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09-23-2011 , 04:38 PM
Annie Duke at her best.
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09-23-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry
This was the exact reason given by Stephen Martin as to why action had not been taken against any of the Full Tilt pros in his QuadJacks interview -- there were just allegations against them but no decision. The pronouncements and decisions of the Standards committee have been incredibly inconsistent -- Chino, don't look at past, DiVita, look at past, FTP pros, only allegations, then suspend Chris and Howard based on only allegations. And, as Chainsaw pointed out, this one was pointless because there's no way in hell Chris or Howard was ever playing in any of the events.

Also something is amiss when being an FTP owner and director gets you suspended, but being only an owner (and thus recipient of millions is stolen player funds and owner of a company that the Government has charged with being illegal at its core) gets you a seat on the Standards committee.
Is anyone pointing these inconsistencies to them at all? are they just too embarrassed to react now? i feel like they need to go back to the drawing board and re-do their entire rules and ethics BS.
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09-23-2011 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kk405
Is anyone pointing these inconsistencies to them at all? are they just too embarrassed to react now? i feel like they need to go back to the drawing board and re-do their entire rules and ethics BS.
I know someone who pointed them out to them quite adamantly immediately after they suspended DiVita.
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09-23-2011 , 06:58 PM
And what was their reaction?
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09-23-2011 , 07:10 PM
Maybe they think it's good press to suspend/rob and ban people from their league. EPL is such a joke.
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09-24-2011 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Todd Terry
This was the exact reason given by Stephen Martin as to why action had not been taken against any of the Full Tilt pros in his QuadJacks interview -- there were just allegations against them but no decision. The pronouncements and decisions of the Standards committee have been incredibly inconsistent -- Chino, don't look at past, DiVita, look at past, FTP pros, only allegations, then suspend Chris and Howard based on only allegations. And, as Chainsaw pointed out, this one was pointless because there's no way in hell Chris or Howard was ever playing in any of the events.

Also something is amiss when being an FTP owner and director gets you suspended, but being only an owner (and thus recipient of millions is stolen player funds and owner of a company that the Government has charged with being illegal at its core) gets you a seat on the Standards committee.
I think Todd may be a better lawyer than a poker player, and he's pretty good at poker
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09-24-2011 , 01:09 PM
this thread is 100% ridiculous. are we judging who can and cannot play poker due to past criminal record? what about the guy who killed someone on a d.u.i charge? he can't play poker either? who are we to judge ppl and what has happened in their life? F*** ugly a** annie duke and her dumb poker league that will never make it. she is just as retarted as her crook brother. we don't know stories, what happend ect. pissing in public can get you on that list in some states. not to mention all the false reports of ppl accusing others of sexual acts, inuendos, or whatever. this thread makes me puke, just like the site of annie, and her stupid brother. man, poker has just gotten a bad name from those ppl. we need new ambassadors in this sport. F*** YOU ANNIE DUKE! defend yourself i dare you.
i hope you someday end up in the same place as your brother. what a good wholesome family of players you come from.
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09-24-2011 , 08:33 PM
I don´t know too much about American laws (i know that some stuff is very silly).. but i´m pretty sure that this decision its not legal (even in America).

Per example in a civilized country you can´t deny entrys to public events or public places based on rumors, criminal record. When you go to jail you pay ur debt to society... when you leave jail people can´t deny entrys to places, shopings, restaurants, public envents because ur in jail in 1982 or last month.

EPL it´s just silly and i guess that is run by people that don´t have a clue about human dignity , equality and human rights.

srry for bd english
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09-25-2011 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jukitas
I don´t know too much about American laws (i know that some stuff is very silly).. but i´m pretty sure that this decision its not legal (even in America).

Per example in a civilized country you can´t deny entrys to public events or public places based on rumors, criminal record. When you go to jail you pay ur debt to society... when you leave jail people can´t deny entrys to places, shopings, restaurants, public envents because ur in jail in 1982 or last month.

