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07-21-2009 , 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnlineHandle
kinda off topic.. but I wonder how much Nosebleed omaha players think about card removal..as it relates to their opponents range.. and postflop how it relates to how many outs they have.. especially 9 handed when so much of deck has been dealt..like do certain hands... high wrap cards qjt9 for instance.. go up in value after a bunch of people have folded to the CO, while other types of hands.. play better if bunch of callers bec. more likely to flop well... like DB always flops bottom set in huge pots.. maybe he plays small pairs in multiway pots because his 4s and 3s are more likely to be live..../railbird analysis
omg
07-21-2009 , 05:57 PM
here's the hsdb report for anyone who hasn't seen it

http://www.highstakesdb.com/1179-dur...-marathon.aspx
07-21-2009 , 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smicser
omg
Idk what you were so offended by. I'm a plo (2-4 and 5-10) player and I will normally try (when in position) figure out if a small wrap hand like 3456 is going to get me in a favorable situation.
I would rather have 5678 ds'd than aakk ns's in a lot of scenarios especially when people aren't gambling pre flop. i am going lose a huge pot with big hand and win a small amount w the overpairs a lot of the time.
Trying to find out your opponents range and manipulate it is exactly what plo is.
If you can put your opponent on big pairs, life is good and its ez game
07-21-2009 , 07:06 PM
Thinking your more likely to hit the flop is silly esspecally in the 9 handed your talking about, even if you think that your opponents are only going to play high cards, their folded/mucked cards dont go back into the deck and even if you have a large amount of callers 9 hand still gunna have about half the table folded.

Last edited by Prettycool; 07-21-2009 at 07:09 PM. Reason: Spelling (im realy bad at it)
07-21-2009 , 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie29
Idk what you were so offended by. I'm a plo (2-4 and 5-10) player and I will normally try (when in position) figure out if a small wrap hand like 3456 is going to get me in a favorable situation.
I would rather have 5678 ds'd than aakk ns's in a lot of scenarios especially when people aren't gambling pre flop. i am going lose a huge pot with big hand and win a small amount w the overpairs a lot of the time.
Trying to find out your opponents range and manipulate it is exactly what plo is.
If you can put your opponent on big pairs, life is good and its ez game
^^^^ 100# correct ^^^^
07-21-2009 , 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie29
Idk what you were so offended by. I'm a plo (2-4 and 5-10) player and I will normally try (when in position) figure out if a small wrap hand like 3456 is going to get me in a favorable situation.
I would rather have 5678 ds'd than aakk ns's in a lot of scenarios especially when people aren't gambling pre flop. i am going lose a huge pot with big hand and win a small amount w the overpairs a lot of the time.
Trying to find out your opponents range and manipulate it is exactly what plo is.
If you can put your opponent on big pairs, life is good and its ez game
I think the point is that the nosebleed players are going to be incredibly sick at PLO and trying to figure out their play (in NVG of all places) is not going to get you anywhere. Of course they take card removal into account. They are some of the best players in the world at PLO (at least online) and so its pretty rare that someone like you could think of a concept that wouldn't go through their head when they are playing.

Hope this post wasn't offensive at all, bit drunk.
07-21-2009 , 08:09 PM
Ansky up around 75k on CADX2 so far after 3 tabling him 50/100 HUNL for the past 2.5 hours, according to PTR
07-21-2009 , 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by uistbhoy
Ansky up around 75k on CADX2 so far after 3 tabling him 50/100 HUNL for the past 2.5 hours, according to PTR
was this one of the arranged matches for 2m2mm?
07-21-2009 , 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by uistbhoy
here's the hsdb report for anyone who hasn't seen it

http://www.highstakesdb.com/1179-dur...-marathon.aspx
more insane plo pleez
07-22-2009 , 12:54 AM
funny they didnt show results for Gus or Urindanger.
07-22-2009 , 01:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by profesh railbird
funny they didnt show results for Gus or Urindanger.
thats because they not were amongst the top winners or losers
07-22-2009 , 01:30 AM
HSDB is down lol. too much action
07-22-2009 , 01:35 AM
PLO 2/4

