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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-16-2011 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by clutchbeastmaster
lol wtf? sensitive much
Your response just wasn't needed thats all. Was just giving an update from someone whose still on, I didn't know a lot of US players were still on.
04-16-2011 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantsbran
At least ftp assures us that our money is secure.
WHere did u get that from?
04-16-2011 , 02:53 AM
The strange thing is that this should be good news for ~%90 of those effected. Maybe a couple % higher for those in this forum.
04-16-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by poofinger
The strange thing is that this should be good news for ~%90 of those effected. Maybe a couple % higher for those in this forum.
How should this be good news for anyone?
04-16-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville
WHere did u get that from?
When I downloaded the update, a message popped up explaining what happened. At the end it said "We assure you that your funds are safe and secure".
04-16-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkElf
Well they didn't do too good against Barry Bonds, did they?
Bonds case doesn't really apply here, where there is such obvious acts of illegal behavior. For Bonds, almost all the evidence that the prosecution collected relating to the positive drug charges was deemed unusable because Greg Anderson (the trainer) went to jail rather than cooperate. All the evidence linking Anderson and Bonds was thrown out. And Anderson decided not to cooperate after the trial started, so he screwed the prosecution and saved Bonds as best he could. The other evidence was what random witnesses claimed to have seen Bonds do, and this wasn't seen as proof enough.
Wait till Roger Clemons and Lance Armstrong come up, they won't be as lucky as Bonds.
04-16-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by poofinger
The strange thing is that this should be good news for ~%90 of those effected. Maybe a couple % higher for those in this forum.
Elaborate.
04-16-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantsbran
At least ftp assures us that our money is secure.
lool cause thats reassuring
04-16-2011 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantsbran
At least ftp assures us that our money is secure.
and who is assuring FT that the money is secure?
I wouldn't trust this for ****.
04-16-2011 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
That report came out earlier today. The sites have both since released statements that all non-us operations will continue as normal and that all funds are safe. Pokerstars steve said that funds for US players are also safe in the SNE thread.
I'd say players funds are 100% safe. But you must not know much about the US Govt. FTP & Stars won't be operating next week in non-us markets. Guaranteed. Don't doubt the insane aggression of the US Govt. To them, this is a criminal enterprise which has violated US federal law. After the trial, their assets (software, players) will probably be sold to a Nevada casino.
04-16-2011 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by poofinger
The strange thing is that this should be good news for ~%90 of those effected. Maybe a couple % higher for those in this forum.
Your a ****ing idiot.
04-16-2011 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by haleyedwards
No prob. Here's another from the WSJ:

"The charges set up a long-awaited showdown between the sites, which claim millions of U.S. players and billions in revenue, and the federal government, which has long alleged that their operations are illegal. The sites claim they do not violate federal laws pertaining to Internet gambling, in part because poker, they say, is not gambling.

Representatives for Full Tilt and PokerStars have recently indicated they might welcome a chance to prove in court that their activities do not violate federal law."

This makes me optimistic. If online poker were a CLEAR violation of UIEGA, then the indictment looks pretty damning. But that's not remotely the case, and you can bet the accused will make the "poker is not gambling" defense their main strategy. At best, there's a lot of recent evidence that high-ranking government itself (eg Frank/the House Committee) believes UIEGA is ambiguous.
I agree. It definitely gives them a chance.
04-16-2011 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tom_dwonk
"So sir it seems you played some 2NL on pokerstars in 2006... you won 10 dollars that day.. Care to explain yourself?"
Sick heater imo

also brag
04-16-2011 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by aesthetics
How should this be good news for anyone?
ppl with a gambling addiction?
04-16-2011 , 02:56 AM
im in the us. i cant download the new ft update aka cant open up the client. i am also redirected from fulltiltpoker.co.uk to fulltiltpoker.net so i cant download the client from their website. wonderful :/
04-16-2011 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by p595
Dont log out of FTP if you are logged in...
this^^
04-16-2011 , 02:56 AM
Can't wait to see what the commercials look like tonight on Poker After Dark.
04-16-2011 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
What pray tell was illegal that I was doing?
I you were doing any of the following you broke the U.S. online gaming laws.

§ 5363. Prohibition on acceptance of any financial instrument for unlawful Internet gambling
No person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling-
(1) credit, or the proceeds of credit, extended to or on behalf of such other person (including credit extended through the use of a credit card);
(2) an electronic fund transfer, or funds transmitted by or through a money transmitting business, or the proceeds of an electronic fund transfer or money transmitting service, from or on behalf of such other person;
(3) any check, draft, or similar instrument which is drawn by or on behalf of such other person and is drawn on or payable at or through any finanvial institution; or
(4) the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction, as the Secretary and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System may jointly prescribe by regulation, which involves a financial institution as a payor or financial intermediary on behalf of or for the benefit of such other person.
04-16-2011 , 02:56 AM
withdraw or keep money on?
04-16-2011 , 02:56 AM
Your money is safe... to collect no interest for a few months until you can get to it.
04-16-2011 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by aesthetics
How should this be good news for anyone?
you missed the joke/point.
04-16-2011 , 02:57 AM
"It works" is the default webpage from the Apache Web Server.

I assume they had to reconfigure their web server and ****ed up at some point, so you get that page.
04-16-2011 , 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary_Neville
Elaborate.
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Originally Posted by Giantsbran
Your a ****ing idiot.
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Originally Posted by clutchbeastmaster
ppl with a gambling addiction?
lol ding ding ding.

because less than 5% of players make money so its actually saving people money
04-16-2011 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by howarjo1943
I actually wouldn't be shocked if the DOJ actually ends up prosecuting the U.S. players a couple of years down the road since what we were doing was illegal. The FBI will eventually almost surely get their hands on all of FTP's and PS's files. Then they will find out the identities of all of the U.S. players and could then press charges... probably by sending you a letter to appear in court or eventually a knock at your door. Once in court, you can either fight the charges and likely lose leading to jail time and felony conviction, or plead guilty and pay a large fine, $1000 to $10000 or so and receive a misdemeanor. As hard up as the govt is for money right now I wouldn't be surprised. I mean really, they almost freaking shut down the govt a few days ago due to lack of funds!!!
Give me a break sir.
04-16-2011 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by howarjo1943
I you were doing any of the following you broke the U.S. online gaming laws.

§ 5363. Prohibition on acceptance of any financial instrument for unlawful Internet gambling
No person engaged in the business of betting or wagering may knowingly accept, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling-
(1) credit, or the proceeds of credit, extended to or on behalf of such other person (including credit extended through the use of a credit card);
(2) an electronic fund transfer, or funds transmitted by or through a money transmitting business, or the proceeds of an electronic fund transfer or money transmitting service, from or on behalf of such other person;
(3) any check, draft, or similar instrument which is drawn by or on behalf of such other person and is drawn on or payable at or through any finanvial institution; or
(4) the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction, as the Secretary and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System may jointly prescribe by regulation, which involves a financial institution as a payor or financial intermediary on behalf of or for the benefit of such other person.
They are not going after any of the players, your a fricken tard to think that and pretty much hopeless in life

      
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