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Old 09-01-2014, 09:16 PM   #1
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Seminole Hardrock attempts to change payout structure in super high roller mid tournament

After a lackluster turnout of only 9 people, tournament staff announces verbally that top 2 places will pay. After 4 bustouts, and only a few hours of play officials halt the game because pokerstars is supposed to be live streaming the final table, even though tournament could have easily finished tonight. However, at this point they now tell players that top 3 will get paid, and that they had made a mistake earlier. Scott Seiver, who has a commanding chip lead, over 500k from 100k starting stack (don't think anyone else has over 200k), starts complaining and eventually gets tournament staff to go back to the original 2 places being paid. At least one person left in the field, Ryan Fees, is not happy with the decision according to his Twitter account, and I'm pretty sure the other 3 aren't thrilled either.

I can see both sides arguement, but after giving up 2.5M in overlays, you'd think they might get a 100k 9 man sit and go that they rake the **** out of right.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:54 PM   #2
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Should make for an interesting live stream tomorrow.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:54 PM   #3
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After a lackluster turnout of only 9 people, tournament staff announces verbally that top 2 places will pay. After 4 bustouts, and only a few hours of play officials halt the game because pokerstars is supposed to be live streaming the final table, even though tournament could have easily finished tonight. However, at this point they now tell players that top 3 will get paid, and that they had made a mistake earlier. Scott Seiver, who has a commanding chip lead, over 500k from 100k starting stack (don't think anyone else has over 200k), starts complaining and eventually gets tournament staff to go back to the original 2 places being paid. At least one person left in the field, Ryan Fees, is not happy with the decision according to his Twitter account, and I'm pretty sure the other 3 aren't thrilled either.

I can see both sides arguement, but after giving up 2.5M in overlays, you'd think they might get a 100k 9 man sit and go that they rake the **** out of right.
Just another sign that tournament poker on all levels is on a rapid decline.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:58 PM   #4
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Cash games declining at a faster rate IMO though
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:04 PM   #5
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lots of mad going on right now for fees on twitter (cant say i blame him) should make for a pretty good show tomorrow.

hopefully fees comes back and crushes this thing.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:08 PM   #6
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Wait: can you explain the 2.5mm in overlays part?
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:12 PM   #7
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The main event was a 10 mil gtd, but overlayed 2.5m
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:21 PM   #8
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Getting my money back on stream tomorrow. Tune in.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:23 PM   #9
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i think scott would complain regardless of chipstack (maybe he complains more if he's chipleader) but he doesnt strike me as someone who would angle this rules interpretation @ all. if he's a shortstack he's not gonna argue for 3 spots paying.

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Old 09-01-2014, 10:31 PM   #10
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GL tomorrow. Excited to watch.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:35 PM   #11
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i think scott would complain regardless of chipstack (maybe he complains more if he's chipleader) but he doesnt strike me as someone who would angle this rules interpretation @ all. if he's a shortstack he's not gonna argue for 3 spots paying.
Comically naive.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:37 PM   #12
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Op is partially incorrect. It was less than a level in between (with registration still open) when a floorman misspoke and said it was paying 2 and when registration closed and they announced it would pay 3 spots. The only person to bust in this time period was a short stack.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:41 PM   #13
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Also when the floor announced it would pay 3 at the end of play, the floor told Scott that's how it would be and he told them he would make it a public problem for them if they didn't change it to paying 2 spots. The other 4 players left as it appeared Scott had no chance of getting a ridiculous change made. Then in private conversation with the TD, Scott got them to change it to the way he wanted it giving himself approximate $70k in ICM advantage.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:49 PM   #14
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:52 PM   #15
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Op is partially incorrect. It was less than a level in between (with registration still open) when a floorman misspoke and said it was paying 2 and when registration closed and they announced it would pay 3 spots. The only person to bust in this time period was a short stack.
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Also when the floor announced it would pay 3 at the end of play, the floor told Scott that's how it would be and he told them he would make it a public problem for them if they didn't change it to paying 2 spots. The other 4 players left as it appeared Scott had no chance of getting a ridiculous change made. Then in private conversation with the TD, Scott got them to change it to the way he wanted it giving himself approximate $70k in ICM advantage.
Thank you for correcting the inaccuracies.
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Old 09-01-2014, 10:57 PM   #16
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i think scott would complain regardless of chipstack (maybe he complains more if he's chipleader) but he doesnt strike me as someone who would angle this rules interpretation @ all. if he's a shortstack he's not gonna argue for 3 spots paying.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:06 PM   #17
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i think scott would complain regardless of chipstack (maybe he complains more if he's chipleader) but he doesnt strike me as someone who would angle this rules interpretation @ all. if he's a shortstack he's not gonna argue for 3 spots paying.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:46 PM   #18
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Op is partially incorrect. It was less than a level in between (with registration still open) when a floorman misspoke and said it was paying 2 and when registration closed and they announced it would pay 3 spots. The only person to bust in this time period was a short stack.
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Also when the floor announced it would pay 3 at the end of play, the floor told Scott that's how it would be and he told them he would make it a public problem for them if they didn't change it to paying 2 spots. The other 4 players left as it appeared Scott had no chance of getting a ridiculous change made. Then in private conversation with the TD, Scott got them to change it to the way he wanted it giving himself approximate $70k in ICM advantage.
If this is true I would be very upset if I were the other players. Always thought Seiver was an arrogant arse.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:58 PM   #19
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What kind of clown show are they running anyway if they can't run a sit and go with a $1,000/player rake?
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:08 AM   #20
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What kind of clown show are they running anyway if they can't run a sit and go with a $1,000/player rake?
$2500/player in rake
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:14 AM   #21
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$2500/player in rake
And the idiots keep paying it. Lotta prestige there for a 9 player(who's got the biggest balls) rake out the ass high roller event.
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the only just outcome is for fees to win and scott to finish 3rd.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:36 AM   #23
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Wow at that rake
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:38 AM   #24
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So what is in writing? 3 or 2 get paid? How are ppl upset at Scott when they originally announced 2?
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:41 AM   #25
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Scott Seiver is approaching Negreanu-esque ability to be unbearable.
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