EPL it´s just silly and i guess that is run by people that don´t have a clue about human dignity , equality and human rights.

srry for bd english
A private league can set up criteria for membership.
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09-25-2011 , 04:24 AM
Juk,

They can ban anyone for pretty much any reason unless they're discriminating against a protected class.
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09-25-2011 , 08:54 AM
What are examples of protected class.
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09-25-2011 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
What are examples of protected class.
Women, blacks, gays, Muslims, union workers, etc...
Everyone except Christians...
Christians are the designated 21st century "******".
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09-25-2011 , 09:52 AM
this is 100% wrong.
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09-25-2011 , 10:14 AM
Protected classes:

Race - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
Color - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
Religion - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
National origin - Federal: Civil Rights Act of 1964
Age (40 and over) - Federal: Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
Sex - Federal: Equal Pay Act of 1963 & Civil Rights Act of 1964
Familial status (Housing, cannot discriminate for having children, exception for senior housing)
Sexual orientation (in some jurisdictions and not in others)
Gender identity (in some jurisdictions and not in others)
Disability status - Federal: Vocational Rehabilitation and Other Rehabilitation Services of 1973 & Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990
Veteran status - Federal Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974
Genetic information - Federal: Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act
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09-25-2011 , 12:25 PM
Maybe there is a equity generic principle - that closed enumeration of "protected classes" doesn't make any sense. The TUDH proclaims an open generic equity principle - for everyone and every institution - private or public.

@doublejoker "A private league can set up criteria for membership"

The problem its the motive.

So, a private place like a restaurant or a bar open to the public can set up random criteria ? vg. Based on convictions, type of persons (ugly people can´t enter , poor people can´t enter, disabled person can´t enter, etc,etc)

A private institution, like a University can set up random criteria there?! There are no limits? The limits are just a closed exhaustive list of "protected classes"?!?!

Forgetting the written laws... this decision and the motive its not fair - is a common sense principle of justice. Ppl don´t need to study laws to feel that this is a unfair decision and its silly.
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09-27-2011 , 07:19 PM
juks,

discrimination laws in western countries (uk, australia, us, etc.) typically require two things - discrimination against a protected class (typically race, religion, political view, etc.) and in a protected area (employment, accommodation, etc.).

Obviously this will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, I do not know the details in Nevada, USA, but something can be "unfair" without being "illegal".

Also, Todd Terry is impressive here and making good points, imo.
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09-27-2011 , 07:22 PM
btw, Obviously, I think the decision is unfair, I do not know (nor particularly care) whether it is illegal.

The laws set a baseline mandatory minimum for ethical conduct. Obviously, truly ethical behaviour requires exceeding the nut low minimum standard.
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09-27-2011 , 07:29 PM
So, I'm guessing his "10 day ultimatum" is up by now. What happened Mike?
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09-27-2011 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
They have been charged but not convicted.
They have not been criminally charged; they have been "sued" -- added to a civil complaint. I use scare quotes on "sued" because I'm not a lawyer and am not sure that's an accurate word when the gov't is the plaintiff.
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09-27-2011 , 11:02 PM
i think the word u are looking for is pwned
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10-03-2011 , 12:39 PM
Any resolution to this yet, or is EPL just hoping this gets quietly buried and forgotten under all the other big news?
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10-05-2011 , 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Brecher
They have not been criminally charged; they have been "sued" -- added to a civil complaint. I use scare quotes on "sued" because I'm not a lawyer and am not sure that's an accurate word when the gov't is the plaintiff.
So how is this grounds for exclusion from epl?
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10-05-2011 , 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
So how is this grounds for exclusion from epl?
It's for their own safety.
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10-06-2011 , 09:57 AM
epl showing what their true colours...
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02-09-2012 , 04:39 AM
He was paid the remaining $18500. The money came from the palms casino itself based upon a ruling from the Nevada gaming control board.
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