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11-04-2008 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TxRedMan
i'll spare you my version of twains 'english as she is taught, english as she is spoke, english as she is learned' arguement.

and btw, you know nothing about the big picture. obsess elsewhere, you might see past your own nose.

...and what is the "big picture"?
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11-04-2008 , 09:50 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,208

So ironic

Edit: you don't seem to be into the subtlety thing so I'll say it overtly. Perhaps you should be doing something of value to society instead of posting > 10 times a day in a poker forum.
There are people on this site with 35000 posts, and people who probably post 25 times a day. I come on after work and post for the enjoyment of several different forums, usually while I'm doing other things online. No different than many people here. Doesn't seem to have much to do with the issue of whether or not online multitablers are worthwhile to society or not. I sure as hell don't make like some 22 year old "pros" and eschew answering friend's phone calls and texts for a week because I've been multitabling 36 of my last 40 waking hours.
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11-04-2008 , 10:07 PM
lawl@bart threatening me and telling me no to say "arse"
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11-04-2008 , 10:15 PM
Yeah!!! The ******ed threads from Britessential are back!!!
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11-04-2008 , 10:41 PM
When someone carjacks me, forces me at gunpoint to withdraw money and then deposit on a poker site, then sits down behind me with a gun to my head and forces me to play, all at the behest of poker pros in need of fishies, those pros can feel guilty for taking my noob bankroll.

All colluders or any other cheat can and should feel guilty and can and should die right now (I'd love to help).

Nobody else should have a problem with taking my money if I'm not good enough yet to keep it and grow it.

And this site, in particular, full of sharks though it is, has more people quicker to urge tilters/regular losers/potential addicts that they seek help and cease donating than any place else.

So what is the problem?
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11-04-2008 , 11:25 PM
******ed thread cause poker players do contribute to society if they pay taxes just like any other job they help the economy
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11-05-2008 , 12:30 AM
society doesnt owe anything to me, so i dont owe anything to society
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11-05-2008 , 12:30 AM
lol @ this thread. who cares if it's a job or it's not a job? it's a way to make money, which, believe it or not OP, is why 99.9999999% of people work 'jobs' in your definition to begin with.
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11-05-2008 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
I am no full time poker player, and I could never be one due to lack of attitude.

But one thing tilts me - people who call playing cash game poker a job, or even a profession.

Poker is not a job.

You do not produce anything.

And you do not provide any service - the recreational players could have their poker game among themselves. No one needs you. You are a leech.

So could you at least be honest about what you do? None of this is to say that playing poker for a living should be illegal or prohibited. And yes, playing full time poker is demanding and takes a lot of effort.

But at least admit that you are worthless to society. Know who you are. First rule in life.
we produce money and volatility.
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11-05-2008 , 04:27 AM
they provide entertainment.

its better than playing the slots or cheating on your wife
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11-05-2008 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AGx19
society doesnt owe anything to me, so i dont owe anything to society
Hm. Good point.
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11-05-2008 , 09:11 AM
Many posters said that most people work to make ends meet and not to contribute to society. I agree. But almost everyone takes at least a little bit of pride in what he does.

What will an online poker player take pride in? "All day long I make as many people as possible miserable. They know their risk when they sit down, so I don't care if they feel bad after I took their money, and I am proud that I have the attitude to do this."

Errr, thanks, but that sucks.

Awesome how many in this thread compared playing cash game poker to stealing and then said "so what".

Last edited by BartJ385; 11-05-2008 at 09:24 AM.
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11-05-2008 , 10:27 AM
Soldier ... is that a job ?



I mean you just go around an kill people, what's with that ?
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11-05-2008 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
Many posters said that most people work to make ends meet and not to contribute to society. I agree. But almost everyone takes at least a little bit of pride in what he does.

What will an online poker player take pride in? "All day long I make as many people as possible miserable. They know their risk when they sit down, so I don't care if they feel bad after I took their money, and I am proud that I have the attitude to do this."

Errr, thanks, but that sucks.

Awesome how many in this thread compared playing cash game poker to stealing and then said "so what".
wtf idiot i take pride in plenty of things, not your bull**** manufactured world where i hate myself and everything in it.
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11-05-2008 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, ten trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It's bull****. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it. You've got that killer instinct. Stick around pal, I've still got a lot to teach you.

You win.
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11-05-2008 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by millerlolife
hear hear. poker is the last refuge of the weak. poker will accept the weak, introverted, ugly, lazy, short (daniel N.), stupid, overweight, inferior...whereas corporate america will not.

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11-05-2008 , 03:36 PM
hi bart.

i dont think you understand. most poker players simply dont give a ****. why you give a **** we'll never know.
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11-05-2008 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
I am no full time poker player, and I could never be one due to lack of attitude.

