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03-21-2016 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PJB608
Ok ... made a HUGE breakthrough on identifying the lag source and a temp fix: The cause of the lag is almost entirely the crummy lobby structure ... it's running some 30-50% of your PCU trying to update all the tables that are running, # of players, avg. pot %s, etc.

Anyway, the key to getting rid of the lag is to get your 4 tables running, then switch lobby to the casino games tab (where there aren't nearly as many update inquiries by the lobby jamming your PCU.) Soooo relieved I found this out. Can actually play poker like a real human being now.
why is mine cured by simply reinstalling the software daily?
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03-21-2016 , 09:26 AM
Anyone have issues with the mobile poker site? Can't see the flop turn or river cards when playing. Making it kinda hard to play.

Strangely in a 10 hand sample I am way above EV with this problem.
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03-21-2016 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
You get vff free if you have that option. You wont get checks free too if you have free vffs. If you dont use or have the vff option, checks are free.
Do you, or anyone, know how to get VFFs as an option? I only have check and wire, wouldn't mind trying this VFF now that my bank has increased the foreign check fee.
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03-21-2016 , 01:25 PM
If you've ever deposited using a visa branded card it should show up as an option to withdrawal via vff. With that said, I'm 99 % sure they won't do it to a visa netspend prepaid, etc.
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03-21-2016 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PJB608
Ok ... made a HUGE breakthrough on identifying the lag source and a temp fix: The cause of the lag is almost entirely the crummy lobby structure ... it's running some 30-50% of your PCU trying to update all the tables that are running, # of players, avg. pot %s, etc.

Anyway, the key to getting rid of the lag is to get your 4 tables running, then switch lobby to the casino games tab (where there aren't nearly as many update inquiries by the lobby jamming your PCU.) Soooo relieved I found this out. Can actually play poker like a real human being now.
THANK YOU, SWEET JESUS!
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03-21-2016 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
If you've ever deposited using a visa branded card it should show up as an option to withdrawal via vff. With that said, I'm 99 % sure they won't do it to a visa netspend prepaid, etc.
That's what I thought, I have never used a debit card to deposit. Do you know if there is a minimum that would allow me to get VFF, for example if I just deposit $50 would that unlock it? Don't really want to deposit a lot and get charged 5% just to get VFF.
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03-21-2016 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
That's what I thought, I have never used a debit card to deposit. Do you know if there is a minimum that would allow me to get VFF, for example if I just deposit $50 would that unlock it? Don't really want to deposit a lot and get charged 5% just to get VFF.

You can deposit the minimum and as long as the card is eligible the option should pop up in a day or two.
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03-21-2016 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemaco
That's what I thought, I have never used a debit card to deposit. Do you know if there is a minimum that would allow me to get VFF, for example if I just deposit $50 would that unlock it? Don't really want to deposit a lot and get charged 5% just to get VFF.
edit - I answered too slowly. The above poster is correct. I plopped in 20 dollars if I recall.

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03-21-2016 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PJB608
Ok ... made a HUGE breakthrough on identifying the lag source and a temp fix: The cause of the lag is almost entirely the crummy lobby structure ... it's running some 30-50% of your PCU trying to update all the tables that are running, # of players, avg. pot %s, etc.

