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04-25-2012 , 12:56 PM

#25377

gimmepilotwings

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollWave

no way, the overwhelming majority of players had near zero balances and were inactive accounts, playmoney players, and freeroll superstars. There are toooons of players who deposited $50 bucks one time, lost it, then never played again.

I would not be surprised if the 94.9% of players totaled like $1mil and pretty much the entire $330mil outstanding balance was in those 5.1% and includes everyone with >$5 in their account.

Technically my account had a 0 balance, but I was stick $1200 in a check that I never received from FTP. I imagine there are thousands of other users like me.

However, I should have clarified. I meant that users that did not have a legit 0 balance are owed on average $1,000 - $1,500.

04-25-2012 , 01:03 PM

#25378

FDSaussure

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,242

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings

Definitely setting the line too high. For everyone with $1k in their account there's gonna be 10x with $100.

04-25-2012 , 01:04 PM

#25379

KingKongGrinder

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,598

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDSaussure

Definitely setting the line too high. For everyone with $1k in their account there's gonna be 10x with $100.

I also think that a good portion of all the accounts had $100 or less.

04-25-2012 , 01:17 PM

#25380

kevmode

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,539

Quote:

Originally Posted by leviathan74

Chris Ferguson: " My next challenge is to start with a 5 cigarette bankroll and turn it into 50 packs within the next 10-15 years!"

Meh this is a stupid post by a hater. Ferguson crushed mtts live and online.

04-25-2012 , 01:18 PM

#25381

gimmepilotwings

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDSaussure

Definitely setting the line too high. For everyone with $1k in their account there's gonna be 10x with $100.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder

I also think that a good portion of all the accounts had $100 or less.

You may be right.

However, the 5.1% of ROW players made up 90% of the funds owed. (according to the figures provided by Tapie, 5.1% of players owed 160M)

It also appears that play money accounts and accounts with a 0 balance were included in the player figures that Tapie used. (So he could inflate the amount of people that were 'made whole.'

I think the line is much higher than $100.

04-25-2012 , 01:18 PM

#25382

pokerman22

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 352

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevmode

Meh this is a stupid post by a hater. Ferguson crushed mtts live and online.

in after kevmode

04-25-2012 , 01:18 PM

#25383

mdom88

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,833

Median would be a better way to look at it. Diamond flush article said 95% of balances were 100 or less, soooooo...

04-25-2012 , 01:22 PM

#25384

ItsRainingMen

master of your domain

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 21,755

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevmode

Meh this is a stupid post by a hater. Ferguson crushed mtts live and online.

kevmodeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

04-25-2012 , 01:30 PM

#25385

gimmepilotwings

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdom88

Median would be a better way to look at it. Diamond flush article said 95% of balances were 100 or less, soooooo...

.. but it is also disingenuous to say that when you include fake money accounts for example. Of course there balance would be 0, yet it looks better in press releases when you include those users. Same with those that aren't owed anything by FTP.

04-25-2012 , 01:34 PM

#25386

gopheresque

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 136

I know many people are really crapping on the GBT deal, and it does seem like it wouldn't have been adequate. However, if pokerstars does not buy FTP there will literally be no chance to get repayed for anyone, and then we'll all have wished the GBT deal would have gone through.

04-25-2012 , 01:35 PM

#25387

Bene Gesserit

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,365

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevmode

Meh this is a stupid post by a hater. Ferguson crushed mtts live and online.

Hey you are one of the cleverest posters ever, my absolute favorite.

Yeah we should all like and respect CF for the stand up dude he is.

Keep posting

04-25-2012 , 01:43 PM

#25388

starvingwriter82

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 7,793

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit

Hey you are one of the cleverest posters ever, my absolute favorite.

Yeah we should all like and respect CF for the stand up dude he is.

Keep posting

rofl

Can I get a package deal that comes with the sarcasm detector, or do I need to buy it separately?

