Yeah b/c locking ppl in jail is the job of every citizen. So tell me, why didn't your euro buddies all pile in and stop that robbery rather than waiting on the police?

Oh wait, they were all unarmed and defenseless.

not really sure what you're saying but read again please

You are ignorant to American politics then. Research how things really work here. Hint: follow the money.

who authorized the tarding up of tihs epic thread!

I am actually surprised it took NVG this long to go full ******.

Ok, got it now, might wanna put it in one post next time,

anyway, it is the job of society to grant safety to citizens, in this case the job of the Hotel. If civilians all would feel AND take matter to their own hands it's just plain wrong.

Instead of spending money on weapons you should pay more taxes to improve law enforcement, anyway that's just how I see it I'm sure many people agree with me

I dont even know what to say. How ******ed are you?

How could the hotel provide better safety for their patrons?

Dude, the government disarmed the Jews. Quoting wikipedia:

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

And it's alway the government that the naive and dangerous peace activists rely upon to disarm the citizens. Sometimes the government is benign, and the disarmed citizens are only preyed upon by criminals, and sometimes the government is murderous, and the disarmed citizens are killed by the hundreds of thousands.

police can have guns, civilians can't period

Police force in Europe can also have guns you know?
The discussion is about civilians having guns

Goddamn you are stupid. You have any clue about USA other than some BS you saw in Euroland? You have any idea why we have a drug war? Like I said before follow the money.

yeah but you forget the government was unauthorized.
+ You forget if government becomes unauthorized power, it will find a way to unarm citizens anyway through spreading lies or gore..

I mean Ppl get so manipulated in America by the media/ the administration, they even was made to believe Iraq had mass destruction weapons as a time in Europe we all knew that it was not a fact and USA was misleading his citizenz on purpose to justify intervention..

I mean if it is so easy to establish a dogma in the US... what do you think your private armory will help.. nothing cause you will be made to believe whats not in your interest anyway... same happened in Nazi Germany.

In Euroland when someone invades your home, armed or not, you have the right to lay down and take it in the ass while praying the invaders choose not to kill you on their way out. In USA when someone invades your home you have the right to go the euro way or to use lethal force to protect yourself. I'd rather have the option than to not have it at all.

Not ******ed enough to degenerate into a name calling hissy fit. I am simply pointing out to you the millions of defenseless people slaughterd by governments, rebels and criminals who had guns. All the victims were represented by naive and dangerous peace activists including Neville Chamberlain, Norman Mailer and others who continued to live in peace and prosperity, receiving accolades from their peers, despite their failure to protect the innocent. It always seems to work out that way.

And not giving that option to people may show better results, as seen in this case.

If you want to allow your government to start limiting your options to protect your own home when inside your own home then go ahead but I doubt very many Americans will be lining up in approval for it here.

no one asked americans for approval in this case...

Maybe because they have one policeman for every 60 residents.

I wonder if you still can leave your money visible inside your open car, like Jeremy Clarkson did maybe a decade ago.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7357279363711#

In Euroland home invasions almost never end bloody, there is no risk of being killed.

You are comparing apples with oranges. How Nazi-Germany has anything to do with this exceeds my imagination...

This thread show the level of ******ation of the average american

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
imo

Wow! I didn't check this thread for awhile and some 20something euros, with highly limited historical study, minimal logic, and a whole lot of bigotry have tarded up this thread. Yeah we get it. You hate Americans and America. They must be all that is wrong in the world. You, and you alone, have solved civilization.

You go ahead and enjoy your lands where criminals' rights are far more important than their victims rights. That seems to be your great Dogma.

On second thought, I am ******ed enough to participate in the hi-jacking of this thread and further the discussion of gun law. I sincerely regret this action and apologize to all who are here to follow the OP's topic.