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Rounders: Do Hookers in Atlantic City give out comps to the noodle bar? (and other questions) Rounders: Do Hookers in Atlantic City give out comps to the noodle bar? (and other questions)

05-27-2019 , 12:51 AM
I am pretty sure that at the time Taj poker room didn't use comp cards, you had to get stamped by the floor. Also, there was no noodle bar till way later.
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05-27-2019 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
Because he said he got comped for the noodle bar.
Worm is not a reliable narrator.
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05-27-2019 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Nah it was a great movie, it was just stupid when it came to the technicalities of poker. You will see that in every movie about competitive worlds doesn't matter if it's sport, war, politics, whatever. Gotta turn that nonsense into a script that works.
+1

Movies can get "stupid" because the producers often assume the audience is stupid – at least when it comes to that particular arena.

I say it all the time, I come from the sports world, so quite often I find the portrayal of sports in movies beyond laughable. They have to create scenes for people who don't know the nuances of a given sport, so everything gets dumbed down. Thus, a great pitcher naturally strikes out every batter. A great football player can't be tackled. A great basketball player only throws down monster dunks.

On top of that, you have actors who clearly have never played the game pretending to be top athletes in that sport (e.g. Wesley Snipes in both Major League and White Men Can't Jump).

In fact, whenever the baseball fan in me sees Tim Robbins' 50 mph fastball in Bull Durham or Tom Berenger's awful hack of a swing in Major League – films that I otherwise enjoy – it makes me wonder how other movies look to aficionados of those sports, even the serious ones. e.g. how good are the rugby scenes in Invictus? How good is the hockey in Slap Shot? I don't know those sports well enough to judge but I assume the actual action looks equally awful.
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05-27-2019 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
Because he said he got comped for the noodle bar.
I specifically watched the scene again before posting and didn't hear that, but now I understand why, it was the french version and "comps" is not really translatable, so it was skipped in french.
Well, mystery remains then...
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05-27-2019 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Jones
When Mike says this to Knish in the bath house, I always get urked.

...talking about his A9 hand vs KGB AA

"I put it all on the line that's true, and you know what? It wasn't a bad beat. I wasn't unlucky. I got out played, I got out played that time."

How the F was that not a bad beat? It's nuts vs second nuts heads up, and he said he didn't get unlucky and got out played.

Great movie, but that reasoning always bothered me.
Mike was a station in that spot and he knew it. At least he had the humility to admit it.
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05-27-2019 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
+1

Movies can get "stupid" because the producers often assume the audience is stupid – at least when it comes to that particular arena.

I say it all the time, I come from the sports world, so quite often I find the portrayal of sports in movies beyond laughable. They have to create scenes for people who don't know the nuances of a given sport, so everything gets dumbed down. Thus, a great pitcher naturally strikes out every batter. A great football player can't be tackled. A great basketball player only throws down monster dunks.

On top of that, you have actors who clearly have never played the game pretending to be top athletes in that sport (e.g. Wesley Snipes in both Major League and White Men Can't Jump).

In fact, whenever the baseball fan in me sees Tim Robbins' 50 mph fastball in Bull Durham or Tom Berenger's awful hack of a swing in Major League – films that I otherwise enjoy – it makes me wonder how other movies look to aficionados of those sports, even the serious ones. e.g. how good are the rugby scenes in Invictus? How good is the hockey in Slap Shot? I don't know those sports well enough to judge but I assume the actual action looks equally awful.
Ya one thing you can clearly see has changed is hand to hand fighting in films, because MMA is so huge now you can't have Jet Li come in fighting a bunch of heavy weights with silly moves that don't work in real fighting. Just 20 years ago people accepted a lot of silly stuff in fight scenes that would never fly now just because a good percentage of the viewing public actually knows about fighting. Rounders is just like fights scenes before MMA got huge, you could get by with a lot more nonsense than you could now.

It's funny cuz it's another Damon flick but I was rewatching The Bourne Identity the other day and at the time the fighting was amazing, now it just looks like silly choreographed nonsense.
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05-27-2019 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
you can't have Jet Li come in fighting a bunch of heavy weights with silly moves that don't work in real fighting.
This would definitely work.

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05-27-2019 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
+1

Movies can get "stupid" because the producers often assume the audience is stupid – at least when it comes to that particular arena.
I think it’s more that movies have about one line or scene to establish the greatness of a player, when that greatness is actually demonstrated in real life by small advantages over long periods of time.
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05-27-2019 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
This would definitely work.