Anyway, the key to getting rid of the lag is to get your 4 tables running, then switch lobby to the casino games tab (where there aren't nearly as many update inquiries by the lobby jamming your PCU.) Soooo relieved I found this out. Can actually play poker like a real human being now.
Wanted to say this also fixed my lag issues. It's strange how it can go from terribly laggy to running like butter after switching it to casino. Thanks for the tip!
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03-21-2016 , 04:04 PM
Is anyone else having issues with the software automatically posting first hand you sit at table? The worst part is that after it posts for you it makes you then sit back out until you are in the big blind. Has happened to be several times now. Pretty annoying to have to pay 1bb to play just one hand.
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03-21-2016 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dfinch
Is anyone else having issues with the software automatically posting first hand you sit at table? The worst part is that after it posts for you it makes you then sit back out until you are in the big blind. Has happened to be several times now. Pretty annoying to have to pay 1bb to play just one hand.
It does happen, but not often for me and it doesn't make me sit out after that.
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03-21-2016 , 04:13 PM
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Why would that expiration date be in the active bonuses page then? Just figured that's what it meant. Especially since I already deposited and activated it. When do I have til to clear it? Forever? Guess I can ask Bovada.
You have 6 months to clear the bonus. At exactly 6 months, the computer will cancel any remaining bonus amount. The lock amount is the amount of your balance that you cannot withdraw until you either clear the bonus requirements or forfeit the bonus balance.
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03-21-2016 , 05:20 PM
Hey I just made a 500 dollars even deposit to get a bonus. The payment processer seems to be in China. My bank called and left a message for me to call back. What's the standard response here? Also, I've received several max VFF's. If they ask about those, what do I say?
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03-21-2016 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by indio
You have 6 months to clear the bonus. At exactly 6 months, the computer will cancel any remaining bonus amount. The lock amount is the amount of your balance that you cannot withdraw until you either clear the bonus requirements or forfeit the bonus balance.

Then what is that expiration date for? It's just confusing because it's my active bonus page...after I've already deposited. If that expiration date was on the home page or something and I had til then to deposit to take advantage of the bonus that would be understandable.
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03-21-2016 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by yukoncpa
Hey I just made a 500 dollars even deposit to get a bonus. The payment processer seems to be in China. My bank called and left a message for me to call back. What's the standard response here? Also, I've received several max VFF's. If they ask about those, what do I say?

Tell them you authorized the payment. It's probably their fraud department making sure your card isn't stolen. Tell them you made a purchase overseas. That's all I would tell them. If they give you **** or ask the source, I would tell them none of their business, or explain that you bought a mass quantity of dildos or something. I'm sure they'll hang up and let you go on with your business.
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03-21-2016 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
Tell them you authorized the payment. It's probably their fraud department making sure your card isn't stolen. Tell them you made a purchase overseas. That's all I would tell them. If they give you **** or ask the source, I would tell them none of their business, or explain that you bought a mass quantity of dildos or something. I'm sure they'll hang up and let you go on with your business.
Ha Ha! But thanks. This is what I'll do. ( probably not the dildo thing, but I like it. )
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03-21-2016 , 05:45 PM
But seriously your best bet is just saying you authorized the purchase and if they ask what it is then just say you bought some cheap Xboxes or something from some dude in China lol
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03-21-2016 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Musk
I've been getting charged ~8% instead of the 4.9% they claim on a card that does not charge foreign transaction fees. I've called to discuss this, and they don't give a damn but let me know if you can get a refund or correct the situation.
This post is mean for anybody who has a no foreign transaction fee credit card and has been charged more than the card deposit fee shown in the cashier. I meant to make a post about this a long time ago, but totally forgot about it until if affected me again when making another deposit in order to take advantage of an offered bonus. Here's what i believe to be happening:



Dynamic Currency Conversion. Here are 2 articles describing the process:

1. http://www.doctorofcredit.com/dynami...y-to-avoid-it/

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynami...ncy_conversion


What's happening is that when we deposit, Bovada is essentially making a purchase in USD through a 3rd party processor (with our credit card) and then the 3rd party processor is setting an inaccurate exchange rate in their local currency before processing the transaction. The last 4 deposits that I've made have all been for $1500 ($1429 after their 4.9% visa fee) and in the first case i was overcharged an additional $46, on the 2nd transaction i was overcharged $37, on the 3rd i was overcharged $51 this final transaction i was overcharged $45.

