Like I said, I withdrew max checks weekly for almost 6 months before they ever made me verify. There is no reason for anyone to get bent out of shape when they are asked to like the OP asking about it was, it's standard on every poker site that's ever existed afaik.

I've never had to do this on bovada. And withdraw regularly.

Maybe it has something to do with your deposit method? Have the guys who haven't had to send in documents only deposited with WU maybe?

I deposited via debit card.

Impressive. What games/stakes do you play?

Agreed. Funnily enough I'm hearing that on the NJ sites, you don't even need to verify yourself IF your Neteller works out, but I'm not sure about the validity of that statement.

Neteler makes you verify, so maybe not. I've played both NJ and NV and had to verify with every site before I could cash out.

After depositing, I played a 3+.30 MTT, which I won about 300 dollars in.

Grinded MTTs with a 1% buy in rule after that, turning it into just over 1K in a couple months. From there I just kept grinding MTTs and started throwing in low stakes PLO8. I also won some on a casino bonus, so was sitting just under 2K to start 2014.

Most (actually all now that I ran horrible for the past 30ish days on Bovada) of my profit on Bovada in 2014, I'll admit, is because I ran very good on a couple couple of casino bonuses. (I made 4K in like an hour one day, which was nice.) Being in NJ, I can't deposit anymore so I'm using strict BRM and while I was playing 33-44 tournaments regularly prior to a couple weeks ago, I'm going to have to move down significantly right now. I try to be very honest about how I'm playing and I feel that most of my play over the last month has been solid, just that I ran really bad in key spots that you have to win to have a good month in MTT play. I also played too many satellites to SMPO events, which wasn't disciplined but not really disastrous by any means. Anyway, I only have like 1.6K left on Bovada and being that I can't deposit anymore I'm going to have to move down to 16.5 MTTs and less, specifically the most valuable ones of the day. (Ya that really sucks, considering. I was also playing a ton of .5/1 PLO8, which is temporarily out of the question.)

IMO, I am +EV but my results being so positive isn't as impressive when you realize that I took high variance bets that paid off a couple of times. If I didn't get so lucky, I'd have nowhere near this level of profit.

I did a similar thing on WPN, but only poker there. (200 deposit in August last year. Started by grinding 2-3 dollar MTTs and moved up slowly.) You can regularly spot me playing any touranments buy in up to 50+5 regularly and sometimes throwing in the 100+9. I stay away from cash, because I'm a loser in those games, but I sometimes play PLO8 there. I personally think that's more impressive, being that it takes more effort to be a winning poker player than it takes to find advantage plays and run far above EV on them. If that makes sense.



On a side note, there's nothing more fun than getting dealt a Straight Flush Pat in All American Poker. Not holding my breath waiting for that to happen again, ever.

But basically in order to have ROI like I have, you have to focus and work hard. Practice a lot. But most importantly, run good where it counts. I'm far above EV and I know that, and had I not run good at key spots in the beginning I would have ended up depositing more than once on each site.

It's all about hard work, for sure. I've played so much in the past couple months, that I'm finally realizing I needed to take a few days away from the grind. I think that it's important to be insanely driven, but that it's also important to recongize when you need a break from the grind. That's me right now.

Oh yeah, of course they make you verify at some point. I live in NJ, but haven't put much volume onto their sites. That is probably going to change soon, though, so I've been looking into it a little bit.


I really wish UP had more traffic, they seem to deserve it. I'm gonna give them some play, but I obviously can't give up Bovada and WPN with NJ's traffic being what it is.

UP is awful, the only 2 worth playing in NJ are WSOP and Party/Borgata.

You really think so? I've played Borgata for a short while after placing in one of there earlier freerolls, and I thought it was OK, but that the tournament fees were high.

WSOP seems solid enough software wise, but I'm on a "boycott" of them because of the way they've handled a bunch of stuff. I put that in quotes, because I'd play if they convinced me to.

I've never played UP before so I have no idea if it's that bad. They are offering 100% rakeback on cash games now, so I figure I can try it out despite not being a winning cash player online usually. The rakeback should break me into profitting, I think (haha.)

My problem is basically that Party/WSOP have terrible customer service from what I can tell. The thread about collusion and WSOPBill's arrogance have left me with a bad taste.

I'll give them a shot now, but I think when it comes down to it most of my play is going to stay on WPN and Bovada. Eventually I'll move some over to Party/Borgata and UP. Maybe WSOP if they make some changes (lol they aren't going to fire Bill. If they do I'll sign up pretty fast.)

They are offering 100% RB because they are awful. The software sucks and there is no traffic. Obviously you're going to get better volume on Bovada, but the games were really good. Bare in mind I was there during a tournament series at the Borg so that may have skewed the games.

True. When I was playing for a little while (Borgata) after that freeroll in which I cashed I did notice the games were very soft, and I was probably the best player at most of the 5nl and 10nl cash tables I played at, despite (lol I've said this like 10 times today) not being a strong cash games player.

I don't have anything left on there, and I haven't deposited yet, just messed around with whatever freeroll money I had.

I'm gonna have to try UP's software and judge for myself, but I'm inclined to believe you since you're saying it so bluntly. If it's that bad then I won't even bother depositing there. Also I didn't mean to imply that I wouldn't every play WSOP.com if Bill keeps his job. Such one minded thinking is absurd, but I'll just say that I'd have to have a good reason to motivate me to play there under current management.

Nothing really beats Bovada for MTT schedule and cash games, that's for sure.

did Bovada remove HUSNGs? I dont see any available

Good God Bovada is infested with short stackers. The typical table has 3 people at 6-max with less than 40 bb stack!!!!!!

Check if you have the hide heads up button checked.

For those who have played on partypoker NJ, how are the games compared to bovada? Just out of curiosity, I live in CA.

Those are the fish.... (most of the time)

Bovada has 14x the traffic so they don't really compare. When I played the few games they had were good, but not much if any better than Bovada is. Now, if your state gets regulated the sites will potentially be bigger than Bovada (or at least the top ones will be comparable) so there is a good chance games will be much better.

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A Cali only site won't have as much traffic as the bv

We tried to get Bovada to change it to a 50 bb minimum but too many people in this thread were against it, so Bovada kept it as is.

The bv caters to casual players .. They won't make a table minimum like that

And u can probably get 2 of them to commit on the flop

One guy w tpbk

The other chasing some runner runner st8

Easy money

Gl

The state of CA is as large as many countries, if it's not bigger than BV it can come very close. I think CA has 38 million people or something like that? Not to mention Bovada would instantly shrink the moment the CA sites went live. Who are we kidding though, the Indians are too stupid to come together and get something done.

Edit: Sweden has 9 million people and their site averages 500 cash players, Bovada averages 1,400.

Not saying you're wrong, but fyou can't just directly compare the two (Cali and Sweden.)

But I hope you're right, because I hope that CA, NV, NJ, PA and NY all get this done and pool together within a year or two. Honestly, once CA and the North East pool together, I think that's about enough liquidity to have a good schedule going, maybe even among a few competitors. Obviously any pooling's also going to include NV and any other smaller population states that want in and can manage it. The logistics aren't so complicated that it'd take years, but politics on these things tends to be slow. Let's hope it goes faster this time.