this is one of the weirdest plays i've ever seen from someone who's owed money.

rampage's giving a guy who's dodging payment, a way out of not paying... and if the dude loses the fight there's still no reason to believe he'd pay?! surely i'm missing something cus this just sounds like the dumbest freeroll i've ever heard of from rampage

(this is also notwithstanding the agreed interest rates on the loan. good lord)

He probably feels he won't get the money and wants a chance to beat his ass legally.

yeah i think you're right. Although wouldn't you wait more than 13 minutes after your first post to see if the guy contacts you

Rampage was already getting freerolled when he gave out the loan, the guy definitely put the 450k into the dumbest investment possible, like staking Mikki at baccarat, and may have even been planning to pay Rampage back for at least a couple months if it had hit. he knows hes not getting paid back now and its probably cathartic for him to lash out.

Yeeeesh, yeah... I wonder if there is any legal recourse for this one.

There is one reply claiming he can still collect on the principal (despite the usury), but the poster is a personal injury lawyer, meaning his strategy doesn't hinge on actually going to a trial.

Regardless of how any of this shakes out, I declare Melissa Schubert the winner.

I guess Dustin messaged him about threats he is getting now.

https://twitter.com/rampagepoker/sta...12612184281088

I think it's entirely possible Rampage, Mariano, Airball aren't very bright
This, the Ryuske guy.

On the other hand, as people have pointed out they're running effectively pyramid schemes... So, who cares.
Avon or Tupperware for the youngs

How so ?

Have you seen how much these YouTube celebrities make for boxing matches? He probably figures that he’ll make over 450k by doing the boxing match so even if he loses, or wins and the guy still doesn’t pay he still made his 450k back

Her responses (and responses to responses) to Rampage's Tweet were just funny.

At risk of victim-shaming/blaming, this sums it up well:

LOL this guy trying now to come off as the victim. But who loans a complete stranger for half a million. I'll never understand this. Just complete stupidity.

Hopefully Rampage gets his money back.

1) I have no idea how someone can lend a stranger this kind of money

2)holy **** does this show how much Ramage Mariano etc are making from these apps.

I hope for their sake they're smart enough to pay taxes on it and don't punt all of this money like many now bustos mid 2000s big name pros did thinking it will last forever.

I think that the reason why poker players are often vulnurable to scams like this one is because the idea of being able to make money playing poker also seems like some sort of a scam - but, as we know here, isn't (at least for some people).

This can warp people's perspective and also make them believe that they are some sort savants when it comes to spotting worthy money-making opportunities

I just put it together that this Dustin dude played on Hustler like 8x summer 2022.

LOL at all the tweets in response about “Yeah he tried to get me for $1M…”, “He tried to get me for $500K, turned him down…” from all the Hustler regs

https://www.trackingpoker.com/user-info/Dustin%20Aab

Interesting theory, but not buying it. I certainly would like to know Ethan's mindset and thought process when he said "yes". I'd also like to know how many points he charged the guy he loaned the money to.

Never heard of this dude b4 last night, he just punts 250bb in this hand, prob cant win at teh pokerz.

"If you got me you got me""- QQ on A high board for 250bb after 3b ripping turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJg5Czy-aY

I used to watch HCL when this guy played…

A lot of his plays make sense now.

But honestly I would love to know what the plan was for this money?

How was the interest going to be paid back?

In most states I think loans are capped at 20% (usury laws) but this might be above the minimum to charge more than 20%. I believe you can charge over 20% when it’s a large loan for a business. Not sure. Any internet lawyers have a take on this?

This whole LA poker scene seems like a breeding ground for grifters.

Sorry for double post… but…

This dude Dustin has 1.5m ig followers which seems like a lot for someone that has no claim to fame and isnt and OF girl….

I know rampage had a meteoric rise to fame… his channel was stuck on like 30-40k then boomed.

So putting the pieces together rampage and this Dustin guy are probably using bots or some other method to pump followers for clout and $ under the guise of “marketing” and “networking”.

TLDR: what the heck is this world coming to

Y’all saying you hope Rampage gets his money back. You know what? I don’t. Let this be a lesson to him. A very expensive lesson. YOU DON’T LOAN DEGENS WHOM YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY.
Oh, did it bite you in the ass? What did you expect?

You have been defending people (namely Torelli) for being good people despite the scummy thing(s) they have done, but now you want (for what it seems is a really good person) to lose a bunch of money. Ok.

Ive seen youtube recap videos where Rampage/Mariano show how much they make in youtube revenue - its about 150-200k/year, certainly good money but not nearly enough to support the kind of lifestyle they live. It makes sense that the majority of the money that funds their lifestyle is coming from these apps, since they are basically running their own poker site where

1) there is zero separation of player funds/accountability that you would see on a regulated poker site
2) they charge 3x the rake of a normal poker site
3) they get to collect from the losing players but slowpay/straight up ban the winning players without paying them, and since these are illegal games there is nothing the winning players are able to do except shrug their shoulders

if i were them I would probably try to be a little less flashy and not advertise that I was throwing are 500k like it was chump change, because thats getting close to the type of money where the Fed might start getting a little curious. Oh and like you said I would also pay taxes so i wouldnt also get an evasion charge on top of any other charges that might come from running an illegal gambling ring.

Rampage must be raking in millions from his illegal poker app to 'lend' $450K to a tatted up Instagram influencer nicknamed Dustin Da Closer.

Why are you hoping a loan shark gets their money back? I hope he is arrested and convicted of his crime and does the appropriate time.

He definitely botted those 1.5m followers, he has pretty much no online presence outside of Instagram.

Jordan Belfort has 2m followers on Instagram and he is a household name who actively uses the platform.

This article I stumbled across is hilarious https://muziquemagazine.com/fans-can...orking-sounds/

I'm confused what "well over $450,000 is owed."

That could mean a few different things:

452k
469k?
790mm?

I'm mostly kidding but well over 450k seems like an odd way to phrase a debt.