anyone not notice that phil's main crux is "According to Iran owned news..." that should be the deal breaker right there. kinda like "according to north korean news agency, North Korea wins all gold medals at olympics crushing Americans"

This is why I pretty much quit social media. Everybody has their little opinion they have to voice and they don't want to hear anything but agreement. If you challenge them they will either get mad or rally behind a team of cohorts and try to make you look ignorant and themselves champions of freedom. It is all fairly healthy until someone plays the victims card and next thing you know people are trying to take your job because of some crap you posted after being outraged by an article you read or watched on television.

Still waiting for this thread to be locked up. I know of several IRL friendships already ruined by this topic.

Only doing a disservice to the community by keeping it open, giving it a chance to degenerate.

Only going to add one post to this thread and I haven't read all the comments:

I'm openly willing to share my opinions or views on a wide range of topics. I have opinions just like everyone else, and my association with any company doesn't hold me back from being honest about what I believe.

I understand that some of you who disagree with my position on the Israeli/Palestine conflict have "lost all respect for me," and I'll take full responsibility for that. Anytime you take a position on something, you open yourself up to criticism and that's more than fair. I can take it. Both the good and the bad. I'll never be wish washy, and one thing you will know you'll get from me is honesty and integrity.

As for the conflict, I do not watch Fox News, CNN, or any cable or network news on this matter. The western media isn't shaping my views on this subject. I have some friends who have and do serve in the military, I've done a decent amount of reading on the conflict, and I'm 100% clear on where I stand. No, I'm not FOR the killing of children, and no I am not for genocide. Quite the opposite actually. If Hamas are going to hide their rockets in schools, rockets designed to kill Israeli children and all the rest, then I believe it's Hamas who is putting their own children at risk, and in fact are celebrating these deaths.

People have said, "Look how many Palestinian people have been killed compared to Israelis." Do you not think that Hamas is trying to kill as many as possible? If they could kill more, they would. The fact that Israel is doing a better job protecting it's people only shows that they are both better prepared, and also care more for their citizens. Hamas is killing it's own people. Protestors are being lined up and shot to death by Hamas. Money being sent to them was used not to better the lives of the people, but instead to build tunnels so that Hamas can rape and murder Israelis.

Israel has made peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt and have fully respected those treaties. They have proven again and again to be willing and hopeful for a cease fire. I don't believe Hamas wants peace. I believe they want conflict as it serves their agenda. What is the end goal of Hamas do you think? A two state solution? I don't believe that at all. I believe the goal of groups like Hamas, Al Queda, and Isis are to rid the entire world of all non-Muslims. Not just the Jews, although, that is a good starting point, but all of us. If they have it their way, they will build a new Islamic state on the rubble of cities across the world. That's what I believe. if you choose to see me as a villain for those beliefs, that is your choice.

In closing, I read this quote and it sums up my beliefs perfectly, "If Hamas drops it's weapons, there will be no more war. If Israel drops it's weapons, there will be no more Israel." We are talking about a group of people who not only deny the Holocaust, but will vocally admit that if they have the opportunity, they will create one of their own.

You can hate me if you choose to, but I will ask you if that's logical? We have a difference of opinion on a heated discussion, and I've openly shared my honest views, not from hate, but from what I believe to be true. I respect your right to disagree, and I don't think any less of those who disagree. I certainly don't see any reason to call them idiots or other names.

i seriously hope all you have to contend with is people arguing with your position.
i for one would not be painting a big target on my back you gotta know these people are not internet warriors ..right

leave politics out of poker?

Dnegs - not only are you ignorant, but you're crazy if you think your opinion means enything in this fuced up world. if you had a single true fan, you lost him and greatly harmed your poor career.
But on a bright side, your contract with pokerstars might be renewed, so at least you have that going for you wich is nice.

thanks for ure honest reply Daniel & ure are right on this subject about the war never ending as the quote u said about both sides dropping their weapons..... & thats the whole issue it will never END not in our lifetime or our childrens, BUT violence is never the answer in attack or defence, it only escolates the situation, Some 1 needs to take a stance to stop this terrible war & it ain't gonna be hamas, Israel needs to find peaceful ways to dissolve this, & ofc they will take a lot off casulties in that road but sometimes u gotta sacrifice & then the rest off the world may follow to see that WAR is never An Answer......... Peace


SM

Strong moral stance you are taking. No name calling!

