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06-01-2023 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Defarse
Nice to see Jake Schindler playing the $25k 6-max
came to post about this and did a search to see if it has been mentioned

the community needs to shame this clown out of Vegas. every time you see him point at him and say "why is Jack Effel allowing known poker cheats to compete?" in a voice loud enough for several tables to hear (or several ppl in the hallway, restaurant, street, etc. to hear)

he's now sitting 8th in chips w nine players remaining in an event w 1.22mm up top. shame the cretin from the premises if the WSOP and Effel aren't going to do whats right for the Series and the community

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06-01-2023 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
came to post about this and did a search to see if it has been mentioned

the community needs to shame this clown out of Vegas. every time you see him point at him and say "why is Jack Effel allowing known poker cheats to compete?" in a voice loud enough for several tables to hear (or several ppl in the hallway, restaurant, street, etc. to hear)

he's now sitting 8th in chips w nine players remaining in an event w 1.22mm up top. shame the cretin from the premises if the WSOP and Effel aren't going to do whats right for the Series and the community

I can’t keep up with all the cheats in poker. What did he do?
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06-01-2023 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
I can’t keep up with all the cheats in poker. What did he do?
Him and Ali multi accounted and used cheating software in the daily 25k high rollers when GG first got big, stealing millions from the high stakes community.

They got banned from Poker Go, Triton and Pokerstars live events. WSOP is the only big series that continues to let them play.
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06-01-2023 , 12:29 PM
Is it cold in tourney area? Do I need a jacket?
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06-01-2023 , 12:40 PM
Can't speak for this year, but played last year. I'm usually a cold person (in every sense of the word), and felt really comfortable with just a long-sleeve T.
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06-01-2023 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sLAG
Is it cold in tourney area? Do I need a jacket?
Usually I’m hot. And I thought it was very cold in cash game area
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06-01-2023 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sLAG
Is it cold in tourney area? Do I need a jacket?

Yes
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06-01-2023 , 06:34 PM
I’ve been seeing a lot of people smoking in the hallways on break and even in the registration line. These are all nonsmoking areas, but security is not doing anything about it.
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06-01-2023 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wsopfinaltable
I’ve been seeing a lot of people smoking in the hallways on break and even in the registration line. These are all nonsmoking areas, but security is not doing anything about it.
That’s bullchit, send a tweet to Effel about it.
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06-01-2023 , 08:22 PM
Chance Kornuth is a beast. Dude doesn’t get enough recognition.

Not a huge fan of the PokerGo coverage again. The GGPoker logo being shown over the community cards is irritating me for some reason.
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06-01-2023 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Noobtard
Him and Ali multi accounted and used cheating software in the daily 25k high rollers when GG first got big, stealing millions from the high stakes community.

They got banned from Poker Go, Triton and Pokerstars live events. WSOP is the only big series that continues to let them play.
1) I get the outrage but it’s a completely different world between online and live poker. They can’t multi account or use cheating software playing live. It’s sort of like suspending a baseball player for marking cards in a gun rummy tournament

2) one site accuses him and the rest of the world (who have no direct evidence of their own) are supposed to fall in line like dominoes?

3) what exactly comprises the “poker community”? Are random 1/2 nlhe players supposed to get in their face? How about the people who got robbed (or think they did) just do something about it

Last edited by ScotchOnDaRocks; 06-01-2023 at 09:19 PM.
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06-01-2023 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Chance Kornuth is a beast. Dude doesn’t get enough recognition.

Not a huge fan of the PokerGo coverage again. The GGPoker logo being shown over the community cards is irritating me for some reason.
Sick call from Chance a few minutes ago on this 25k final on PokerGo.

Is this where to talk about the pokergo stream this year?
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06-01-2023 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
1) I get the outrage but it’s a completely different world between online and live poker. They can’t multi account or use cheating software playing live. It’s sort of like suspending a baseball player for marking cards in a gun rummy tournament

2) one site accuses him and the rest of the world (who have no direct evidence of their own) are supposed to fall in line like dominoes?

3) what exactly comprises the “poker community”? Are random 1/2 nlhe players supposed to get in their face? How about the people who got robbed (or think they did) just do something about it
Oh Hi Jake!
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06-01-2023 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Oh Hi Jake!
Lol except for the part where the people who feel they got robbed should make a new hole in desert
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06-02-2023 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Sick call from Chance a few minutes ago on this 25k final on PokerGo.

