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03-17-2020 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hundrye
The OLD TIME GIN mentioned in the video was regarding another site. Pokerstars old time gin never used RTA. Fairly reliable way to see who did and didn't cheat is by trying to transfer people money.

Also quite silly to complain about Pokerstars specifically, because they have been by far the best site in catching people who use RTA.
So I guess he was a cheater on one site, but not on another
If I was pokerstars I would create my own bots really...
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03-17-2020 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Vortigern
So I guess he was a cheater on one site, but not on another
If I was pokerstars I would create my own bots really...
It was someone else using that screen name on another site

Last edited by Hundrye; 03-17-2020 at 01:09 PM.
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04-01-2020 , 09:10 AM
So after chating with pokerstars..All is was informed was the not so unexpected. I wasn't cheated (of course, what else?) but then i resent them a message and told them: So what you are telling me is that I was never played vs a bot.NEVER?

And their respond was that I wasn't harmed by any means. WTF????

So today i played with a bot whith something like '1123412667124' and while he was playing the typical "HU,GTOMohamedbruceLee" style when it won the first match ,wants to rematch..OK so I rematch, he is sitting out! I steal his BBs till it loses and then accepts rematch LOL and plays again LOL.

NO DEAR Pokerstars , there are no bots on your site.They can't harm me I guess!
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04-01-2020 , 12:31 PM
Same people/person as mentioned in the thread playing on pp again and or still right now. Nothing really changed imo
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04-01-2020 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by alberthofmann
Same people/person as mentioned in the thread playing on pp again and or still right now. Nothing really changed imo
I hope they **** die then!
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04-20-2020 , 11:28 AM
Are they just in highstakes? I play $7 hypers on ps, so I can sleep well at night that everything is ok?
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04-20-2020 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hector quadros
Are they just in highstakes? I play $7 hypers on ps, so I can sleep well at night that everything is ok?
I dunno if you play 7$ Games for a living prolly can’t sleep ok......
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06-25-2020 , 05:21 AM
My question is how do these guys manage to get accounts verified to play on a site in the first place? Most sites these days want proof of identity and address before they even consider letting you withdraw. If they're using VPNs and playing from Bulgaria, how do they produce documents showing they live somewhere else?

Also, wouldn't it raise massive red flags if some guy goes from being a normal HUSNG player to 6-tabling the highest stakes while making 100% perfect decisions for 12 hours at a time?
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06-25-2020 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
My question is how do these guys manage to get accounts verified to play on a site in the first place? Most sites these days want proof of identity and address before they even consider letting you withdraw. If they're using VPNs and playing from Bulgaria, how do they produce documents showing they live somewhere else?
This stuff is pretty easy to forge, or easy to obtain/buy if you know people from there or whatever.
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06-27-2020 , 10:00 AM
Hey, just played a 500$ turbo husng on party and googled my opponent while playing.
Played against "manoleke" and he was 3 tabling same time vs vbv.
While googling I found his SN on page 12 in this thead listed as a detected gto bot user. This was in 2019 when this got exposed. Why is this guy stil playing? Does party do anything about bots? How is the current situation?
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06-28-2020 , 01:44 PM
I can't sit thru that video.
Can someone summarize the video ?
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06-28-2020 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by legionrainfall
I can't sit thru that video.

Can someone summarize the video ?
There's a couch and some guy comes and sits on it and they all these questions for him that are pretty inapropriate imo and then they start getting him to do stuff with the promise of a job and I don't know I've watched it numerous times but always finish around that spot
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06-28-2020 , 02:48 PM
Following!
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06-28-2020 , 03:09 PM
And one more question..Or just better food for thought.
If people can make bots, i'm sure sites like stars etc can also create ones.And the +side of that is that they still don't have to make winning bots...They afford to be only break even ones!

Last edited by Vortigern; 06-28-2020 at 03:15 PM.
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06-30-2020 , 11:44 PM
Can someone explain what the players are actually doing when they use ai programs? Someone said they usually are using a 2nd computer and something mentioning of screen scraping. I have no idea what that is.


But does this mean players can literally display their stack size and everything and all the players stacks and hud etc on the table and that ai program basically tells them exactly what to do such as fold, call or raise and raise how much? So when they are in a pot against another player or many players, it will basically tell them exactly what to do? So basically the player is just copying what that ai program tells them to bet etc?


If so, how is that even allowed and why can't sites find out about those players?
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07-01-2020 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Can someone explain what the players are actually doing when they use ai programs? Someone said they usually are using a 2nd computer and something mentioning of screen scraping. I have no idea what that is.


But does this mean players can literally display their stack size and everything and all the players stacks and hud etc on the table and that ai program basically tells them exactly what to do such as fold, call or raise and raise how much? So when they are in a pot against another player or many players, it will basically tell them exactly what to do? So basically the player is just copying what that ai program tells them to bet etc?


If so, how is that even allowed and why can't sites find out about those players?
It's obviously not allowed but it's hard to detect. I will not go into details how I think they do it, but having your pc screen copied to another machine, which is not even connected to the internet and has no ps installed, is one of the easiest tasks... U don't need to be a it genius to do that.

So they just run the software on the other pc, have a monitor right next to their poker setup and see the gto advice.

U can't do much against it. Only way sites will try is to do statistical analysis on the player. They prob already have the gto solutions themselves and then they just see how much a player differs from these solutions.

Tbh I think it's 100% undetectedable, if it's done really good. You could just randomly deviate from gto to make yourself look more legit.

It's actually fuc ked up. Games eventually will be unbeatable and poker will become a slot like game with no edge against other players. At least in the higher stakes.

Nl25 will prob always be beatable but u can't live of that.
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09-13-2020 , 11:17 AM
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09-14-2020 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
lmao excellent
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09-14-2020 , 04:42 PM
That is brilliant haha
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09-16-2020 , 03:28 AM
is this happening in PLO HUSNGs as well?
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09-17-2020 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PointlessWords
is this happening in PLO HUSNGs as well?
It's happening at every single game ever invented that is played for money, and most of the games that aren't.
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09-17-2020 , 09:55 AM
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ealed-1777912/
still going strong on WPN as well
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09-23-2020 , 01:46 AM
Hi Xrab it’s shipallin1 here. You may not remember me but we played some HU hypers in October last year on the ipoker network my username was shipallin1. We played between €200-€5000 sit and go’s and we spoke in the table chat a bit. I used to say if I lost I would move to the next stake upwards. And so this led to us playing some €5000 games when you kept beating me. I have hand histories of us playing to prove it was me and I am just wondering if we can talk. Thanks shipallin1
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08-18-2021 , 07:25 PM
hello I'm waiting for information about some bot players that are in unibet in sit and go heads up .. of 100 and 200 but they are taking a while to send it to me I need to know if someone has any files with the users who are acting with bot on that site already that I was scammed by some unibet bots and until I sent proof they do not accept my claim because it says they do not find anything strange in those players and I know they are bot
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08-22-2021 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
For HU even undergrads can write gto bots as a student project.
I quit playing years ago and went into programming. Just for fun, I wrote a script that swiped all the charts from PLO matrix and parsed them into a compressed format. Then I made a program which used ocr to figure out your hand, position and previous actions and then displayed the correct preflop action in a HUD.

This took me 2 days. Knowing how easy it is to create software like this, as long as you have the solutions, is enough for me to never take poker seriously again
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