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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-16-2011 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FedorViaMastery
I've been following this thread from page 1 after first hearing the news on a leading Swedish newspaper, and I just wanted to chime in;

All the people who are going crazy and somehow making Barack personally responsible for this; please understand that a crime has been committed and a serious one at that. The DOJ have pages and pages with detailed information on how Bitar and Company have committed fraud among other charges. The bribery charges are very serious and they seem to have a profound understanding on how they have done it, with the proof to back it up. There will be repercussions for the people involved.

It's of course very sad that the greed of these few people affects millions of unknowing poker players around the world and especially in the US, but please don't make it out to be some sort of a crusade against the poker community. The DOJ are treating this as just as it should; major corporations have committed corporate crimes.

To all those flaunting there fancy law degrees and claims that "they have beaten DOJ attorneys in court", please stop. Even if it is true, from all the information that has been released, the DOJ has been following this for a while and has all the information they need to win this case.

I would also like to say that I don't think there is need for the people to go crazy and start panic-withdrawing all their money. It makes no difference if you withdraw them now because the payment processers are being charged and seized as well, so you are probably lucky if you receive your money, but in any case your money is likely safe, even if you won't be able to withdraw them immediately. The government won't seize the players funds', if anything they'll seize the rake that was used to commit these crimes.

Before you flame me, keep in mind that I'm not taking the DOJ's side, I have money on Stars that I can't withdraw too, but it is obvious that the people being prosecuted have committed crimes and they should be held responsible. Also, I can't believe more people aren't talking about the fact that Scott Tom STILL is in charge of AP, after all the scandals. Why are people still playing on these corrupt sites run by corrupt people?
+1, imo by far the most reasonable post itt so far

P.S. wasn't going to, but posting in the epic thread
04-16-2011 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wantCLEANmoney
tastless... ban this person or delete this post please
Too soon?
04-16-2011 , 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by wyvo


i get tht from stars
i've also cashed out via MB, but haven't received that message yet
04-16-2011 , 05:41 AM
breaking news... USA lanches attacks on 11 evil poker cartel Bosses... Meanwhile Obama raises taxes and bankrupts country...
04-16-2011 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wantCLEANmoney
tastless... ban this person or delete this post please
please ban this person he quoted a very tasteless pic.
04-16-2011 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by alexuuus
whats your location?
Australia, why?
04-16-2011 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hgtenhundred
Yeah, you're probably right. I jumped the wagon myself but in truth, DOJ doesn't really **** around and you have to do something pretty serious to get on its radar.

Assuming DOJ is in the right, my only concern is why they did it so suddenly on all 3 sites. Are the 3 connected? As little as I understand law, you don't really arrest 3 thieves who robbed 3 different banks and say you're all related - you arrest them individually. So I'm confused why all 3 were treated as 1.

I'm also a little concerned about the fact that DOJ did not seem to care about how the players and the players' finances would be treated. If a criminal is arrested or charged with a crime he's guilty off, why would he turn over all his cash to the bank if he's safe overseas?
Well my understanding is that the jury is still out on whether online poker is TRULY illegal in the US or not, so I think this makes this an even more complex issue. I really have no idea what the end game will be of this, but I guess the US players won't be able to withdraw or play on these sites for a while now. I feel sorry for the people that have funds tied in these sites, funds they were planning on using for rent/bills etc.
04-16-2011 , 05:42 AM
Is this going to affect people with bankrolls on each of these sites? Are we going to be the ones feeling the punishment?
04-16-2011 , 05:42 AM
try to update my FTP software and I only get error message : Could not download update

I live in Norway , Europe , I am not a US citizen so whats the problem? I need to cash out!

fulltiltpoker.co.uk site is up and running.
pokerstars.eu is fine
04-16-2011 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by magicbud
hahahaha, land of the free....
Hope they get shut down the greedy bastards and told they have to give all the rake back.
Guess we know who the losing players are itt
04-16-2011 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by the muslim
PRETTY AMAZING THAT THE OWNERS OF POKERSTAR AND 888 GAMING ARE BOTH ISRAELI AND GONNA SELL TEH PSTARS COMPANY TO 888 FOFR 2 BILLION. THAT A LOT OF MONEY BUT ITS A CORPORATE BUYOUT OBV AND AM NOT IMPRESSED OBV. THEY SHOULD BE WORYIN ABOUT THE PLAYRES AND OUR MONEIS AND POINTS ON THER SITES BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MATTERS INT HE END AND IF WE DONT GET OUR MONIE OUT NOW WE WILL NEVER DEPOSIT ON IT AGAIN EVEN IF IT IS NOW OWN BY 888...YOU NEED TO KEEP US HAPPY IMO
take off CAPS ffs
04-16-2011 , 05:43 AM
I try to update my FTP software and I only get error message : Could not download update

I live in Norway , Europe , I am not a US citizen so whats the problem? I need to cash out!

fulltiltpoker.co.uk site is up and running.
pokerstars.eu is fine
04-16-2011 , 05:44 AM
US players can't log on on FT either? I'm looking in the lobby and saw some players from the states.
04-16-2011 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by fukyflush
THE ****


dude stop spamming this thread,Mods plz ban him
04-16-2011 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by the muslim
RACISM BAN?? WTF BRO AM JUST RELIGIOS U DONT HAVE TO GO RACISM AT ME? IF YOU AGAINST RACISM YOU SHOULD REPORT THIS GUY AND CLICK THE HAZARD SYMBOL ON THE LEFT SIDE OF HIS POAST #2675 AND REPORT IT FOR RACISM CUZ THIS IS UNNACEPTIBLE IMO AND IF U AGAINST RACISM YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THIS KIND OF RACISM PIGS
take a chill bill kill bill. We got bigger battles to fight here, like how in the **** do i make money now?
04-16-2011 , 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by viking1
try to update my FTP software and I only get error message : Could not download update

I live in Norway , Europe , I am not a US citizen so whats the problem? I need to cash out!

fulltiltpoker.co.uk site is up and running.
pokerstars.eu is fine
Download update from fulltiltpoker.co.uk
04-16-2011 , 05:44 AM
I'm at work and just read that now! What are you all doing now? Cash out everything? Is it possible to cash out? I'm from austria and play on stars...
04-16-2011 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by iloveboobs
i've also cashed out via MB, but haven't received that message yet
if u dont get that message from stars then u should be ok, friend of mine said he withdrew from stars fine and recieved email saying it would be credited in next 72 hours! weird as im from same country and tried before him!!!
04-16-2011 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by El-Sheik
US players can't log on on FT either? I'm looking in the lobby and saw some players from the states.
they haven't logged out from earlier. when they do they will be blocked from all real money games.
04-16-2011 , 05:45 AM
Just played some HUSNG's. So happy I don't live in America
04-16-2011 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by coolnout
they haven't logged out from earlier. when they do they will be blocked from all real money games.
never logout if you're from US imo.
04-16-2011 , 05:46 AM
Any1 give me some cliffs on this? where we up to?
04-16-2011 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LeoManowar
Download update from fulltiltpoker.co.uk
When click on dowload below message appear

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@download.eyetxt.com and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache Server at download.co.uk Port 80
04-16-2011 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by El-Sheik
US players can't log on on FT either? I'm looking in the lobby and saw some players from the states.
We're still playing for earlier, before the lock down.

Never give up, never surrender, play till we pass out.
04-16-2011 , 05:47 AM
Wish they never accepted us players and this would never happen

      
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