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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-16-2011 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dudemanphat
As far as i can make out from the us gouvernment site this is not about playing online poker. It is about the shady way full tilt poker, poker stars and Cereus went about processing payment and deposits in the USA market. Apparently they have created multiple fake businesses and payed off banks to accept money to and from these fake businesses.

Its is vey unfortunate that the sites were forced to do this to overcome the laws but now that they have been caught they may be ****ed. Making it easy for the US gouvernment to create there own local sites and keep all the money for them selves.

Sorry for the spelling
They have not payed off banks, but they have used payment processors in a way that is against the law. The payment processors are the shady "right hand man" of online gambling. If DOJ can prove this is cohersed, I beleive we are looking at the end of online poker. Am surprised Partypoker is not in this idicement, but then again they have been very strict about not letting US players play.
04-16-2011 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by the muslim
YES I DO IT CALLED POST HISTORY U CHEAP IGNORINT PATHETIC 2.20 "GRINDER" LOOLLOLOLO KEEP "GRINDING" THERE BUDDY LOOLOLOL POSTING STRAT TALK ABOUT 2.20S AS IF THE REGZ IN THOSE HAVE ENUFF BRAIN CELLZ TO LOGIKALLY DEDUCE POKERS STRAT. GTFO WITH YOUR 2.20S AND KEEP GRINDING AND GFY

LONG LIVE THE ONLINE POKAR!!!!!!!!
Hmm, I didn't know making between 2-3k a month wasn't worthwhile.

You MIGHT be the biggest moron in this thread, and I'm sure anyone of any substance that would help us reading this just said "**** these guys, what a bunch of morons."

Somehow, I'm guessing you're a losing player.
04-16-2011 , 05:14 AM
I have a dual citizenship Russian/American. I don't really wanna go to Russia but the women are hot and I could probably score an easy job teaching English and maybe still play poker there. Some articles on google say that it's not legal in Russia but that a lot of people still play because they circumvented it there and I think I've seen some people post here saying they play there. Can anybody confirm?
04-16-2011 , 05:14 AM
why didnt ur U.S players go Canada ? And reg an PS id there, so u will be an Canadian player , and u can play on Ps and ftp as before. lol, what a nice suggestion
04-16-2011 , 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by apetilt
Today when I tried to login I couldn't update and didn't get to login. I downloaded the client from fulltilt.co.uk and it successfully updated, but I can only play for playmoney and can't even withdraw. Have like 3000$ bux in there.
I'm from Norway btw, any others from scandinavia who experience the same problem?

you are on the play money site, download it from fulltiltpoker.co.uk
04-16-2011 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sobizzle21
+1 on this, just became the #1 trend on the list
amazing.
that community is very very strong. there have been so many things in the past that they have rallied behind and made a difference. for example, there's been videos of people torturing animals that they've investigated, found addresses of the culprits and reported them to police. they've mass e-mailed police departments about cops who abused their power in certain instances and got them suspended/fired, gay rights, teachers unions, unfair laws, etc. etc... having a hundred thousand reddit users rally behind this cause would be AMAZING for the PPA and all of us.

it's just a matter of getting the story upvoted and getting them on board. they know how to raise hell. EVERYONE PLEASE UPVOTE...it takes 20 seconds - http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/co...nd_pokerstars/
04-16-2011 , 05:17 AM
Can't log into merge or bodog, anyone else having trouble?
04-16-2011 , 05:18 AM
bodog works for me
04-16-2011 , 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by krissper
They have not payed off banks, but they have used payment processors in a way that is against the law. The payment processors are the shady "right hand man" of online gambling. If DOJ can prove this is cohersed, I beleive we are looking at the end of online poker. Am surprised Partypoker is not in this idicement, but then again they have been very strict about not letting US players play.
You are probly right it was rough assesment. I do remember Party Poker paying just over 100million to the US gouvernment probly around a year ago which might have something to do with them being excluded in this case.
04-16-2011 , 05:19 AM
damn this sucks. These sort of things take years to resolve. It could be a long time before people get their money, if ever.

The US government is the most corrupt entity in the world. Whether you are Republican or Democrat, if you promote any legislation that allows the government to interfere with your personal life then you are partially responsible for this infringement on personal liberties and freedom. The government has no business in these affairs and unless the populace stand up and unite against a government that is increasingly getting involved in everyone's daily business, whether it be health care, online poker, diet, what we're permitted to listen to or watch, etc, then the US government will continue their abuses.

