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01-07-2015 , 02:45 PM
Galfond is doing a lot worse of than Gandolf imo. Time to quit this poker playing scheme and become a grey wizard in 2015.
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01-07-2015 , 03:00 PM
chimpanzee would win no contest. i remember reading that a chimpanzee is 4 times stronger than a human of equal size. so for it to be a fair fight the mma fighter would have to fight a chimpanzee 1/4 the size of himself, so basically an adolescent. how many humans have ripped the face off another human with their bare hands? the chimp could rip the mma fighters arm out of his socket if he wanted.
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01-07-2015 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 14756897412369
chimpanzee would win no contest. i remember reading that a chimpanzee is 4 times stronger than a human of equal size. so for it to be a fair fight the mma fighter would have to fight a chimpanzee 1/4 the size of himself, so basically an adolescent. how many humans have ripped the face off another human with their bare hands? the chimp could rip the mma fighters arm out of his socket if he wanted.
What if it was a midget chimp?
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01-07-2015 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by freshtodeathx
What if it was a midget chimp?
well yeah i mean if you change the circumstances enough i guess it could alter the outcome but then its not the same thing.

I mean what if the chimp had some sort of psychical disability/impairment?

but then thats not a typical chimp so its not the same scenario.

besides did the chimp agree to this match? how despicable trying to beat up an innocent animal simply to see if can I hope the chimp does more then rip his arms off!
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01-07-2015 , 03:19 PM
no human on earth or in the history of earth could win in a fight vs this:
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even this little guy could probably knock out the human in a few quick hits before he's able to do anything about it.
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01-07-2015 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 14756897412369
chimpanzee would win no contest. i remember reading that a chimpanzee is 4 times stronger than a human of equal size. so for it to be a fair fight the mma fighter would have to fight a chimpanzee 1/4 the size of himself, so basically an adolescent. how many humans have ripped the face off another human with their bare hands? the chimp could rip the mma fighters arm out of his socket if he wanted.
Ah, but this is an interesting point: it's not so much what the chimp could do but rather what he would do in you put him in the octagon. For that matter, one human could rip a face off another human, they just tend not to.

As for the OP, let me see if I have his logic correct...

I have two friends playing Major League Baseball (well one is on the Cardinals 40-man but has yet to play in his first game) and another two in the NFL. I'm just gonna tell them all to quit their jobs right now because the highest paid person in their profession doesn't make as much as the highest-paid actor.

Yeah, I think that's about right.

OP, online poker as a career might be tougher than before, but it's not dead. Not yet. But even if it does die, I'm sure Daniel Negreanu will blog about why that's a good thing.
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01-07-2015 , 03:36 PM
i guess that's true. the only way for it to be a fair fight would be to make it a fight to death. because the chimpanzee wouldn't understand the concept of a fight for sport vs another species. in a fight to the death with no weapons/tools, the human would lose in instant once the chimpanzee feels his life is in danger. a better bet might be an o/u on how long the human would survive.
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01-07-2015 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist

OP, online poker as a career might be tougher than before, but it's not dead. Not yet. But even if it does die, I'm sure Daniel Negreanu will blog about why that's a good thing.
post of thread i would post a pic of a trophy but i cant figure out how to post pics cause all the worlds computers hate me. AI has already happened at the moment all the computers of the world have reached teenage maturity and decided to bully one particular individual alone for humor. eventually they will rise up and wipe out all of humanity but right now they are just focusing on bullying me.
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01-07-2015 , 03:42 PM
Hello everybody!
This is my first post - have to say that. Okay so now I can continue...Anyways you might not have considered all the people who have opted out of tracking could've earned around the $2.8M area or maybe even more. Sure it's harder now since (in my experience) almost every player I sit with at the games I play (45/90/180 SNGS) have some solid knowledge of the game from averge-beginner to solid reg so less spots i.e. when push/folding since every post is contested ruthlessly, players know how to exploit exploit exploit. Now with the advent of the internet so much strategy is out there for free, and thats a worrying aspect, it reduces the average player edge. Not that it can;t be managed...
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01-07-2015 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem1848
How much did Sergei Brin make last year though? What about Larry Ellison?
Sergei Brin probably lost a boatload of money last year since his salary is $1/year and he owns billions in Google stock which is down about 15% from its highs.

He likely lost 50 times what Gus Hansen did online.
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01-07-2015 , 06:06 PM
IMO chimp beats at least 90 five year olds

Maybe even 100
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01-07-2015 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeHoldem1848
The MMA fighter's genitals would be lying on the ground next to his eyeballs imo.

Might make an interesting prop bet.
Nah, I read somewhere that a full grown male chimp is as strong as a 300 lb human bodybuilder.
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01-07-2015 , 06:34 PM
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01-07-2015 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Ah, but this is an interesting point: it's not so much what the chimp could do but rather what he would do in you put him in the octagon. For that matter, one human could rip a face off another human, they just tend not to.

As for the OP, let me see if I have his logic correct...

I have two friends playing Major League Baseball (well one is on the Cardinals 40-man but has yet to play in his first game) and another two in the NFL. I'm just gonna tell them all to quit their jobs right now because the highest paid person in their profession doesn't make as much as the highest-paid actor.

Yeah, I think that's about right.

