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11-04-2008 , 06:16 PM

#126

mickeycrimm

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Stacking boxes is a job. That's what I used to do before becoming a gambler in 1992. I made 82K last year--am at 42K so far this year. I ain't no Phil Ivey but I make alot more jack than box stackers. Whether some people disdain gamblers or not is of no consequence to me. I'll quit when they shovel dirt on my ass.

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11-04-2008 , 06:17 PM

#127

KingOfFelt

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

Reading comprehension helps. I said several posts ago that poker can easily be considered a job. Ergo, you need to have the argument about "real jobs" versus poker with the OP, not me. I'm simply commenting on people who essentially throw away their life because of some idiotic cliched notion that poker as a lifestyle is better than "working in some office"

And for some it is. Are you denying that? Please stop with the blanket statements. For some people it can be a poor life choice and for others it is a great one. You don't make that decision...sorry.

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11-04-2008 , 06:24 PM

#128

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You are correct, it may be good, bad, or neutral. As far as each individual random person on who I have no info, I don't know. Obviously in other threads like the "College kids .... " this has been discussed ad nauseum.

I guess I just find the overtly absurd number of people 17-25, on this or other strategy sites, who are tickled pink over "turning pro", funny as hell.

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11-04-2008 , 06:38 PM

#129

tiltymcfish0

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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater

The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, ten trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation. It's bull****. You got ninety percent of the American public out there with little or no net worth. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal. The news, war, peace, famine, upheaval, the price per paper clip. We pick that rabbit out of the hat while everybody sits out there wondering how the hell we did it. Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it. You've got that killer instinct. Stick around pal, I've still got a lot to teach you.

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11-04-2008 , 06:43 PM

#130

qwertyu121

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Originally Posted by notaeus

it's not, but that's why most of us want to be pros.

Really because I kind of figured most people who play poker just want to make money. Most people aren't looking to become the next Phil Ivey.

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11-04-2008 , 06:46 PM

#131

Boodabor

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

You are correct, it may be good, bad, or neutral. As far as each individual random person on who I have no info, I don't know. Obviously in other threads like the "College kids .... " this has been discussed ad nauseum.

I guess I just find the overtly absurd number of people 12-25, on this or other strategy sites, who are tickled pink over "turning pro", funny as hell.

fyp

and I think poker should be considered a job as long as you have to pay taxes on your winnings (basically everywhere except Canada I think)

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11-04-2008 , 06:50 PM

#132

tiltymcfish0

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Originally Posted by BartJ385

fyp after facepalming

I have also really enjoyed you trying to convince people that you are not brit

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11-04-2008 , 06:52 PM

#133

millerlolife

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[QUOTE=borisp;6951377]Why are free markets successful? Because people try so hard to earn money, because sufficient incentives are in place. The providers of these incentives play an essential role in this process.

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Yeah, our free markets are a huge success. Especially in the financial sector. lol. the government didnt have to intervene at all.

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11-04-2008 , 07:00 PM

#134

BurningSquirrel

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Originally Posted by BartJ385

The comparison of poker players to stock traders can be heard very often.
In my opinion, someone who earns his living trading stocks (with his own money) does not have a job. But to make that living, he does not have to take money away from someone else.
He does not contribute to society, but does not harm it either. (Except for the big guns who actively influence the stock-exchange prices.)

are you really that ignorant?

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11-04-2008 , 07:01 PM

#135

Ryanj37

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I'm doing something for society, fleecing rich foreigners to help my own economy. I'm a patriot

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11-04-2008 , 07:05 PM

#136

Ryanj37

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Originally Posted by Boodabor

fyp

and I think poker should be considered a job as long as you have to pay taxes on your winnings (basically everywhere except Canada and New Zealand and Australia and a host of other countries I cant think of right now I think)

FYP

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11-04-2008 , 07:06 PM

#137

DrVanNostrin

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grunch: Poker pros get money out of the hands of poor decision makers. Poker pros make those who cannot make logical decisions less likely to become powerful.

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11-04-2008 , 07:15 PM

#138

borisp

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[QUOTE=millerlolife;6952925]

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Originally Posted by borisp

Why are free markets successful? Because people try so hard to earn money, because sufficient incentives are in place. The providers of these incentives play an essential role in this process.