Gus, Zig, Urin, howisitfeellike and Ashby
07-22-2009 , 01:37 AM
you got it covered dtat?
07-22-2009 , 01:58 AM
no you got it
07-22-2009 , 02:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtat0529
no you got it
sry man, i was just gonna post them but my ft crashed, f update
07-22-2009 , 02:14 AM
Richard Ashby is running pretty good again at the higher stakes (2/4PLO, 400-800 7Game). Wouldn't be suprised if he had another 2.3 million year.
07-22-2009 , 02:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by uistbhoy
sry man, i was just gonna post them but my ft crashed, f update
I can post for a while.
07-22-2009 , 02:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by worsethangus
I can post for a while.
gogogoogogogo, thx wtg
07-22-2009 , 02:21 AM
Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 4 players
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Brian Townsend (CO): $50272.00
Gus Hansen (BTN): $11673.00
howisitfeellike (SB): $23608.00
Urindanger (BB): $61561.00

Pre Flop: ($880.00)
Brian Townsend raises to $1200, Gus Hansen raises to $4480, 2 folds, Brian Townsend calls $3280

Flop: ($9840.00) 5 9 4 (2 players)
Brian Townsend checks, Gus Hansen checks

Turn: ($9840.00) 6 (2 players)
Brian Townsend bets $9840, Gus Hansen calls $7123 all in

River: ($24086.00) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $24086.00
Brian Townsend shows T 8 A 6 (a pair of Sixes)
Gus Hansen shows Q A 7 8 (a flush, Ace high)
Gus Hansen wins $24084.00
(Rake: $2.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 4 players
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Brian Townsend (BB): $38599.00
Gus Hansen (CO): $24084.00
howisitfeellike (BTN): $23338.00
Urindanger (SB): $61091.00

Pre Flop: ($880.00)
Gus Hansen raises to $800, howisitfeellike calls $800, Urindanger raises to $3880, 1 fold, Gus Hansen calls $3080, howisitfeellike raises to $16200, Urindanger calls $12320, Gus Hansen calls $12320

Flop: ($49280.00) 6 7 A (3 players)
Urindanger bets $44821 all in, Gus Hansen calls $7814 all in, howisitfeellike calls $7068 all in

Turn: ($71976.00) 2 (3 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($71976.00) 8 (3 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $71976.00
Gus Hansen shows 2 4 2 6 (three of a kind, Twos)
howisitfeellike shows A A 9 6 (three of a kind, Aces)
Urindanger shows T 7 Q K (a pair of Sevens)
Gus Hansen wins $1492.00
howisitfeellike wins $70482.00
(Rake: $2.00)
07-22-2009 , 02:23 AM
Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Richard Ashby (CO): $51684.50
SirWatts (BTN): $12400.00
Gus Hansen (SB): $54556.50
Ziigmund (BB): $133965.00
Urindanger (UTG): $31497.00
howisitfeellike (MP): $27785.00

Pre Flop: ($600.00)
Urindanger raises to $1200, 1 fold, Richard Ashby calls $1200, 1 fold, Gus Hansen calls $1000, Ziigmund raises to $6000, Urindanger calls $4800, Richard Ashby calls $4800, Gus Hansen calls $4800

Flop: ($24000.00) 2 J 8 (4 players)
Gus Hansen checks, Ziigmund requests TIME, Ziigmund checks, Urindanger bets $24000, Richard Ashby folds, Gus Hansen folds, Ziigmund raises to $48000, Urindanger calls $1497 all in

Turn: ($74994.00) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($74994.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $74994.00
Ziigmund shows A 8 Q K (two pair, Eights and Twos)
Urindanger shows Q 7 9 J (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
Urindanger wins $74991.00
(Rake: $3.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 5 players
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Brian Townsend (BTN): $36637.00
Gus Hansen (SB): $24667.50
Richard Ashby (BB): $22222.00
howisitfeellike (UTG): $70412.00
Urindanger (CO): $36937.00

