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Thread derailing about european v american views on gun control, etc from EPT Berlin robbery Thread derailing about european v american views on gun control, etc from EPT Berlin robbery

03-07-2010 , 10:04 AM
How about we speculate about the likely identity/nationality/profile of the robbers.

Someone said Albanian, just because of the red guy's shoes. Any other ideas?
03-07-2010 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
If that one brave security guard had a pistol, there would have been no escape. If all the security guards had guns, there would have been no robbery. In Texas, those fellows would have never tried it or never escaped, never lived to tell of it. If you have a big ol' sign that says, "Rob me. I'm unarmed", you are going to get robbed.
Translation:

Wenn das ein tapferer Wachmann eine Pistole hätte, wäre es kein Entrinnen mehr gewesen sein. Wenn alle Sicherheitskräfte Gewehre hatten, hätte es kein Raubüberfall gewesen sein. In Texas, diese Burschen hätte es noch nie probiert oder gar nicht entgangen, nie gelebt, um davon zu erzählen. Wenn Sie eine große ol 'sign that says, "Rob mich. Ich bin unbewaffnet", wirst du beraubt zu erhalten.
03-07-2010 , 10:30 AM
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If that one brave security guard had a pistol, there would have been no escape. If all the security guards had guns, there would have been no robbery
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't US bank security guards armed? Do US banks never get robbed?

Also: we allowed the Germans to re-arm once. Big mistake that was.
03-07-2010 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by glimmertwin
we allowed the Germans to re-arm once. Big mistake that was.
Thats your big mistake, thinking to have the right to release license to arm or not to arm. distorted reality
In this crazy world Iran can have as many a-bombs as as they want...
03-07-2010 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by glimmertwin
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't US bank security guards armed? Do US banks never get robbed?

Also: we allowed the Germans to re-arm once. Big mistake that was.
twice actually ....
also:
there was no BANK security

also:
some people in this thread need tinfoilhats...
03-07-2010 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by glimmertwin
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't US bank security guards armed? Do US banks never get robbed?

Also: we allowed the Germans to re-arm once. Big mistake that was.
They propably have the biggest army in Europe atm... So actually twice...
03-07-2010 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Frantic_
They propably have the biggest army in Europe atm... So actually twice...
no we dont (its France), but we shamefully are the second largest weapon seller in the world after the USA. I feel very shameful for this fact.
03-07-2010 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by glimmertwin
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't US bank security guards armed? Do US banks never get robbed?

Also: we allowed the Germans to re-arm once. Big mistake that was.
waited for a comment like this for the whole discussion
03-07-2010 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PlaQ
waited for a comment like this for the whole discussion
So now you have came. Right. That's what you're telling us. Right?
03-07-2010 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
If that one brave security guard had a pistol, there would have been no escape. If all the security guards had guns, there would have been no robbery. In Texas, those fellows would have never tried it or never escaped, never lived to tell of it. If you have a big ol' sign that says, "Rob me. I'm unarmed", you are going to get robbed.
in texas, these people would all be involved in a shootout. you guys think so backwards in that state wow it's incredible.
03-07-2010 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LiveNow
in texas, these people would all be involved in a shootout. you guys think so backwards in that state wow it's incredible.
Well, you are the one who is thinking illogically.
They wouldnt rob the place if the security had been armed, therefore there would have been no shootout.

Do I have to spell it out for you or can you connect the dots all by yourself ?
03-07-2010 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoichkov130
Well, you are the one who is thinking illogically.
They wouldnt rob the place if the security had been armed, therefore there would have been no shootout.

Do I have to spell it out for you or can you connect the dots all by yourself ?
Speaking of connect the dots, how many banks, armored trucks, etc are robbed in the US? It'd probably be more accurate if I asked that question in terms of "per day". Countless armored events end up robbed in the US, yet there would clearly be no robbery of this casino if the guards were armed? Awesome logic.
03-07-2010 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dire
Speaking of connect the dots, how many banks, armored trucks, etc are robbed in the US? It'd probably be more accurate if I asked that question in terms of "per day". Countless armored events end up robbed in the US, yet there would clearly be no robbery of this casino if the guards were armed? Awesome logic.
And how many more would be robbed if the guards were not armed ?
Obviously arming the security alters the risk/reward schedule of the robbers.
03-07-2010 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by checkmyriver
Now when all world economic is so bad , meybe worst i have remember , actions like this will repeat's soon think
Because money like in bank security like in big market
THIS, (quick analysis why dudes become poor , decide to commit robbery)
people suffer from exponential growth of compound interst leading to exponential growth of debts and money supply thus will cause inflaition.
That will cause hughe global poverty/ crisis and wars.
Those robberies which will increase are peanuts compared to what the world citizens will face in future when exponential growth is hitting the roof and economic imperialism is impossible anymore to maintain status quo for western countries....The committed crimes from Hitler and Stalin will look like peanuts compared to what is waiting for us in future!

people get real.. this robbery is peanuts but a result of our economic order, fruit of our unnatural monetary system dictated by artificial compound interest..
/thread.. hope you kids learned something
03-07-2010 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoichkov130
Now we all see why they used to bring the money to the WSOP final table in Binions with a pump action shot-gun.
And some of us thought that was just for show.
overprotecting playmoney and hiring armed COPS is waste of money, but i guess someone will profit from it..

not even mentioned that the FED$ is playmoney itself and totally overrated..lol..replacing playmoney with playmoney lolol
03-07-2010 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveNow
in texas, these people would all be involved in a shootout. you guys think so backwards in that state wow it's incredible.
03-07-2010 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoichkov130
Well, you are the one who is thinking illogically.
They wouldnt rob the place if the security had been armed, therefore there would have been no shootout.

Do I have to spell it out for you or can you connect the dots all by yourself ?
yes because people with guns never get robbed.
03-07-2010 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bedreviter
omg what in the world leads americans to think and behave like scumbags..
03-07-2010 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by poporella
omg what in the world leads americans to think and behave like scumbags..
Yes, only Americans act and think like scumbags. So I guess we know the nationality of the EPT-robbers then?
03-07-2010 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by poporella
omg what in the world leads americans to think and behave like scumbags..
Yes, because a sign like that in a front yard is common in the US...
03-07-2010 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
Yes, because a sign like that in a front yard is common in the US...
it is not about the sign... its about the common philosophy behind that is implied and greatly manifested in that sign.
03-07-2010 , 12:29 PM
The philosophy that people are allowed to arm themselves to protect themselves and their property? You actually think that is a terrible idea?
03-07-2010 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by poporella
omg what in the world leads americans to think and behave like scumbags..
Just because there is one sign in a yard, doesnt mean that "all americans think and behave like scumbags".

Thats just an ignorant and offensive thing to say.
And obviously you have never visited the US if you are so ignorant to write that.
03-07-2010 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bedreviter
The philosophy that people are allowed to arm themselves to protect themselves and their property? You actually think that is a terrible idea?
Yep..cause by arming and protecting yourself you show no interst to solve the roots..and that is an american administrative habbit not willing to solve and digg for the roots of sh.it
03-07-2010 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by poporella
Yep..cause by arming and protecting yourself you show no interst to solve the roots..and that is an american administrative habbit not willing to solve and digg for the roots for sh.it
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard. IF I own a gun I am not interested in making society better, just because I have increased my chance of defending myself and my family against lunatics? Crime is a reality in every society, and will never go away as long as there are humans. But you sit there and think about how you can improve mr. Bad Guy's neighborhood and school of thought while he rape your wife and take your money.

      
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