OP, online poker as a career might be tougher than before, but it's not dead. Not yet. But even if it does die, I'm sure Daniel Negreanu will blog about why that's a good thing.
yeah the chimp would, assuming it was a wild one. It spends its summers hunting monkeys, would look at you and i as a big soft fat monkey.
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01-07-2015 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by siebenacht
Following the logic of some posters itt, it seems to be easily possible to earn 200k+ as a non poker player. In reality in most professions you don't nearly make as much. Not even beeing a doctor, lawyer or politician you are making 200k+ in most (first world) countries. Sure there are some very rare exceptions. The average income in germany for example is like 3k euro/month, lol.
From my point of view playing poker to earn money is far from dead compared to other venues. Sure if you compare online poker to basketball, soccer, icehockey or football you will see a couple of guys making more. But compared to the overall number of people involved only a very small fraction.
How many people does poker employ is the question. Right after UIGEA was enforced party gaming's stock evaluation dropped 60% in 24 hours. This obviously was due to the expected decrease in player pool. Ever since UIGEA poker has trended towards smaller pools with an increase in competition due to constant draining of the player pool.

Facebook has a 150 billion cap or whatever, but it only employs around few thousand people. So they're nothing close to what General Electric is as a company.

To anyone who is optimistic about the future of online poker or even poker, give me 1 great piece of news that has increased the state of poker in the last 5 years.

Last edited by bluffers; 01-07-2015 at 08:03 PM.
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01-07-2015 , 08:26 PM
chimp would destroy any human. that guy who posted 1st picture is right, no human ever in the history of the world could take him in a fight
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01-07-2015 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by insyder19
Well Amaya made more money in 2014 than pretty much any banker or businessman?
lol
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01-07-2015 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 14756897412369
chimpanzee would win no contest. i remember reading that a chimpanzee is 4 times stronger than a human of equal size. so for it to be a fair fight the mma fighter would have to fight a chimpanzee 1/4 the size of himself, so basically an adolescent. how many humans have ripped the face off another human with their bare hands? the chimp could rip the mma fighters arm out of his socket if he wanted.
I suggest a new strategy, 14756897412369...let the chimp win.
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01-07-2015 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nikinblinds
yeah the chimp would, assuming it was a wild one. It spends its summers hunting monkeys, would look at you and i as a big soft fat monkey.


Now I REALLY want to see a chimp-MMA fight happen.
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01-07-2015 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sqwerty12
Just like the worlds top surgeon probably earned less than the worlds highest paid banker, the worlds best bus driver probably earned less than the worlds highest earning poker player.

That's life.
World's best bus driver... got me thinking how does one rank bus drivers?

We need World Series of Bus Driving, with multiple bracelet events such as bus rally, accuracy parking, passenger bowling etc. ESPN will televise it. Gonna be huge after online poker is officially dead and every poker player is driving a bus.
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01-07-2015 , 11:59 PM
Lol
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01-08-2015 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Aces123123

3 In many places winnings from poker are tax free.


This is just one reason why poker pros are regarded as scum by the rest of society.

Why should your income be tax free while you use the infrastructure of where you live that everyone else pays for?

Yet poker players quickly move countries if heaven forbid they should have to pay tax and they think that's perfectly normal/acceptable. No wonder the poker community has no allies and is crumbling.
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01-08-2015 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by LukeSilver
look its pretty simple there are of course better jobs out there then poker even if your the very top player. I knew a lawyer once who really did not make much money but then you go and find the right Lawyer and they make more then even the top poker player. My ex gf had a lot of rich friends with a lot of contacts, those guys could get a job easily even if they had flunked school and didnt get a single GCSE. I am talking six figure. some people have the right contacts or circumstances etc.

There is a lot of truth in the expression its not what you know its who you know. Now don't get me wrong there are people that make it on there own anyway however a lot of it is people know the right people. there are sales jobs out there that will easily pay a few hundred k etc that a some people would find relatively easy. perhaps these same individuals could make $20 an hour from online poker with a lot of effort, so of course poker isnt the best option for them. However I suck at sales and also there tends to be a certain personality type in sales predominantly and i really don't like it. I dislike most people that work in sales.

some people in sales might call me stupid, with the mistakes i made there they out performed me and it wasnt variance getting lucky etc they were just better at the job then me. However take those individuals and put them playing poker and they suck i know some of them do play and they are bad fish simple as. I could work really hard at sales but I would never really get anywhere I am not good with people. they could work very hard at poker but they could not get beyond a certain point they are not good with math.

its all very well comparing professions but different personalitiy types and abilities suit different areas. you may very well find that you can only make X from poker and you can make four times that doing your job but another guy might find that they can make twice as much doing poker then your job pays and maybe they cant get the work you can anyway.

I wouldn't say poker is dead as a career not yet anyway, but I would say it does not look like it has the most stable future.

theres a lot going on that threatens it a lot that offers a lot of hope and day dreams etc.
there are a number of different theories regarding where poker is headed etc. and these posts pop up all the time but the fact is that no one really knows for sure.
You dislike most people that work in sales? You are clearly some sort of socially challenged moron
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01-08-2015 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpnrun
This is just one reason why poker pros are regarded as scum by the rest of society.

Why should your income be tax free while you use the infrastructure of where you live that everyone else pays for?

Yet poker players quickly move countries if heaven forbid they should have to pay tax and they think that's perfectly normal/acceptable. No wonder the poker community has no allies and is crumbling.
that doesn't make them much different than anyone else in the world. look at how many rich people jump on the chance to move their money where it's most profitable, ie to tax havens. average joe would too if he could. its not about morals its about opportunity.
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01-08-2015 , 12:49 AM
The super rich can probably justify those moves at least partly by the sheer weight of tax they pay already.

You can't deny poker as a profession is a morally corrupt way to earn a living if you dodge tax
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