Pre Flop: ($950.00)
howisitfeellike raises to $800, 2 folds, Gus Hansen calls $600, Richard Ashby calls $400

Flop: ($2750.00) 2 6 5 (3 players)
Gus Hansen bets $2750, Richard Ashby requests TIME, Richard Ashby raises to $11000, howisitfeellike folds, Gus Hansen raises to $23797.50 all in, Richard Ashby calls $10352 all in

Turn: ($45454.00) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($45454.00) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $45454.00
Gus Hansen shows 5 6 3 5 (a full house, Sixes full of Fives)
Richard Ashby shows 7 4 8 K (a flush, King high)
Gus Hansen wins $45452.00
(Rake: $2.00)
07-22-2009 , 02:25 AM
Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 3 players
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Gus Hansen (SB): $42437.00
Urindanger (BB): $34259.50
Brian Townsend (BTN): $43299.00

Pre Flop: ($810.00)
1 fold, Gus Hansen raises to $1410, Urindanger raises to $4440, Gus Hansen calls $3030

Flop: ($9090.00) 9 T T (2 players)
Gus Hansen checks, Urindanger checks

Turn: ($9090.00) 5 (2 players)
Gus Hansen checks, Urindanger bets $5600, Gus Hansen calls $5600

River: ($20290.00) 8 (2 players)
Gus Hansen bets $20290, Urindanger raises to $24149.50 all in, Gus Hansen calls $3859.50

Final Pot: $68589.00
Urindanger shows Q 8 J T (a full house, Tens full of Eights)
Urindanger wins $68588.00
(Rake: $1.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Richard Ashby (UTG): $45684.50
SirWatts (MP): $12400.00
Gus Hansen (CO): $36356.50
Ziigmund (BTN): $115065.00
Urindanger (SB): $74591.00
howisitfeellike (BB): $27785.00

Pre Flop: ($600.00)
Richard Ashby calls $400, 1 fold, Gus Hansen raises to $1800, Ziigmund raises to $6400, 3 folds, Gus Hansen calls $4600

Flop: ($13800.00) 9 7 7 (2 players)
Gus Hansen checks, Ziigmund bets $13800, Gus Hansen raises to $29956.50 all in, Ziigmund calls $16156.50

Turn: ($73713.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($73713.00) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $73713.00
Gus Hansen shows T 8 T J (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
Ziigmund shows K K J J (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
Ziigmund wins $73710.00
(Rake: $3.00)
07-22-2009 , 02:27 AM
Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 6 players
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Brian Townsend (MP): $44134.00
Gus Hansen (CO): $46627.50
Richard Ashby (BTN): $14310.00
SirWatts (SB): $19530.00
howisitfeellike (BB): $69472.00
Urindanger (UTG): $36797.00

Pre Flop: ($1020.00)
2 folds, Gus Hansen raises to $1820, 1 fold, SirWatts raises to $6280, 1 fold, Gus Hansen calls $4460

Flop: ($13380.00) 6 6 8 (2 players)
SirWatts bets $4400, Gus Hansen raises to $26580, SirWatts calls $8780 all in

Turn: ($39740.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($39740.00) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $39740.00
Gus Hansen shows 9 8 7 7 (a straight, Ten high)
SirWatts shows A T A K (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Gus Hansen wins $39737.00
(Rake: $3.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 3 players
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Gus Hansen (BB): $37808.50
Urindanger (BTN): $42659.00
howisitfeellike (SB): $19530.00

Pre Flop: ($810.00)
Urindanger raises to $1200, howisitfeellike calls $1000, Gus Hansen calls $800

Flop: ($3810.00) 3 J 4 (3 players)
howisitfeellike checks, Gus Hansen checks, Urindanger checks

Turn: ($3810.00) 9 (3 players)
howisitfeellike bets $3810, Gus Hansen calls $3810, Urindanger calls $3810