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Yeah, our free markets are a huge success. Especially in the financial sector. lol. the government didnt have to intervene at all.

[ ] gets the point

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11-04-2008 , 07:20 PM

#139

millerlolife

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[QUOTE=borisp;6953387]

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Originally Posted by millerlolife

[ ] gets the point

[ ] [ ] [ ]

lol, a little poll box you made for yourself. how cute and original. If you dont get the point you should tell the hamster to get back on the wheel.

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11-04-2008 , 07:25 PM

#140

Boodabor

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Originally Posted by Ryanj37

FYP

awesome, more places to go if I decide to play poker after college

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11-04-2008 , 07:33 PM

#141

pnycff

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i pay taxes on my winnings which obama will take and give to those too lazy or stuid to generate income on their own
so actually i agree i am not contributing to society as I am helping those people continue to be worthless drains on society

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11-04-2008 , 07:34 PM

#142

millerlolife

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[QUOTE=borisp;6953387]

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Originally Posted by millerlolife

[ ] gets the point

Heres a clue bud. There was and is an economic crisis in the US and even Alan Greenspan acknowledged that his free-market ideology is flawed.

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11-04-2008 , 07:37 PM

#143

grindtofreedom

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i wouldnt really consider giving millions to charity worthless for society.

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11-04-2008 , 07:42 PM

#144

zachvac

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[QUOTE=millerlolife;6953797]

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Originally Posted by borisp

Heres a clue bud. There was and is an economic crisis in the US and even Alan Greenspan acknowledged that his free-market ideology is flawed.

lol. When have we ever had a free-market economy in the last century? The government regulates everything, and then it crashes, the problem must have been there wasn't enough government. Yeah sure...

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11-04-2008 , 07:44 PM

#145

tiltymcfish0

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my head is starting to hurt

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11-04-2008 , 07:48 PM

#146

Steve Williams

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

you have to face reality and realize you are pretty worthless and invisible to society.

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So ironic

Edit: you don't seem to be into the subtlety thing so I'll say it overtly. Perhaps you should be doing something of value to society instead of posting > 10 times a day in a poker forum.

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11-04-2008 , 09:00 PM

#147

Pokertini

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Originally Posted by king acehole

?

Please rank the following according to societal value:
doctor
lawyer
prostitute
teacher
bum
felon
athlete
cat
poker player
scientologist
meter maid
tree
politician

doctor
teacher
meter maid
athlete
felon
bum
poker player
prostitute
politician
scientologist
>all other things in society
lawyer
cat

Edited to add: lawyer and cat are very close, I could be swayed.

Last edited by Pokertini; 11-04-2008 at 09:13 PM.

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11-04-2008 , 09:10 PM

#148

2OutsNoProb

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Heres a clue bud. There was and is an economic crisis in the US and even Alan Greenspan acknowledged that his free-market ideology is flawed.

This is a poker forum, take the rambling election year politics elsewhere.

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11-04-2008 , 09:16 PM

#149

millerlolife

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

This is a poker forum, take the rambling election year politics elsewhere.

hear hear. poker is the last refuge of the weak. poker will accept the weak, introverted, ugly, lazy, short (daniel N.), stupid, overweight, inferior...whereas corporate america will not.

Last edited by millerlolife; 11-04-2008 at 09:42 PM.

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11-04-2008 , 09:40 PM

#150

TxRedMan

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Originally Posted by BartJ385

I am no full time poker player, and I could never be one due to lack of attitude.

But one thing tilts me - people who call playing cash game poker a job, or even a profession.

Poker is not a job.

You do not produce anything.

And you do not provide any service - the recreational players could have their poker game among themselves. No one needs you. You are a leech.

So could you at least be honest about what you do? None of this is to say that playing poker for a living should be illegal or prohibited. And yes, playing full time poker is demanding and takes a lot of effort.

But at least admit that you are worthless to society. Know who you are. First rule in life.

i'll spare you my version of twains 'english as she is taught, english as she is spoke, english as she is learned' arguement.

and btw, you know nothing about the big picture. obsess elsewhere, you might see past your own nose.

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