Is this where to talk about the pokergo stream this year?
Oh I don’t know, should we start a new thread for that? And I agree on that call! Assuming you’re talking about the king high call he made which was crazy good!
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06-02-2023 , 12:35 AM
memberr when we got free streams
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06-02-2023 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Is this where to talk about the pokergo stream this year?
A few days ago I bumped the "official" 2022 PokerGo WSOP thread, which a PokerGo rep started and said we should use to post all questions/comments. But PokerGo ghosted last year's thread once people started asking for explanations about why there was no coverage of multiple Day 1s of the ME, and telling PokerGo they sucked for not showing the ME and not giving any explanation as to why. So I'm guessing PokerGo is done with 2P2.
PokerGo's 2023 WSOP coverage seems worthy of its own separate thread, but I'm guessing that would go in the Live Streams section and not NVG? Those decisions are above my pay grade.
GL everyone at the 2023 WSOP.
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06-02-2023 , 10:46 AM
The pokergo sweat thread should go in NVG. Not the ghost town streaming section.
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06-02-2023 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
The pokergo sweat thread should go in NVG. Not the ghost town streaming section.
Agreed. I encourage anyone to start such a thread here in NVG.
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06-02-2023 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
Oh Hi Jake!
But you really think Bill Jones from Iowa who’s been saving all year to play a shot at 1K mystery bounty should shout at Jake Schindler because someone told him to?

Sounds bizarre to me
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06-02-2023 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
But you really think Bill Jones from Iowa who’s been saving all year to play a shot at 1K mystery bounty should shout at Jake Schindler because someone told him to?

Sounds bizarre to me
I bet Bill Jones would rather know that he is a proven cheater than not.
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06-02-2023 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
But you really think Bill Jones from Iowa who’s been saving all year to play a shot at 1K mystery bounty should shout at Jake Schindler because someone told him to?

Sounds bizarre to me
Several years ago, I'm standing the reg line for WSOP and I hear a familiar voice behind me.

I turn around, it was Jesus Ferguson. I think this was the year he won WSOP POTY.

According to 2p2 logic, I should have shouted him down and encouraged everyone around me to get their torches and pitchforks out so we could chant "SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME" while chasing him out the RIO while recording the whole ordeal on my gimbal.
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06-02-2023 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
came to post about this and did a search to see if it has been mentioned

the community needs to shame this clown out of Vegas. every time you see him point at him and say "why is Jack Effel allowing known poker cheats to compete?" in a voice loud enough for several tables to hear (or several ppl in the hallway, restaurant, street, etc. to hear)

he's now sitting 8th in chips w nine players remaining in an event w 1.22mm up top. shame the cretin from the premises if the WSOP and Effel aren't going to do whats right for the Series and the community

Probably because there’s no consistent and objective standard of who even cheated and who we’re supposed to witch hunt is subject to the court of Twitter opinion rather than facts.

I personally refuse to take anyone seriously who wants to ban cheaters but doesn’t want to start with Alex and Kristen Foxen. They were literally colluding on video on camera at a live tournament . That to me is 100000x more cause for a ban then “this dude supposedly used poker software while playing online but nobody has any hard evidence “.

Of course the ultimate irony is that Foxen himself kicked off half these witch hunts in an incredibly ironic example of projection. He also accused Ali of cheating for seeing someone’s exposed card (grey zone anyway) and his evidence was that Ali didn’t play like a solver the rest of the hand.

Foxen is a poker savant but a joke outside of his table skills but seems to also be more effective at rallying up internet mobs.

I acknowledge there’s some degree of subjectivity in comparing Foxens cheating to Jakes alleged cheating but if you want Effel to crack down on ge integrity, start by defining fair standards that are consistently applied instead of arbitrarily picking favorites based on who you like more.

A lack of a justice system is better then one that’s based on favoritism and popularity over consistency and fairness.
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06-02-2023 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Manner Please
Probably because there’s no consistent and objective standard of who even cheated and who we’re supposed to witch hunt is subject to the court of Twitter opinion rather than facts.

I personally refuse to take anyone seriously who wants to ban cheaters but doesn’t want to start with Alex and Kristen Foxen. They were literally colluding on video on camera at a live tournament . That to me is 100000x more cause for a ban then “this dude supposedly used poker software while playing online but nobody has any hard evidence “.

Of course the ultimate irony is that Foxen himself kicked off half these witch hunts in an incredibly ironic example of projection. He also accused Ali of cheating for seeing someone’s exposed card (grey zone anyway) and his evidence was that Ali didn’t play like a solver the rest of the hand.

Foxen is a poker savant but a joke outside of his table skills but seems to also be more effective at rallying up internet mobs.

I acknowledge there’s some degree of subjectivity in comparing Foxens cheating to Jakes alleged cheating but if you want Effel to crack down on ge integrity, start by defining fair standards that are consistently applied instead of arbitrarily picking favorites based on who you like more.

A lack of a justice system is better then one that’s based on favoritism and popularity over consistency and fairness.
But did you call the DOJ re: Foxen?
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06-02-2023 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Duke
I bet Bill Jones would rather know that he is a proven cheater than not.
Lol Bill Jones will be fine

Jake probably not going to be in same tournament and even if he was Jake cannot use RTA software against him

Bill Jones doesn’t need to know chit

But he’s supposed to randomly yell at him to preserve the honor of Steven Chidwick (and others?).

Bizarre
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