What kind of reaction would make you think someone is clean after being falsely accused?
Wouldn't you defend yourself if you were put on a list where you clearly don't belong?

You are right about the others though, and I can't wait for the 1st proof of HU SNG either.

Yes sir, me and the pokerstars regulars (loveplus, vladxxxro and me) are desperately waiting for that "irrefutable evidence"! go go go lol, let me guess? u have none?

G20 guy beeing a bot was already confirmed in another thread, also pifagor iirc.

also interesting how all of the sudden the 1 post accounts come out to "defend" themselves. blabla

How about one that acknowledges that there is an issue at large?
One were you dont just defend yourself but also show that you yourself are concerned?

Pokerplayers are scared of playing against bots.
You are scared of being accused a botter.
Why arent you scared about bots?

All you supposed HU-Regs have done in this thread is to call out the people who are legitimately concerned about online poker. The thing you make your money with. And instead of joining the investigations and helping them with your insights, you ridicule them and call them names?

Im not one to accuse lightly. But the responses by supposed HU regs in this thread make you guys seem SHAAAAAAAAAAADY as ****. I dont care for any list, but if the people on said list make responses like you guys did...

Its not like we work for the security teams to know 100% sure who is botting and who is not. The only thing,we stars regulars know, is that we aint banned, aint cheating and thats why we responded to a false accusation.

The list of the players who aint playing on stars/pp are allready given, by Banbots/xrab. The ones not responding to a false accusation is more"SHAAAAAAAAAAADY as ****" isnt it?

Also ofcourse we gave our insights to the pokersites whenever we thought someone was really suspicious. Thats all we can do. Report and hope for the best.

Scared for the bots? Its not that we are scared but just like I hate someone accusing me false, i dont want to accuse someone else false. Let the Pokersites do their job in banning the cheaters!

Just stfu with your bs. If ure the real dubbelfr then u at least use illegal seating scripts, so just stop with the bs that ure clean.

Obviously no one likes to be accused falsely and you are perfectly fine to defend yourself.

However and this also pissed me off in the Mike Postle Thread:

Accusations are precisely what you do when you cant prove anything but suspect something. This is something you should not only be allowed to do, but in fact you need to be encouraged to do it. Because it is the only way for you to raise awareness about the potential issue and get those people involved who could in fact prove it.

Speaking of Mike Postle, how exactly did he get caught?
Someone was suspicious, then made an accusation which then lead into an investigation which likely results in a sentence.

How did the UB Superuser get caught?
Because the pokersite did an awesome job.
Oh no wait, some pro was suspicious, then made an accusation which then lead into an investigation which turned out to prove the accusation.

Does this mean any accusation leads into prove? Of course not, but it is, especially in our burocratic world, one of the few ways how a non-insider can invoke change. Change that makes the world better for anyone who isnt in on it (supposedly you).

If you dont understand why this is sooo insanely important to allow people to accuse and why it is actually good that you are accused (because it allows you to clear yourself and helps showing how the games on stars are still clean), then you are either stupid, ignorant or in on it.

... just read this:

Yes, let them do the job.... HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ANYONE WITHOUT PROVE.

The worst part is, you dont even realise how much worse this attitude makes our world. Just looking at corrupt politicians, corporations, state workers...

Yo! I’m Currr and I would like to bring some clarity by current situation in this post. At first, I want to mention right away that it was not me who leaked the information about the xrab and his group, there is no sense for me to do it.
I can confirm that chronology of events in the war of bot in xrab’s post is generally true. I do not hide the fact that I used helper against the same bot as me. But I’m confused that so many of those who did the same thing now are trying to show themselves innocent and at the same time blame me behind my back. I’d like to share some data about members of pokerstars cartel. In fact, quite a lot of people have this information and it is strange that it appears only now.
In 2018 55-215$ hypers and turbo at partypoker were totally hosted by the Sauron Team: Saayron1, BermundoX, Rocks99999, Pifagor2. Our group wanted to know them out and we played really a lot of games against them. Nearly 500 tournaments every day. At the same time pokerstars cartel began to loose lobby at 109-215 turbo against bots with -5 chips per 100 hands. Then vladxxxro aksed me for help and I gave him helper for a small fee. For me it was win-win situation because he was helping against Sauron and I have some extra income. After Sauron’s accounts had been banned, they stopped using my helper at PP. But recently vladxxxro asked me for helper to crush his former cartel friend Igor Zverev. And I gave him this opportunity for 5k$. vladxxxro boasted to me that he had won over 20k$ from Igor Zverev (buzcaky). And it looks like that he was banned at 888 after that.