Unfortunately we're a nation that wants to be coddled and taken care of by the government. Sad day and very likely the end.
04-16-2011 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TMLMS13
omg thank you for that breaking news, i'm sure the last 2700 repliers needed to know that
np glad to help
04-16-2011 , 05:20 AM
Just won swingy heads up for $50. Underrollaments...
04-16-2011 , 05:20 AM
"Isai Scheinberg plans great exit for PokerStars
The Scheinberg family owns 75% of the online gaming company, which may be sold for $2 billion.

Tali Tsipori04/01/2006
The Scheinberg family, which controls the world’s second largest online gaming site, PokerStars, is about to make one of the largest exits, if not the largest ever, by Israeli businesspeople.

“The Times” reports that PokerStars founder Isai Scheinberg is “understood to have appointed NM Rothschild, the City merchant bank, to sell or float PokerStars at a price of more than $2 billion (£1.2 billion).”

Although a flotation of PokerStars is possible, the Scheinberg family probably prefers selling the company. “The Times” writes, “City analysts believe the huge growth in internet gambling is likely to make PokerStars attractive to both virtual and physical rivals.”

“The Times” says one potential merger partner of PokerStars is 888 Holding plc (LSE:888), the world’s largest online gambling company, controlled by the Shaked and Ben-Yitzhak families. 888 Holding declined to comment. "
04-16-2011 , 05:20 AM
anyone call the number and ask how to get the money off?
04-16-2011 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tcs
you are on the play money site, download it from fulltiltpoker.co.uk
When click on dowload below message appear

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@download.eyetxt.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache Server at download.co.uk Port 80
04-16-2011 , 05:21 AM
One thing that's pretty pretty cool is that the big games in Vegas gonna run like all the time now.
04-16-2011 , 05:22 AM
GG GAME OVER . TIME TO FOCUS ON A GAME THAT MATTERS, LIKE: SCRABBLE, CHESS, GO, OR TRIVIA
04-16-2011 , 05:23 AM
An odd thing happend to me over the last month or so. none of my deposits hit my account. but yet they where not pending on fulltilt. like 1k total and 3 deposits. I wounder if the gov was doing something with the deposits....
04-16-2011 , 05:23 AM
WWW:FULLTILTPOKER.NET
04-16-2011 , 05:24 AM
I've been following this thread from page 1 after first hearing the news on a leading Swedish newspaper, and I just wanted to chime in;

All the people who are going crazy and somehow making Barack personally responsible for this; please understand that a crime has been committed and a serious one at that. The DOJ have pages and pages with detailed information on how Bitar and Company have committed fraud among other charges. The bribery charges are very serious and they seem to have a profound understanding on how they have done it, with the proof to back it up. There will be repercussions for the people involved.

It's of course very sad that the greed of these few people affects millions of unknowing poker players around the world and especially in the US, but please don't make it out to be some sort of a crusade against the poker community. The DOJ are treating this as just as it should; major corporations have committed corporate crimes.

To all those flaunting there fancy law degrees and claims that "they have beaten DOJ attorneys in court", please stop. Even if it is true, from all the information that has been released, the DOJ has been following this for a while and has all the information they need to win this case.

I would also like to say that I don't think there is need for the people to go crazy and start panic-withdrawing all their money. It makes no difference if you withdraw them now because the payment processers are being charged and seized as well, so you are probably lucky if you receive your money, but in any case your money is likely safe, even if you won't be able to withdraw them immediately. The government won't seize the players funds', if anything they'll seize the rake that was used to commit these crimes.

Before you flame me, keep in mind that I'm not taking the DOJ's side, I have money on Stars that I can't withdraw too, but it is obvious that the people being prosecuted have committed crimes and they should be held responsible. Also, I can't believe more people aren't talking about the fact that Scott Tom STILL is in charge of AP, after all the scandals. Why are people still playing on these corrupt sites run by corrupt people?
04-16-2011 , 05:24 AM
sell pokerstars and full tilt to blizzard
04-16-2011 , 05:26 AM
Any news on sites being shutdown within 48h?
04-16-2011 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hgtenhundred
I have a dual citizenship Russian/American. I don't really wanna go to Russia but the women are hot and I could probably score an easy job teaching English and maybe still play poker there. Some articles on google say that it's not legal in Russia but that a lot of people still play because they circumvented it there and I think I've seen some people post here saying they play there. Can anybody confirm?
Currently you can play online poker in Russia. Ofline poker is illegal there. There are also Ukraine and Belarus near to Russia and speaking the same language (about a half of Ukraine and whole Belarus). Both online and offline poker is permitted in last 2 countries.
04-16-2011 , 05:26 AM
what do i do w/ 50k fpps.. seriously i know im waiting for the $ but can i just buy a couple ipod touches and hook up my nieces and nephews???
04-16-2011 , 05:27 AM
in b4 zynga rule the world of pokers

      
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