River: ($15240.00) 7 (3 players)
howisitfeellike checks, Gus Hansen bets $15240, Urindanger calls $15240, howisitfeellike calls $14450 all in

Final Pot: $60170.00
Gus Hansen shows 4 T 8 Q (a straight, Jack high)
howisitfeellike shows T 8 K Q (a straight, Jack high)
Gus Hansen wins $1580.00
howisitfeellike wins $29294.50
Gus Hansen wins $29294.50
(Rake: $1.00)
07-22-2009 , 02:29 AM
Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 3 players
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Gus Hansen (SB): $48363.00
Urindanger (BB): $22339.00
howisitfeellike (BTN): $29294.50

Pre Flop: ($810.00)
howisitfeellike raises to $1200, Gus Hansen calls $1000, Urindanger raises to $5010, howisitfeellike calls $3810, Gus Hansen calls $3810

Flop: ($15240.00) A Q J (3 players)
Gus Hansen checks, Urindanger bets $9200, howisitfeellike calls $9200, Gus Hansen folds

Turn: ($33640.00) K (2 players)
Urindanger bets $8059 all in, howisitfeellike calls $8059

River: ($49758.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $49758.00
Urindanger shows Q Q 9 2 (three of a kind, Queens)
howisitfeellike shows J T 3 Q (a straight, Ace high)
howisitfeellike wins $49757.00
(Rake: $1.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Richard Ashby (BB): $41484.50
SirWatts (UTG): $10800.00
Ziigmund (CO): $151818.50
Urindanger (BTN): $76589.00
howisitfeellike (SB): $31183.00

Pre Flop: ($600.00)
1 fold, Ziigmund raises to $1400, Urindanger calls $1400, 2 folds

Flop: ($3400.00) A T 8 (2 players)
Ziigmund bets $2400, Urindanger raises to $7200, Ziigmund raises to $25000, Urindanger raises to $75189 all in, Ziigmund calls $50189

Turn: ($153778.00) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($153778.00) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $153778.00
Ziigmund shows Q K J K (a straight, Ace high)
Urindanger shows T 9 T J (three of a kind, Tens)
Ziigmund wins $153776.00
(Rake: $2.00)
07-22-2009 , 02:31 AM
Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $70 Ante - 5 players
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Brian Townsend (CO): $41834.00
Richard Ashby (BTN): $20956.00
SirWatts (SB): $21137.00
howisitfeellike (BB): $64172.00
Urindanger (UTG): $35047.00

Pre Flop: ($950.00)
2 folds, Richard Ashby raises to $1750, SirWatts raises to $6000, 1 fold, Richard Ashby calls $4250

Flop: ($12750.00) Q J J (2 players)
SirWatts bets $4000, Richard Ashby raises to $14886 all in, SirWatts calls $10886

Turn: ($42522.00) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($42522.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $42522.00
Richard Ashby shows Q 6 K K (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
SirWatts shows 5 A K A (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
SirWatts wins $42520.00
(Rake: $2.00)

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Full Tilt Poker $200/$400 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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Richard Ashby (SB): $41084.50
SirWatts (BB): $10800.00
Ziigmund (UTG): $229005.50
Urindanger (CO): $14000.00
howisitfeellike (BTN): $30983.00

Pre Flop: ($600.00)
2 folds, howisitfeellike raises to $800, Richard Ashby calls $600, SirWatts calls $400

Flop: ($2400.00) 5 J 4 (3 players)
Richard Ashby checks, SirWatts checks, howisitfeellike checks

Turn: ($2400.00) 7 (3 players)
Richard Ashby checks, SirWatts bets $2000, howisitfeellike raises to $8400, Richard Ashby folds, SirWatts raises to $10000 all in, howisitfeellike calls $1600

River: ($22400.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $22400.00
SirWatts shows J J 5 3 (a flush, Jack high)
howisitfeellike shows 9 8 4 A (a flush, Ten high)
SirWatts wins $22398.00
(Rake: $2.00)

      
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