Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)
10-08-2019
, 12:37 PM
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There are four possible explanations to the JJ/J4 hand
1. Mike P played the hand legitimately. At some point after the hand, they realized the holding was actually JJ (verified by dealer or the player). Thus the graphics stay as J4, but the commentators on the 30 minute delay find out it was actually JJ.
2. One of the jacks in the deck was registered as a four of spades when the deck was initially registered to the RFID system. I believe the registering is all done manually (the RFID reader asks for the jack of hearts and then you put the jack of hearts on the reader, or something like this). At some point from the beginning of the deck being introduced to 30 minutes after this hand was played, it is a known issue with the deck that one of the jacks is reading as the four. If Mike P already knew the 4s was actually a jack then he can fold correctly.
3. They are running the MultiGFX mode of PokerGFX and they are displaying a secondary graphic that is not running in RFID mode. That is to say, on every hand the graphics person is reading the RFID hole card information off of the 1st copy and manually enters the hole cards into the 2nd copy which is being displayed on stream. Maybe there was a technical reason the tech wanted to manually enter the hole cards. On this particular hand, the tech incorrectly entered the 4 instead of the J and did not catch his mistake, but Mike P still had access to the correct information.
4. Mike P knows Joe well enough to know that he is never playing J4os in a 3-bet pot, so he ignores the RFID information and assumes Joe either has JJ or 44 and folds. Taylor concurs with Mike P's read and goes ahead and tells the commentators the graphics are wrong.
1. Mike P played the hand legitimately. At some point after the hand, they realized the holding was actually JJ (verified by dealer or the player). Thus the graphics stay as J4, but the commentators on the 30 minute delay find out it was actually JJ.
2. One of the jacks in the deck was registered as a four of spades when the deck was initially registered to the RFID system. I believe the registering is all done manually (the RFID reader asks for the jack of hearts and then you put the jack of hearts on the reader, or something like this). At some point from the beginning of the deck being introduced to 30 minutes after this hand was played, it is a known issue with the deck that one of the jacks is reading as the four. If Mike P already knew the 4s was actually a jack then he can fold correctly.
3. They are running the MultiGFX mode of PokerGFX and they are displaying a secondary graphic that is not running in RFID mode. That is to say, on every hand the graphics person is reading the RFID hole card information off of the 1st copy and manually enters the hole cards into the 2nd copy which is being displayed on stream. Maybe there was a technical reason the tech wanted to manually enter the hole cards. On this particular hand, the tech incorrectly entered the 4 instead of the J and did not catch his mistake, but Mike P still had access to the correct information.
4. Mike P knows Joe well enough to know that he is never playing J4os in a 3-bet pot, so he ignores the RFID information and assumes Joe either has JJ or 44 and folds. Taylor concurs with Mike P's read and goes ahead and tells the commentators the graphics are wrong.
4
the previous hand a player has JJ
and the 4 is folded. The only true RFID errors I've seen are in some way keeping cards from the previous hand.At this point I'm of the opinion Taylor is 100% in on it - he can be placed on graphics when all of the suspicious hand changing happens. All it would take to exonerate himself is an explanation of this and one hasn't been provided because the only one that actually makes sense is that he's changing the cards for malicious purposes.
My opinion on Justin(JFK not the commentator) is that the level of incompetence it would take to be innocent here is getting way less likely than him just being in on it. It is possible his computer is running MultiGFX(why he needs to be there) and for someone to be accessing it without his knowledge, people addressing concerns about Mike, and a "completed investigation" - contrast this to someone like Thomas Kremser who doesn't put up with any nonsense whatsoever. Even though casino staff often are not world class players, many start out dealing cards as they work their way up the industry and are not clueless in regards to gambling. Comments such as 'he uses a martingale strategy for poker' make absolutely 0 sense and in the context of a potential cover-up do seem suspicious.
My opinion on the commentators is that they're in a tough spot and I don't see any conclusive evidence to think they're in on it. It's certainly a possibility and we can find strange moments if we look hard enough, but there's no clear link to me. Likely they saw Mike play on streams without cheating and saw an insane play when he did start cheating. At this point I can't fault them for not suspecting anything as this person played completely normal before - for many people it takes a while to change their mind after a first impression let alone lasting impressions from multiple interactions. They probably got used to him making some sick plays and then it's not completely unbelievable that a player would get better - it is to this extent once you piece the entire story together, but in isolation it's not unusual to believe crazy hands are legitimate especially after your previous experiences with this person tell a story of nothing unusual.
