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08-24-2008 , 09:20 AM
hopefully the community has some kind of security cameras that caught something.
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08-24-2008 , 10:05 AM
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I'm not saying it didn't happen. Just saying it smells like something a big time loan shark would do to get back his money. "Pay me what you owe me or I send some guys over to take all your ****!"
.... or a scene fromk Risky Business ?

This sounds like some real BS, no reflection on Hoyt necessarily. There is no way anyone cleaned out a house and made off with three cars with no one seing anything .... not even a moving van.)
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08-24-2008 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NickStam
hopefully the community has some kind of security cameras that caught something.
Yeah, i was thinking this. surely they will..
Looks like the house is pretty trashed up by the look of the pictures as well.
lol @ the wall being low enough to jump though - not really relevant to this case when they got away with a piano!!
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08-24-2008 , 10:29 AM
Hoyt is busto.

Insurance scam FTW!
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08-24-2008 , 10:47 AM
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08-24-2008 , 10:48 AM
you know this really is a shame, Hoyt seems to be a really nice guy. All class if you ask me.
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08-24-2008 , 11:38 AM
gavin on on the prr episode w/chino rheem hypothesizes that it could possibly be someone hoyt had a failed relationship with who lived in the house, and obv knew his whereabouts etc.
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08-24-2008 , 12:25 PM
We went by the property yesterday. Definitely an inside job. Once the perpetrators broke into the house, they probably just loaded up the truck, the jeep, and the bike, and then started 'em up and drove 'em out. They keys to the vehicles were inside the house. There are hundreds of homes inside Spanish Trails. Once your in, your in. Getting away is as easy as driving out the front gate. There are no security guards checking outgoing traffic. Hoyt is such a nice guy. He lies low, loves to camp and fish, and stays out of trouble. Hoyt isn't the kind of poker player who owes anyone - since he doesn't gamble on casino pit games, sports, or horses.
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08-24-2008 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by snagglepuss
he should have never gotten involved in the hinkley cold storage heist with mr. henry
Aren't Bottle Rocket references too obscure for NVG?
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08-24-2008 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
Aren't Bottle Rocket references too obscure for NVG?
Come on now -- I know you have a low opinion of NVG but they used to show it on Comedy Central a ton
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08-24-2008 , 03:45 PM
Sad story, gl Hoyt
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08-24-2008 , 04:29 PM
If they don't have any strong leads or arrests by now, I doubt that he will get one single item back...

I am surprised that there has not been any new news today.
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08-24-2008 , 05:01 PM
Meh, you'd be surprised.
In the mid 1980's, my dad had two gun safes ripped off containing upwards of 60 guns. He was getting them back piecemeal well into the late 1990's and got the last one in 2002.

If Hoyt was smart and kept good insurance records, he at least has a chance for some of it- the WSOP bracelets, assuming they don't wind up getting melted, are obviously impossible to sell on the open market. Lets say one of the WSOP bracelets winds up collecting dust in some random display case in a Tahoe antique/collectible shop; someone buys it without any idea of what they really have or that it's been stolen. They ebay it as "genuine poker championship bracelet" a few years from now... He'll get it back.

Last edited by Watchmaker; 08-24-2008 at 05:06 PM.
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08-24-2008 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Watchmaker
Meh, you'd be surprised.
In the mid 1980's, my dad had two gun safes ripped off containing upwards of 60 guns. He was getting them back piecemeal well into the late 1990's and got the last one in 2002.

If Hoyt was smart and kept good insurance records, he at least has a chance for some of it- the WSOP bracelets, assuming they don't wind up getting melted, are obviously impossible to sell on the open market. Lets say one of the WSOP bracelets winds up collecting dust in some random display case in a Tahoe antique/collectible shop; someone buys it without any idea of what they really have or that it's been stolen. They ebay it as "genuine poker championship bracelet" a few years from now... He'll get it back.
Ted Forrest supposedly had a couple WSOP bracelets stolen from him 10+ years ago and I don't think he has those back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Forrest
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08-24-2008 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NicksDad1970
Ted Forrest supposedly had a couple WSOP bracelets stolen from him 10+ years ago and I don't think he has those back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Forrest

Layne Flack also has 2 of his missing:

