Pure White Magic = Desert Bracelets Quantity

During the one time of the year people give a damn about watching tournament poker.

Desert WSOP bracelets > Euro trash WSOP bracelets.

Benjamins >> bracelets

yah. only penniless drifters win 17 bracelets

Number 17 was one of Phil's biggest scores, at over $800K. And he's obviously not shy about marketing around his WSOP record. But my sarcasm was intended for those who seem to believe that those who have done phenomenally well marketing themselves, like Negreanu, are somehow failures if they don't rack up wins at the WSOP Nevada events, despite great financial reward from the game.

Let’s not forget that Hellmuth collected $3k for every single donk he knocked out on his road to victory.

Does the WSOP do something like a young people event (like max age 25 years)?

We had that during the national poker championships here last year and I thought that was a very nice event to draw people in. I suspect it can be daunting for young people who are interested in the game to play big tournaments knowing that so much of the field have 15+ years of experience.

I think one of the absolute biggest threats to poker long term is if it becomes seen as a stereotypical "old person activity" like for instance bridge - its actually a very good game but for years I personally didnt try it because I associated it with my grandma playing with her neighbors. That is something young people just naturally have an aversion against - being associated with old people. Drawing in young people with tailored events can only be good for the long term health of the game.

The streamer game with MrBeast and stuff was probably one of the best thing to happen to poker recruitment in a long time. Having a "Young people" event and inviting people like MrBeast, XQC and other content creators to try to win a bracelet would be very good for poker. If MrBeast played in the WSOP and won a bracelet that would be absolutely huge.

lady at the ladies ft just open shoved KK with 19bb and my heart skipped a beat

She just shoved the hand before too which adds to context

lol

first abraham 3bet/calls 20bbs with Kjs vs the CL (by far the best player), CL has JJ, abraham hits the 9 on the river for straight and a double up and then next hand gets set over set vs the same opponent. this is crazy. feel bad for okamoto, she's playing great and was running this table.

They should hire some new marketing people then. I havent seen anything from the WSOP to suggest they have anyone working in their marketing team that knows anything about marketing toward the younger generation.

Most young players probably salivate when they see old players at table. The entire thing with really long and multiple days benefits the younger crowd.

qft

Yeah these marketing people suck, all these declining fields and chit

lol

Scotch nvr running one of my businesses

Youngsters can play online if they are scurred of playing with Scott Seiver or Barry Greenstein

I mean we can get on the WSOP for many things, although I personally don’t , I’m always super impressed how relatively flawless so many things are.

But marketing? WSOP might be best marketed brand ever. Fields exploding, people chasing bracelets and not so much the money, people getting their picture in front of the sign.

25 and under seems like much too small of a player pool.

Hendon Mob cashes <$5k or something would be a good one too.

I don’t think poker has been considered an old person activity since around 2004.

in what world do you live in where poker is considered a game for old people (or close to that happening)

All the players that were part of the moneymaker era used to call the up and coming online players the whiz kids. same for GTO players...

Also poker vlogging is becoming very popular nowadays...

It's far from turning out like Bridge, Backgammon or even games like Gin Rummy

So 17 bracelets is pretty scary
But if you dig just a little deeper his dominance is even more impressive

12 runner-up finishes!

Also, 64 final tables
which means if he gets to the final table
there is a 29 out of 64 chance he gets to heads up
None of you were aware of this,
nor would have ever guessed he was just that good at finishing off a tourney

I wasnt a math major in college (actually I was) but I'm pretty sure that's almost 50% of the time

Now just talking about wins, 17 out of 64 is 26%,
If the odds were spread evenly among the 9 final table players he should only win 11%
So he is 2 and a half times more likely to win than the average player.
This isnt luck. He is just the best.

In the WSOP tourney world, there is no one close
Ivey was on pace to pass him up, and do it quickly long ago,
but for whatever reason, he just stopped playing the WSOP for a long long time

You know Phil wants one more Main Event title more than anything else in his life.
It would shut up even the most ignorant, blind-hatred idiots who try to belittle his WSOP resume

I'm not sure which is a worse take, "Robbie cheated!!!!" (despite ZERO evidence) or "Phill's overrated" (despite all the evidence)

Bring it on, talk about his cash game losses or his high roller results, (which arent that bad actually and the sample size is so small there)
but the fact remains for the typical $10K and under tourneys, the guy is unmatched.

Agreed, should be less yapping and more analyzing what he does

People laughed at his fold with the K2 but I actually didn’t think it was bad lol. Ray D probably would have played the same way with JJ and KK in his hand which both made higher fulls. More likely to have those combos than the 24 he had in that double suited low bag hand of 2345 that he actually defended.

He just got to the river in a freak way and had the unlikely holding. But in alternate universe where some random crusher folds the K2 to either KK or JJ which the person usually has he would be praised.

this is like saying he's unmatched in his dominance of microstakes tournies. (obviously not microstakes like online 1 penny/2 penny but capping results at 10k for a buyin really skews the results)

I'm not a phil hater, i could care less but if you want to be considered one of the goats you cant just play small buyin tournies...you have to have a decent track record in all stakes

Not all of his wins had 9 player final tables