10-08-2019
, 12:44 PM
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I'm thinking 3 but don't really see the motivation for manually entering cards - maybe he just wanted try this to possibly use for the future. Of note is that before the J4 the previous hand a player has JJ and the 4 is folded. The only true RFID errors I've seen are in some way keeping cards from the previous hand.
At this point I'm of the opinion Taylor is 100% in on it - he can be placed on graphics when all of the suspicious hand changing happens. All it would take to exonerate himself is an explanation of this and one hasn't been provided because the only one that actually makes sense is that he's changing the cards for malicious purposes.
My opinion on Justin(JFK not the commentator) is that the level of incompetence it would take to be innocent here is getting way less likely than him just being in on it. It is possible his computer is running MultiGFX(why he needs to be there) and for someone to be accessing it without his knowledge, people addressing concerns about Mike, and a "completed investigation" - contrast this to someone like Thomas Kremser who doesn't put up with any nonsense whatsoever. Even though casino staff often are not world class players, many start out dealing cards as they work their way up the industry and are not clueless in regards to gambling. Comments such as 'he uses a martingale strategy for poker' make absolutely 0 sense and in the context of a potential cover-up do seem suspicious.
My opinion on the commentators is that they're in a tough spot and I don't see any conclusive evidence to think they're in on it. It's certainly a possibility and we can find strange moments if we look hard enough, but there's no clear link to me. Likely they saw Mike play on streams without cheating and saw an insane play when he did start cheating. At this point I can't fault them for not suspecting anything as this person played completely normal before - for many people it takes a while to change their mind after a first impression let alone lasting impressions from multiple interactions. They probably got used to him making some sick plays and then it's not completely unbelievable that a player would get better - it is to this extent once you piece the entire story together, but in isolation it's not unusual to believe crazy hands are legitimate especially after your previous experiences with this person tell a story of nothing unusual.
4 the previous hand a player has JJ and the 4 is folded. The only true RFID errors I've seen are in some way keeping cards from the previous hand.At this point I'm of the opinion Taylor is 100% in on it - he can be placed on graphics when all of the suspicious hand changing happens. All it would take to exonerate himself is an explanation of this and one hasn't been provided because the only one that actually makes sense is that he's changing the cards for malicious purposes.
My opinion on Justin(JFK not the commentator) is that the level of incompetence it would take to be innocent here is getting way less likely than him just being in on it. It is possible his computer is running MultiGFX(why he needs to be there) and for someone to be accessing it without his knowledge, people addressing concerns about Mike, and a "completed investigation" - contrast this to someone like Thomas Kremser who doesn't put up with any nonsense whatsoever. Even though casino staff often are not world class players, many start out dealing cards as they work their way up the industry and are not clueless in regards to gambling. Comments such as 'he uses a martingale strategy for poker' make absolutely 0 sense and in the context of a potential cover-up do seem suspicious.
My opinion on the commentators is that they're in a tough spot and I don't see any conclusive evidence to think they're in on it. It's certainly a possibility and we can find strange moments if we look hard enough, but there's no clear link to me. Likely they saw Mike play on streams without cheating and saw an insane play when he did start cheating. At this point I can't fault them for not suspecting anything as this person played completely normal before - for many people it takes a while to change their mind after a first impression let alone lasting impressions from multiple interactions. They probably got used to him making some sick plays and then it's not completely unbelievable that a player would get better - it is to this extent once you piece the entire story together, but in isolation it's not unusual to believe crazy hands are legitimate especially after your previous experiences with this person tell a story of nothing unusual.
10-08-2019
, 12:59 PM
10-08-2019
, 01:03 PM
10-08-2019
, 01:09 PM
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He bets 5k into 2.3k OTR to fold me off a chop. I remember thinking how absurd this HH was when I saw it 30 minutes later on the stream, but at the time had barely played with him and assumed he was clicking buttons and got lucky. Link to clip -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Dza9Z8LMo&t=258m45s
He bets 5k into 2.3k OTR to fold me off a chop. I remember thinking how absurd this HH was when I saw it 30 minutes later on the stream, but at the time had barely played with him and assumed he was clicking buttons and got lucky. Link to clip -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Dza9Z8LMo&t=258m45s
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I'm still quite partial to that 2x pot shove with AK to bluff AK off a chop: https://youtu.be/xUMt--bML6o?t=9837
10-08-2019
, 01:10 PM