The only way to correct this is for bovada to be aware of current exchange rates and to request the transaction in the local currency of the merchant, not USD. With Bovada's current system of charging all cards in USD no matter the location of the merchant, the merchants/processors are able to skim additional money off of each transaction into their pockets by setting an inaccurate exchange rate at the expense of the customer. I emailed Bovada about this months ago.
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03-21-2016 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
But seriously your best bet is just saying you authorized the purchase and if they ask what it is then just say you bought some cheap Xboxes or something from some dude in China lol
It was a robo call from the fraud department asking me to press one if I authorized a purchase from an auto parts store for 551. I clicked one for yes and that was that.
51 dollars in fees for a 100 bonus is a bit much. I'm going to have to do the bitcoin route in the future.
edit - Bovada indicated to me that they were going to charge something like 30 dollars in fees. Is it normal for a payment processor to tack on an extra 20 dollars?
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03-21-2016 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by yukoncpa
It was a robo call from the fraud department asking me to press one if I authorized a purchase from an auto parts store for 551. I clicked one for yes and that was that.
51 dollars in fees for a 100 bonus is a bit much. I'm going to have to do the bitcoin route in the future.
edit - Bovada indicated to me that they were going to charge something like 30 dollars in fees. Is it normal for a payment processor to tack on an extra 20 dollars?
Ok this transaction went down oddly but it now makes more sense. Upon contacting Bovada about my 500 dollar deposit, my bank was charged 550 dollars, Bovada put 524.50 into my account and subtracted 24.50 for fees on a separate transaction. So it all worked out to a total charge to me of 24.50.
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03-21-2016 , 08:41 PM
New York player here. I have had my account for over 10 years at this point. About 2 years ago, I realized I had a few bucks on there and have been using the account. The catch is being that NY is a restricted state, I cant deposit on my account, only withdraw ( which I have done numerous times, always using the rapid transfer option). But now, they have made the maximum withdrawal $300 per month. That's it. Only using rapid transfer, not even checks- they are not giving me any other options.
I explained that it would take years to withdraw my money then if I wanted to withdraw it all. She said she "was a player too, and understands my problem, but their is nothing we can do because of the restrictions placed by the United States".
I even asked what would happen if I won 30K on a sunday, how would I get paid? She said I shouldn't even be playing poker because NY is a banned state. ( WTF )
I hung up at that point. It basically sounds like they are phasing me out, which is a shame. I have over 21k points in my account, so its not like I don't earn them rake.
I would like to know if anyone out there has gone through/is going through something like this with them. Any advice would be appreciated.
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03-21-2016 , 09:16 PM
Check and see if you have a bitcoin deposit option, which would be a brand new thing. If not, maybe call them and ask if this option is possible for you. If bitcoin deposits are possible then in the near future we'll likely also have bitcoin as a withdrawal method.
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03-21-2016 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by yukoncpa
Check and see if you have a bitcoin deposit option, which would be a brand new thing. If not, maybe call them and ask if this option is possible for you. If bitcoin deposits are possible then in the near future we'll likely also have bitcoin as a withdrawal method.
Yea, I asked them about bitcoin and they said that its not an option for me at this time. Hopefully one day it will be, but I have a feeling they are just trying to screw me over and not have to deal with a NY player anymore
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03-22-2016 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AUGUY55
If that expiration date was on the home page or something and I had til then to deposit to take advantage of the bonus that would be understandable.
It is on the home page. The offer just got pasted into your bonus section verbatim after you accepted it. I can read the same thing in my bonus offer section, well I could, up until March 21, 2016 11:59p ET when the offer expired and was removed from the page.

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Originally Posted by BovadaOrBust
...but I have a feeling they are just trying to screw me over and not have to deal with a NY player anymore
I doubt they conspired to screw you over but them not wanting to go out of the way to deal with New York players anymore would not seem out of the question unfortunately.

Last edited by 5thStreetHog; 03-22-2016 at 12:27 AM.
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03-22-2016 , 01:48 AM
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Yea, I asked them about bitcoin and they said that its not an option for me at this time. Hopefully one day it will be, but I have a feeling they are just trying to screw me over and not have to deal with a NY player anymore
They can probably only do small bank transactions and still fly under the radar in NY. It sounds like bitcoin withdrawals will be made an option at some point. I'd bet that you'll be able to withdraw your money in the not too distant future.
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