So basically you have zero proof of cheating.

Nah, Bryan stole the money because Robbi was supposed to give him a cut but then she gave all the money back to Garrett, so he just took it upon himself to make sure he got his share.

You can think what you want to think. The truth is going to come out and you aren't going to like it.

Be interesting to read how the 'security companies' tackle this. I for one know little about how cards can be read, or can't be, by potential devices. Here how the 2nd river (hidden)card's data could be transmitted to Robbie.

Ya, except she paid Bryan 15k, so he was the one selling the information.

I'm not going to like a cheating ring getting busted?

Can I have whatever you are on?

I’m loving all the tweets by former guilters who suddenly are above it all and don’t care one way or the other.

They’re too small to admit they were wrong. It’s cute.

,,and how did this Bryan know the river cards?

It's hilarious. They were all fired up when the Bryan story broke.

I don't think he needed to know the river cards in this situation, but you're right, maybe he did know the river cards somehow.

I find this very hard to believe.

Basically, the narrative she's trying to put out there is that she said, "What can I do? How can I make this better?" and Garrett replied with, "You can give me my money back" in her mind was just about the fact she felt bad she won a pot she shouldn't have been in, and not about being accused of cheating.

It's not believable that someone would think a pro like Garrett would say "you can give me my money back" and it would be about him being upset she won a hand she never should have called with. And it's also hard to believe she said 'what can I do to make this better' to make him feel better about losing.

Like seriously? Even with her personality, is that believable at all? I'm having a hard time seeing it.

I sort of agree. We should investigate fully. But as far as Spanish Inquisition, that wouldn't really be a thing if Rob didn't talk non stop and lie and change stories non stop.

As far as Bryan goes, we have confirmation of him stealing off of Rob's stack after stream, after incident. We have rumours that he might be an overall thief, but no other confirmed instances of him stealing from stacks.

Agreed a change/improvement needs to come to the stream security.

Maybe I can help out. Do you think Garrett not playing poker the past two weeks is normal or abnormal?

In which case you have not been following the case well. The theory is Robbie knew she would win the hand if she called the 109k raise. Since she said run it twice, or agreed to, she had to have known she would win whether it was run once or twice, so any 'signaller' would have needed to know the last two deck cards.

The first thing you would do is pull him/her from school. So you would not be able to record anything without submitting them to more abuse. That analogy kind of works here in that no one is going to say anything knowing there is an ongoing investigation.

To the point of the cameras/investigation, there should be a whole lot of information coming out, even if it is nothing along the lines of our suspicions around cheating. There are enough blatant offenses and inconsistencies that can start to be brought to light, cleared up at this point.

But as I said in my original post here, I really think, we will get very little, as they will settle this behind the scenes, and everyone will get the opportunity to save as much face as possible, especially HCL.

So you think HCL is going to turn their backs on Garrett? You think they are going to publicly call him a liar when this investigation is over?

Idk bro, she really looked like she knew her hand was ridiculous to me. Maybe she was hoping that she would lose one. That would be "fair", right? Just like giving half of the money back to Garrett? But ya, I'm sure some people would be pissed about not getting their cut of that 130k. Maybe even pissed enough to steal their share.

Robbie is talking about her memory of her thoughts, actions.............. days prior to discussing them. Or her recollection of events. Memory, as you know, is a creative ability.

If he asked her for the money back she could have perceived this as he knew or thought he knew she knew she had a J/3 at the turn, so her call was an error, or would not have been made.

After spending a few hrs with Robbie waffling on she presents as someone who does not need the money, or is not bothered about having a few more dollars at the moment, or a few less dollars, and presents as someone who is not super keen on conflict, as well as someone more easily bewildered by a fast moving, novel, stressful turn of events. So I don't find the offer of returning the money especially odd, especially if she did think she had a J/3 at the time of the raise.

just read his original post, he said exactly what he thinks they'll do w/ Garrett.

If the matter goes to court Garrett not using you as an expert witness would be beyond foolish!

From our perspective they have. Think of poker theory. What happens when you are vs villain and they call the flop? Their range narrows. Now they call the turn. Their range narrows once again.

This is what I meant. Obviously I know that the reality is binary and that there was cheating or not. However just like poker all this speculating about the Robbi incident is a game of incomplete information and the more information we receive the more the possible outcomes narrow down.

Long way to say I'm right. Thanks.

But here we have a potential investigation that is potentially widening, if Garrett goes down a Private Investigators folllowing people around for months road. So some theories may already be falsified, but others opening. Thus my view in terms of cheating being possible we are not seeing a major shift in the odds, so far. If the 'security companies' produce a cutting edge 'unbiased' report and the finding is a negative, we will see the odds of cheating reduced. Arguably to a 1% chance of, or thereabouts.

Got it. Thanks!