One was in a safe at Hellmuth's house and the safe got stolen. The other was left at Ted's house and Ted can't find it.
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08-24-2008 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by trixiemt75
I just spent the whole day at Hoyt's house. LV crime unit was out finger printing and taking pictures. They also have an alert out to the pawn shops for the bracelets and rare coins taken. I have pictures as well which should go up on poker news. I can tell you that Hoyt is devastated by this. The news stations were out, but amazingly enough, not allowed on Spanish Trails property. Though, someone came in and drove out his Jeep, Harley, and Denali.
Gotta Lara
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08-24-2008 , 06:44 PM
I heard about this on PRR. Apparently the thieves even took his clothes and cutlery! I lean towards it being an inside job, and I definitely agree that this has to do with something personal. No random thief would go through this much trouble to hurt Hoyt. This is so lame. I hope we continue to get news updates. Oh, did this ever make the news?
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08-24-2008 , 06:59 PM
You have a finger man or lady, and a gang that does the ripoff. The finger or idea person was someone who knew Hoyt, and had a want to hurt him. They had been inside the house. Taking hot stuff that won't move reeks of vengenge. Hoyt appears to be a well-mannered gentleman. I'd lay boxcar odds the finger man or lady is 1.) an ex ole lady or 2.) someone from the poker world. Am I right???

I had a burglary where they took clothes, jewelry, guns, all appliances. Played lucky. Nobody, nobody needs all the crap, stuff folks have. I do not like buying stuff although I have considered getting a couch. Money is more comforting that the crap, stuff it will buy. Book that.

I lived in a lot of furnished apartments, houses where we ran poker games and had to be ready to move on. What you own owns you. Beware of stuff. What you own owns you.

Johnny Hughes

Last edited by Johnny Hughes; 08-24-2008 at 07:02 PM. Reason: more stuff about stuff.
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08-24-2008 , 07:15 PM
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I'd lay boxcar odds the finger man or lady is 1.) an ex ole lady or 2.) someone from the poker world. Am I right???

I had a burglary where they took clothes, jewelry, guns, all appliances. Played lucky. Nobody, nobody needs all the crap, stuff folks have. I do not like buying stuff although I have considered getting a couch. Money is more comforting that the crap, stuff it will buy. Book that.

I lived in a lot of furnished apartments, houses where we ran poker games and had to be ready to move on. What you own owns you. Beware of stuff. What you own owns you.

Johnny Hughes

I had a dog once, name was Bingo, B I N G O, B I N G O, B I N G O and Bingo was his name although I have considered getting a cat.

Beware of stuff that Nurse Ratchet tries to give you, Chief. I like JuicyFruit.
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08-24-2008 , 07:19 PM
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Was this guy seen in the area by any chance?

"In times of economic hardship, never f**k with a man's livelihood."

I am pretty sure he got whacked on the last season of the Sopranos.
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08-24-2008 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NicksDad1970
Ted Forrest supposedly had a couple WSOP bracelets stolen from him 10+ years ago and I don't think he has those back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Forrest
Yeah, it's definitely far from a lock that he'll get them back. Just sayin' there's definitely a chance. All it will take is for one thing from the burglary to turn up somewhere and the 'reverse chain of custody' investigation can get hot fast.

Dad wound up getting 50% of his guns back over time.
One of them had to be destroyed- the $12,000 Kreighoff skeet shotgun that a couple of ******s paid $100 for and promptly hacksawed off it to about 10", thus rendering it illegal.
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08-24-2008 , 07:32 PM
nice i hate that guy
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08-24-2008 , 07:50 PM
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could it be his Landscapers or pool guys
im gonna go w pool guy as #1 suspect. landscapers out here are cute little mexicans but pool guys can look hella shady.
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08-24-2008 , 07:53 PM
as far as neighbors seeing stuff, i have lived in two upscale communities since being here and people tend to stay to themselves. also the housing market is LOADED w foreclosures so a decent % of homes are either 100% vacant or occupied by people who recently swooped in.
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08-24-2008 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
You have a finger man or lady, and a gang that does the ripoff. The finger or idea person was someone who knew Hoyt, and had a want to hurt him. They had been inside the house. Taking hot stuff that won't move reeks of vengenge. Hoyt appears to be a well-mannered gentleman. I'd lay boxcar odds the finger man or lady is 1.) an ex ole lady or 2.) someone from the poker world. Am I right???

I had a burglary where they took clothes, jewelry, guns, all appliances. Played lucky. Nobody, nobody needs all the crap, stuff folks have. I do not like buying stuff although I have considered getting a couch. Money is more comforting that the crap, stuff it will buy. Book that.

I lived in a lot of furnished apartments, houses where we ran poker games and had to be ready to move on. What you own owns you. Beware of stuff. What you own owns you.

Johnny Hughes
good thing it isn't like 1920 anymore and most people actually like having somewhere nice to sit in their house/apartments
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