But one thing tilts me - people who call playing cash game poker a job, or even a profession.

Poker is not a job.

You do not produce anything.

And you do not provide any service - the recreational players could have their poker game among themselves. No one needs you. You are a leech.

So could you at least be honest about what you do? None of this is to say that playing poker for a living should be illegal or prohibited. And yes, playing full time poker is demanding and takes a lot of effort.

But at least admit that you are worthless to society. Know who you are. First rule in life.

But what if I take that money from the people who would of just traded it back and forth till the rake got it all...and instead invest it in lower income housing, where I fix up places and improve them instead of the status quo for the area which is to be a slumlord.

Then am I still a leech?





someone went busto LOLOL HAHAHA
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11-05-2008 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
But what if I take that money from the people who would of just traded it back and forth till the rake got it all...and instead invest it in lower income housing, where I fix up places and improve them instead of the status quo for the area which is to be a slumlord.

Then am I still a leech?





someone went busto LOLOL HAHAHA
A leech- probably not...

A thief- YES
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11-05-2008 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
Many posters said that most people work to make ends meet and not to contribute to society. I agree. But almost everyone takes at least a little bit of pride in what he does.

What will an online poker player take pride in? "All day long I make as many people as possible miserable. They know their risk when they sit down, so I don't care if they feel bad after I took their money, and I am proud that I have the attitude to do this."

Errr, thanks, but that sucks.

Awesome how many in this thread compared playing cash game poker to stealing and then said "so what".

we are entertainers in a sense.most people play poker for fun without other people to play against they would not be able to play,we provide them with sum1 to play with and have fun.what do poker players take pride in?being one of the best, playing well, getting respect from their peers,and winning mtt's.

how many ppl actually have jobs that they take pride in?i think what u dont realize is that most people DONT lose their life savings playing poker,and most ppl DONT have a miserable time when they play poker,otherwise nobody would play no more.as for live pros fish absolutely relish the idea of being able to play with them and enjoy it win or lose.u seems rly arrogant and i dont think i can say anything to prove u wrong wether it be in poker or anything u feel strongly about kinda wasting my time.

im sure if u look at most jobs u can find a way that it makes ppl miserable.

solider-obv

teacher-failing ppl

working for company-putting other companys out of business

lawyer-put ppl in jail

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11-05-2008 , 06:58 PM
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im sure if u look at most jobs u can find a way that it makes ppl miserable.
solider-obv
teacher-failing ppl
working for company-putting other companys out of business
lawyer-put ppl in jail
Keep reaching, you might eventually get ahold of something.
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11-05-2008 , 08:42 PM
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The comparison of poker players to stock traders can be heard very often.
In my opinion, someone who earns his living trading stocks (with his own money) does not have a job. But to make that living, he does not have to take money away from someone else.
He does not contribute to society, but does not harm it either. (Except for the big guns who actively influence the stock-exchange prices.)


When you buy an equity at $8 thinking it's worth $10 (and you're right), you're only gaining at the sellers expense - and in the same proportion.


The collective presence of those people ensure that money is moved from places where it will yield a low marginal return to places with high marginal return, which is another way of saying that they make the market 'more efficient'.


But on an individual basis, those actual gains from the increased 'efficiency' of the market will never be proportional to what they've skimmed off the top. Much in the way that the marginal contribution of a single poker player (in terms of entertainment that they provide) will never compare to the money they're taking off the table.




I'd argue there are a lot of other professions that we'd be better off making obsolete than poker and trading.


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Many posters said that most people work to make ends meet and not to contribute to society. I agree. But almost everyone takes at least a little bit of pride in what he does.

If you need to have a job to feel as though you're a "good person", you probably arent a good person.

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11-05-2008 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BartJ385
I am no full time poker player, and I could never be one due to lack of attitude.

But one thing tilts me - people who call playing cash game poker a job, or even a profession.

Poker is not a job.

You do not produce anything.

And you do not provide any service - the recreational players could have their poker game among themselves. No one needs you. You are a leech.

So could you at least be honest about what you do? None of this is to say that playing poker for a living should be illegal or prohibited. And yes, playing full time poker is demanding and takes a lot of effort.

But at least admit that you are worthless to society. Know who you are. First rule in life.

Sucks that I have to pay 50% in taxes then.
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11-05-2008 , 09:32 PM
"But at least admit that you are worthless to society"

you really think this? can i not pay taxes then on my poker winnings?
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11-05-2008 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by potatoesareawesome
Sucks that I have to pay 50% in taxes then.
lol was just posting the same thing
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