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05-28-2019 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
+1

Movies can get "stupid" because the producers often assume the audience is stupid – at least when it comes to that particular arena.

I say it all the time, I come from the sports world, so quite often I find the portrayal of sports in movies beyond laughable. They have to create scenes for people who don't know the nuances of a given sport, so everything gets dumbed down. Thus, a great pitcher naturally strikes out every batter. A great football player can't be tackled. A great basketball player only throws down monster dunks.

On top of that, you have actors who clearly have never played the game pretending to be top athletes in that sport (e.g. Wesley Snipes in both Major League and White Men Can't Jump).

In fact, whenever the baseball fan in me sees Tim Robbins' 50 mph fastball in Bull Durham or Tom Berenger's awful hack of a swing in Major League – films that I otherwise enjoy – it makes me wonder how other movies look to aficionados of those sports, even the serious ones. e.g. how good are the rugby scenes in Invictus? How good is the hockey in Slap Shot? I don't know those sports well enough to judge but I assume the actual action looks equally awful.
I often what wonder what actual police think about cop movies or shows.

Also I'm reminded of the basketball scenes in Teen Wolf (even when Scott plays has himself and not the wolf).
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05-28-2019 , 12:27 PM
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Gotta turn that nonsense into a script that works
At the very least they didn't go fully gaga with a straight flush over a full house (Cincinatti Kid) or Royal flush over straight flush over quads (Maverick). I give 'em credit for that.
The full house over bigger full house it at least something where we all can say "yeah...been there".

And english not being my first language (and only ever having watched Rounders in english) I have to ask the ultimate doofus question: What does "comped" mean?
Computer? Complimentary? From the commentary track on the DVD I infer it's some kind of device you pay with - but even that statement is ambiguous?
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05-28-2019 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

In fact, whenever the baseball fan in me sees Tim Robbins' 50 mph fastball in Bull Durham or Tom Berenger's awful hack of a swing in Major League – films that I otherwise enjoy – it makes me wonder how other movies look to aficionados of those sports, even the serious ones. e.g. how good are the rugby scenes in Invictus? How good is the hockey in Slap Shot? I don't know those sports well enough to judge but I assume the actual action looks equally awful.
As a hockey player and fan I can assure you they are equally awful. I've never seen a scene in TV or movies anywhere about actual hockey play that wasn't hilariously bad.
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05-28-2019 , 01:09 PM
Comp is short for complimentary.
Basically free food given to customers at a casino, based on past play or occasionally anticipated future play.
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05-28-2019 , 03:57 PM
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Comp is short for complimentary.
Basically free food given to customers at a casino, based on past play or occasionally anticipated future play.
Thanks. I was a bit confused on the meaning. (Casinos in my area - just accross the Czech border coming from germany - always have free food/(nonalcoholic)drink)
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05-29-2019 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by namisgr11
I loved the poker scenes in Robert Altman's film 'California Split'. But they're not of no limit Texas hold 'em.
Assume they are seven card stud?
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05-29-2019 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brocksavage1
Assume they are seven card stud?
Lowball. But other tables are playing 5 card draw and stud, too. The realistic take on California and Reno card rooms of the day (the movie was released in '74) is great nostalgia, and the main characters are true degens who play just about every game in the casino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuqLFz5Lu1w

Last edited by namisgr11; 05-29-2019 at 05:26 PM.
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05-29-2019 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravity Well
I often what wonder what actual police think about cop movies or shows.

Also I'm reminded of the basketball scenes in Teen Wolf (even when Scott plays has himself and not the wolf).
Cops think cop movies and shows are unrealistic. I have 2 friends who are cops. Biggest gripes, almost no cops show/movie holds a gun the way they do in real life, far less shootouts then one would think and nobody finds a bag of white powder and just tastes it hoping its cocaine and not anthrax. Finally most crimes are not solved within hours/days/a week but obviously TV needs to do that to make things work.

I'm a computer guy and anyone else that is cringes at some of the computer stuff we see but I suspend reality cause I know it's coming.
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05-29-2019 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 3rdCheckRaise
I am pretty sure that at the time Taj poker room didn't use comp cards, you had to get stamped by the floor. Also, there was no noodle bar till way later.
There was a noodle bar back in the Asian games area that didn't take cash. It was a funky little room that iirc didn't even take cash, just comps. That is where they were in the movie.