I'm not really even sure where to start with this Daniel. Seriously, with all due respect, I believe you have an incredibly simplistic view of this conflict. To imply Hamas' goal is a worldwide Islamic state, and compare them to Al Qaeda, is laughable. I could go through many other assertions from your post, but it would almost certainly be a waste of time. Suffice to say your post is completely one-sided and lacking in any historical understanding of the conflict.

There are now well over 1000 Palestinians dead in this latest round of violence, the vast majority of whom are innocent civilians, including young children. Israel has bombed schools, hospitals, and UN safe areas. Even if you want to blame all of this death and destruction on Hamas (which is laughable, Israeli propaganda, but whatever), why choose this particular moment to make your case? Bombs are literally falling now on Palestinian children, and you rush to defend Israel? At the very least it shows a shameful lack of sensitivity.

It's great you are opinionated about many things, certainly in poker few are as qualified as you to make your case. In this instance and on this topic, however, you have no idea what you are talking about. And you have chosen the absolute worst time to make your case.

--PP

Thank you for the very intense response Dnegs ! I appreciate you taking your time out on replying to this thread !

"Honesty is always the Best Policy !" ....

Point me to where he said this.

******ed man with half a brain knows that these statements are always dangerous, one gets worse as the majority of victims in Gaza are innocents and children, and everything is still fresh to make any statements out to respect of their tragedy.
Daniel knew what kind of reaction they would have, but it still says this chit. there are several reasons why this is done,...and at least those of us who follow the poker world know what kind of attention whore he is so maybe that is just it, or that his employers ordered it. I think that this explanation is not required.
The third option is that daniel really just ******ed ignorant idiot, and it is my favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV7m6IIN_tI#t=49

Dude, it's not being "wishy washy" to have a multifaceted view on a complex topic, it's called being informed. Being 100% for, or 100% against something as complicated as that particular conflict is a disservice to intelligent thinking. Saying you are 100% for either side is in effect condoning bombing neutral UN sites with children present, which is, of course, ridiculous.

Everybody is entitled to their own views and beliefs, agree with you big time here..

Regardless of which stance DN is taking, only a complete BELLEND would spout crap about a situation they know next to nothing about on Twitter.

Seriously what a ***** moron.

Claim that if you want, but he is an avowed non-believer and that's the very definition of atheism. He doesn't subscribe to Judaism, or any of the thousands of other man-made religious myths.

Once a liar, always a liar:

As you acknowledge, there are many debatable points in your post. This however is not one of them. The manner in which each side approaches the conflict (militarily) means a lot, but to claim that one side cares more about "it's people" than the other bc they can better protect their citizens is wrong.


As many have written ITT, your views do not come across as nuanced or sophisticated, and maybe your use of social media to communicate these ideas are partly resposible. But the claim above does not do you any favors.

Should Dnegs's post be deleted like most "politard" posts have been until now ? What do you thinks mods ?

I said I wasn't going to go through his post line by line because his arguments are ridiculously simplistic and misinformed. I just want to point out that Daniel's assertion that Israelis care more about their citizens than Palestinians is classic Orientalism.

I'm reminded of essays from the US South in the 50's talking about the Negro's incapacity to learn, his affinity to over breed. We're really in quite disgusting territory here.

--PP

Daniel,

Did you support the 2003 Iraq war?

Daniel, the guy that couldn't finish high school says he's "done a decent amount of reading on the conflict" and basically posted his conclusion (literally one a 2nd grader can come up with) on Twitter lol.

I hope Men the Master posts on how to improve the large Hadron Collider after reading an article in Popular Science.

Daniel, you have my utmost respect for not being afraid to speak up during those times.

To all the rest, please continue to defend "innocent palestinians", capable of such acts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itamar_attack

I do not support or cheer for any death, especially children's, but for **** sakes, this is getting ridiculous. A country has a right to defend itself against a terrorist organisation. All the couch pacifisists that live far away from the conflict, have no idea as to what's going on and get spoonfed by the biased euromedia, seriously, just shut up already.

More like lol if you think Daniel wrote that post. That either came from someone at PokerStars or Brian Balsbaugh's folks wrote that. No way Dnegs can come up with that on his own.