This is the last post I will write here because it seems that people doesnt want to listen or understand.

There has to be a reason why to accuse someone right? This guy said that we are banned on partypoker because? O yeah because that screenname isnt playing on pp anymore. Isnt he informed that on pp everybody had to change their names? Its not like u cant accuse me of something if lets say i would been banned by pokerstars and not on pp. Thats a reason to accuse me but the “evidence” he gave is just spewy without any evidence or knowledge of what is happening. Usually those players are ex- botters or some frustrated old regs who couldnt beat the game anymore.

Also the fact that he mentioned vladxxxro/omgina/“skaiwalkur”,i mean the guy doesnt even play on pp AT ALL! Thats super funny. Same for lafleur/loveplus. All bullcrap.

Not sure why 2+2 havent deleted/edited his post after I sent them a screenshot of my account.

To compare his post and the mike postle thing is like comparing an skoda with an ferarri since there is so much evidence that mike postle apparently cheated, then its normal to accuse someone.

Then this other einstein accusing me of using an “illegal seating script”. I mean lol dont u think pokerstars wouldnt act if i was using one?

I also see that people are making new accounts to spew bullshit here like this last post “curr” who posted. They can do the **** the want.

Hey guys iam working on a homepage to publicly shame these people. Forgot his name but I rembet for a long time there was these hpabout the guy who scammed people put of wsop staking money. I wanne make smt similar like this.

I already saved a bunch of Fotos fb profiles and other ****. Any information would be appreciated thx

Will be smt like scammersname.to

doubt that you are currr because your english is terrible for a native speaker

Also will not reply here anymore after this. It's easy to be accused by a 1 post account claiming to be currr lol. Why don't you present skype conversations, transactions, screenshots etc? Writing anything is easy.
English is terrible and information is wrong. Last thing I want to add is that my game vs buzcaky has been far from GTO, i'm winning close to 100 chips/game. By botting you can gain 5-10 chips/game and nobody is stupid enough to bot in 2019 on pokerstars. My game is full of mistakes and I sometimes get exploits right, sometimes I don't. This 100 chips/game can not be done by botting, this can only be done by pure skill and getting exploits right more often than wrong. I can share my database with any respectable reg and show the HUD numbers that I had vs buzcaky in these games.
This accusations come from buzcaky, who after losing his bankroll and position in the pokerstars cartel because of me tries to revenge and maybe get me closed so he can start playing poker again. At this moment, he only tries to bumhunt 60-100$ because half of the cartel unshared him. He lost against all the regs he played in the last 2 years: Jblaich, Dawic, dodo-banana crew on chico, russian crew on chico, and latest vs me/pierrec.
This is the last cry of a wounded animal that is dying, moderators please delete the false accusations without evidence. Nice try buzcaky, rest in peace.
Here is the 38k he lost to me in this regwar! Tell me if a bot ever won 38k in 1k turbo games!
https://gyazo.com/505660c5e62ad9334aa23f70a574dcb5

story checks out, posting a link vs the actual image embed code is very un GTO



i'm a neutral party here and don't even play online anymore, but in all seriousness, i think it's commendable some of the parties involved here are discussing it ITT

Specifically, the exceprts below are typical speech patterns and mistakes made by non-fluent English speakers. Also, an American would typically put the $ sign in front of the number instead of after.

Contrast that against the flawless English in this video:

There is so many sick false accusations in this thread recently, I'm going to try to reply since even though i was not accused I do know a lot of the players accused and it really does piss me off.

But let me first clarify "Illegal seating scripts" this is just not true, even though sharkystrator is "Legal" by pokerstars standards the $30s+ Groups have ALL stopped using it (not sure about $15s) we all use the same method to register.. MANUALLY...

There would be ZERO reason to use a seating script if you are in the $100s group (Or any group for that matter) as you would just be wasting money.