Once Rounders + the poker boom happened the place got all jammed up so they eventually built a bigger one off the main hallway. Thankfully the poker room cafeteria wasn't in the film so that stayed somewhat secret and survived without being too jammed up.
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05-30-2019 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Segal's Dad
seriously lol'ed

I thought it was 20/40 HORSE rotation...haha

and I thought it was Fat Grady that was sitting
I always thought it was "forced rotation" and "fat Greggy"
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05-30-2019 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
+1

In fact, whenever the baseball fan in me sees Tim Robbins' 50 mph fastball in Bull Durham or Tom Berenger's awful hack of a swing in Major League – films that I otherwise enjoy – it makes me wonder how other movies look to aficionados of those sports, even the serious ones. e.g. how good are the rugby scenes in Invictus? How good is the hockey in Slap Shot? I don't know those sports well enough to judge but I assume the actual action looks equally awful.
Have you seen "Little Big League"? Aside from the premise of the film itself (12 year-old kid names himself manager of an MLB team), most of the baseball action rang true to my untrained eye. But then, there were a ton of cameos from really big names in MLB from the '90s, and a lot of the smaller roles on the Twins' baseball team were played by semi-pro or pro ballplayers who could act a little. Worth a watch, imo, if you haven't seen it.
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05-30-2019 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Freewill2112
Have you seen "Little Big League"? Aside from the premise of the film itself (12 year-old kid names himself manager of an MLB team), most of the baseball action rang true to my untrained eye. But then, there were a ton of cameos from really big names in MLB from the '90s, and a lot of the smaller roles on the Twins' baseball team were played by semi-pro or pro ballplayers who could act a little. Worth a watch, imo, if you haven't seen it.
Never saw it but I do remember it. There were several kid-friendly MLB movies that came out around that time. I didn't like the others, so I must not have given this one a chance.

I'm on that movie's IMDB page and jeez, you're not kidding about the massive number of all-star cameos. And yes, I recognize a few of those names with actual roles. Kevin Elster was part of a string of good-field, no-hit Mets shortstops. Bull Durham was actually a pretty solid player for a few years but only seems to get remembered for a key error in the 1984 postseason.

Also, I see Tim Busfield is one of the leads. He's among a handful of actors who actually has some legit baseball skills (along with Kurt Russell, Charlie Sheen and Kevin Costner). I once worked a local baseball tourney in which he was one of the better players. Sure, he was barely above the minimum age of 35, but he was pretty solid for a guy who never really played the game at a high level. Definitely surprised people, since he was so well-known for playing nerds on the screen.

EDIT: I just now noticed that Elster was still playing when he did that movie, although it was during a span when he had dropped back down to the minors. I wonder if the Mets figured "this guy is done, let's let him do a movie."
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06-28-2019 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ThisKid$Tough
air. flushdraw on a paird board. they played limit weird back in the day.

edit: one of the more lol point in the movie is that mike sits 300/600 with 6K, 10BB and somehow isnt on empty after an hour of "playing tight, folding mostly." even if he steals the blinds once a round, this leaves him 10BB to make what would have to be a 6.5BB spew bluff aginst Chan.
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
I just watched Rounders for the umteenth time and went back at watched one scene again that didn't make sense. The betting scenes with KGB have never made sense, but when Mike is telling the story about Johnny Chan at Taj makes no sense either. He says he sits down with 6k in a 300/600 game. He describes that action as he four bets Chan, and Chan lays down. How the **** does Chan lay anything down to a 4 bet, he is getting in the range of 4-6 to 1 on a four bet? Johnny must have been playing uber tight that night he was trying to run Mike over like a tourist.
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
mike puts in the third bet, j c four bets, mike five bets, so jc is getting 10.5:1 to peel a flop and elects to fold.
I just watched Rounders for the millionth time yesterday and this scene has always bothered me. But it's not so much that Chan folds getting good odds,
cause Chan could have been making a move with no-pair and no-draw which would make his fold correct. It's the fact that a supposed great and knowledgeable player like Mike McDee would sit in a limit game with ONLY 10BB's. And not just any limit game, but a 300/600 limit game with Johnny F'ing Chan. All the other bs in the movie I can let slide, but this one is just too absurd.
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