, but if somebody needs stats and notes for fish then they're playing the wrong game. I don't think stats and notes have ever been used to take money from fish.


If this policy actually is effective then there would be a way to quantify it...show me stats of a "fish" who has increased in profitability and a "shark" who has decreased in profitability. Otherwise, it's all just hypothetical nonsense.

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Uh, oh.

I upset one of the sharks who loves capitalizing on the anon-player pools.

lulz

It's a theory that's impossible to prove because you can't track the players. But I tend to believe in this theory based on copious experience. On Bovada you basically have horrible players and expert players and very little in between. The rakeback grinder is a thing of the past, and poker is better for it.

This would not be a good business plan for Bovada. Anyone running a poker site wants lots of net depositors and few withdrawing. Leveling the playing field with anonymous poker has aided in this. Bovada wishes everyone could be of the exact same skill, so that the only entity that wins is the rake. It appears they have achieved this inversely by attracting the extreme ends of the spectrum but denying the rest.

The one thing I think everybody can agree on is Bovada has been incredibly successful over the past few years. They're doing something right.

This is completely false.

Nice troll. Guess I fell for it. gg

What does that have to do with anon-player pools?



Yea. It worked out horribly for Pokerstars. lulz

Are you serious, guy?

You just said yourself that it can't be tracked. So, that's not exactly true at all. Hypothetically, it's true, but you just said it can't be quantified. So, stop saying it's true.



How do you know they achieved this when you just said none of it is tracked?

It has nothing to do with anonymous player pools.

People come for the fastest cash outs available to Americans and superior MTT selection and larger player pool. Nothing more. If Merge shipped checks in a few days as opposed to a few weeks they would be number one. As most players prefer to see their opponent's name. They're just willing to sacrifice identity to get their $$$$$$ faster.

No, it isn't.

You don't need poker trackers and notes for fish. Give me a break. The fast majority of internet sharks never touch a tracker. There is no need to. Just as there was no need for Doyle to do it 30 years ago.



It's not a troll. I just don't understand the need of poker trackers for fish. I guess it's because I've never needed/used a HUD to win money playing internet poker with a fish.

Do you guys really use that stuff for bad players? I honestly thought HUD users used them primarily for opponents of higher skill levels.

If you don't know how huds are used, perhaps you shouldn't comment on them.

I don't need to know in the context of this discussion. Most winning players don't use them. Never have and never will. It's such a small percentage of players that use them that it's illogical to think that setting a policy in response to their use will effect the "poker ecosystem" as the Bovada CEO put it.

FISH ARE GOING TO LOSE TO THEIR MONEY NO MATTER WHAT.

The only thing anonymous tables prevents is a fish losing his money to regular sharks who use HUDs as opposed to losing it to recreational sharks who don't. One way, or the other that money is leaving that fish's account. The difference now is that money is going to a recreational shark who will cash out now and not play on the site for months. As opposed to a regular shark who will stay on the site all year.

Good job. Way to keep that money in the system Bovada. Prevent regular sharks from taking it and allow recreational sharks to cash it all out instead. That's basically all the policy has effectively accomplished. For all you know, it's done precisely the opposite of what it was intended to accomplish.

Does Bovada play in Washington State?

I just hate trying to figure out which players at the table saw the bluff I made 10 hands prior because half of them got up and left the table after doing it and I didn't see which ones because I was busy on another table when they left the table and the seat was quickly filled. So, now I'm stuck thinking this guy in seat #2 was the guy I bluffed before when it's someone totally different.

I shouldn't have to sit there and play a guessing game on the identity of my opponents like that. That's not poker. That's a scenario that only exist on Bovada.


The solution on Bovada...just play ABC ultra-NIT aggressive and don't bluff.

WPN and Merge=No Limit Texas Holdem

Bovada= Nit Limit Texas Holdem

There you go...I came up with a name for the card game on Bovada. lulz

Recreational sharks

Dsl25, please don't take this the wrong way, but stop typing. With every new post you are just showing how little you know. If you are frustrated by Bovada it is understandable, poker is a frustrating game.

Try deflating your ego a little and reading some strat threads. Everything you need to become a winning player on Bovada is in this Forum.

Good luck on your journey in poker! It may be hard at first, but give it time. All of this nonsense will be understandable someday. Just don't give up!! If you stick with poker and get better you can someday come back to this thread and laugh at all of the ignorant **** you posted.

Hi, I was wondering if you need to claim the royal flush within 48 hours to get the promotion to work. I got my royal about two weeks ago and I didnt know there was a promo for it.

I'm up $500 on Bovada. I don't consider myself to be up $500 playing "poker," though. This isn't poker.

It's No Limit Bovada Holdem. No Limit Texas Holdem contains elements that are non existent here on Bovada. Please don't disgrace my home state by calling the game you guys play Texas Holdem. It's an abomination. I'll let the people of Omaha speak for themselves. lol

Check Requested 1/21

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Ok, HUD boy. The irony of a system designed to element the use of HUDs and sharking. I'll bet the first thing I would read in the "strat threads" for winning on Bovada is "get yourself a HUD." LULZZZZZZZZ!

:Good luck in your journey with the weak troll post.

self acclaimed poker god plays 10nl or 25nl.

Sorry to interrupt all the **** talking, but,

Is Bovada still covering the initial deposit fee(s) if it's over a certain amount? 300$?

No, they're not. Or at least not for me.


A question of my own: Has anyone every found a solution for this problem? The MTT ticket and Hand History screens being all jacked up?

https://imgur.com/a/4D8pJ#UIZN5yl

No, it was 100NL and one of the Mad Monday final tables. Just checking out the site to see if I could stomach the anonymous player pools. It's fine for the MTT's when there are identifiable player numbers, but the cash games are a circus.

I guess Merge is the place for me. Cash outs are gonna suck, but at least I'll actually be able to play some poker.