04-25-2012 , 01:43 PM

#25389

gimmepilotwings

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopheresque

If PS doesn't buy FTP, I'm sure GBT can come back and offer a similar deal after the fact.

04-25-2012 , 01:49 PM

#25390

Lavahands

banned

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 865

Quote:

Orinic Ltd, the Swiss-facing subsidiary of Full Tilt Poker (FTP), has withdrawn its application for an egaming licence with the Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC), according to a statement from the regulator.

04-25-2012 , 01:50 PM

#25391

IamPro

one time Plz???

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 17,652

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopheresque

I have a feeling that GBT got out bc PS made a better deal and if the PS deal falls thru, GBT would prob get back in

04-25-2012 , 01:54 PM

#25392

XaQ Morphy

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,022

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevmode

Meh this is a stupid post by a hater. Ferguson crushed mtts live and online.

Yeah, so how do you feel about staking him for those mtts and not getting your cut, since he played them with your bankroll???

04-25-2012 , 01:55 PM

#25393

timchuk

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,523

I have a weird feeling GBT will buy UB. They need something for the ISPT and in the press release it kind of leads me to believe they have other options open.

04-25-2012 , 02:01 PM

#25394

joeyrulesall

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,532

Where are all the "genius poker message board people" that told me to put on my tin foil hat when I was saying how the tapie deal made zero sense. I'll take those apologies now. Btw I actually feel like this poker stars thing has a chance to be real.
Makes a hell of a lot more sense the the crap you people have been spewing for months. #goodtoberight

And the person who owes me the biggest apology is diamond flush. Totally attacked me out of the blue when I knew more than the so called poker journalist.

Last edited by SGT RJ; 04-25-2012 at 02:55 PM.

04-25-2012 , 02:02 PM

#25395

bizzle03

adept

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,000

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepilotwings

If PS doesn't buy FTP, I'm sure GBT can come back and offer a similar deal after the fact.

GBT said as much in their statement.

"GBT cannot accept the end of those [player hopes for a repayment solution]

For that reason, unless a concrete and legally viable solution is found in the very coming days to save the employees and repay the players of FTP, we will move to our own plan of action."

04-25-2012 , 02:02 PM

#25396

Bene Gesserit

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,365

Quote:

Originally Posted by timchuk

I have a weird feeling GBT will buy UB. They need something for the ISPT and in the press release it kind of leads me to believe they have other options open.

Any ideas how much UB AP owes? I don't know myself, but likely less than FTP does.

Just speculating from us, but I would not be shocked if this was the next wierd twist

04-25-2012 , 02:10 PM

#25397

Bene Gesserit

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 6,365

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeyrulesall

You were right about GBT as were some others, props to you, you were also a rude troll about it and you didn't have to be, so some apologies are due both ways, but all in all it looks like it may all work out and you get your $4k along with being right about the FTP2 deal!

Alls well that ends well

04-25-2012 , 02:14 PM

#25398

TheDarkElf

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,667

I hope the DOJ amends their civil complaint.

Group Bernard Tapie => Slow Rolling

04-25-2012 , 02:19 PM

#25399

joeyrulesall

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3,532

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bene Gesserit

Alls well that ends well

Only time I had been what could be considered rude was after being attacked by an endless crowd of people for disagreeing with the masses. Now you know why I disagreed because anyone with any common sense could see it didn't add up. Remember me saying over
and over wake up!!! Btw I don't know where you came up with the amount I'm stuck because I have never told anyone in here how much but that is not it. Unfortunately it's more. Let's hope this works out.

04-25-2012 , 02:22 PM

#25400

gimmepilotwings

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 105

Quote:

Originally Posted by bizzle03

I also think the below is their plan of action. Not waiting for the PS deal to not go through.

Quote:

Originally Posted by timchuk

I have a weird feeling GBT will buy UB. They need something for the ISPT and in the press release it kind of leads me to believe they have other options open.

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