Nobody has ever used an illegal seating script and Sharkystrator changed it to obey Pokerstars TOS by not allowing it to see colors and only to sit next available lobby with waitlists.

The legit HUSNG regs on pokerstars have complained about bots many many times to support, basically even if there is a small possibly it was always reported.

And this post can also be debunked from slander or confirmed this is the "real" Currr. I think it should be investigated, those are some very big accusations.

Vlad should contact 2+2 reporting this post.
I'm assuming 2+2 won't release the IP address of the poster however they can work with pokerstars/888 and ask for an IP match of the accusation.

All it takes is for 2+2 to contact Pokerstars with the IP address of the post and to see if it matches one of the players.

They would not have to release any information to the public but I believe if this is a fake accusation it should be removed.

The grammar in the post is not a native English speaker and as a video of CURRRR speaking was posted it's very clearly his either American or Canadian (Not sure where he is from, I don't know him nor have I ever spoke with him)

I'm assuming 2+2 can see the IP address from posts, and for sure Pokerstars can see IP address of logins (If you login from the USA it automatically gives you a warning)

This will never happen, nor should it

Yeah let's suggest that a website start doxxing their users... JFC man...

While I'm not necessarily on board with 2+2 getting involved, I don't see any suggestion that 2+2 dox anyone.

itt a bunch 7 posts accounts calling each other scammer and liar

the most pathetic 'bot thread' ive ever been in

Hi guys! It is true currr didn’t write first post by himself. I did it. I’m an active member of his team in the past and wrote that post with currr permission. I didn’t want to write it behalf of me because I’m noname in husng world. Anyway we have vladxxxro and currr chat but there is also a third party so it would be unethical to reveal them. I can make a video but it is important to hide a third parties info. I have never made something like this before so it would be nice if someone help me to choose a program for it.

I don’t think 2+2 shouldn’t do anything either though, this is the exact same as Pokersites knowing there is botters and allowing them to continue doing what they do basically, you know something is wrong but you keep allowing it.

It’s pretty obvious that some of the posters are not who they say they are and 2+2 decides that it should be allowed.

Let’s start with the basics of this post, Currr has given you permission, if he has given you permission to make that post “pretending” to be him then he should be able to help you create a video as well as Xrab posted

This makes it extremely fishy to me that Currr has given you permission but you are asking others for help on how to make a video, why not ask Currr?

I’m going to help you out anyways you can download a program called Camtasia it's the most popular one.


I’ve also googled for you free solutions.

The best free screen recorders at a glance
1. OBS Studio.
2. FlashBack Express.
3. Apowersoft Free Online Screen Recorder.
4. Debut Video Capture.
5. ShareX.

As I’m sure this won’t happen I’m going to teach you how to screenshot as it’s a very quick method to show proof of your accusations.

HOW TO SCREENSHOT

1. Download Gyazo - https://gyazo.com/
2. Screenshot the page you would like with names for proof.
3. Save image to your hard drive
4. Open “Paint” in windows and edit out the person you want to leave out of this.
You can do this by clicking the Rectangle and go to Fill and click Solid Color
5. Just create a Gyazo of the image again after the information you want blurred out is hidden.

Example:


6. Right click the image and go Copy Image Address
7. Go to 2+2 and post here by pressing Ctrl + V
8. OPTIONAL – If you want you can put [ img ] URL LINK [ /img ] without any spaces.

Wow, big chance everything to be false and ofcourse this mess was intended made.

LaFleur26 was not banned on pp
OMGina different player then the banned pp Skaiwalkurrrrr
mellcool99 different player then pp user lazo133 that was probably banned
doublefresh1 was not banned on pp
HungryBiatch and War0fGoblins are different players and none of them was banned
Tvorogok is different player then G20LLD but big chance to be bot/cheater, same for NWYR1
So just trash, get a life mr HU SNG!

I dont think Skaiwalkurrr is banned either on pokerstars (unless this is not the same nick?) Old HUSNG reg..He was playing on December 1st, 2019

Yeah Skaiwalkurrr, the old reg on stars is not banned, he plays high stakes mtts now mostly when there are series.
Skaiwalkurrr on partypoker was a bot/cheater from optimusprime team.

As if currr would have as a secretary an illiterate. Buzcaky, go grind 15$ on chico, stop poluting this thread with nonsense.