hasidgohasdiog seriously are people still ******ed enough to think that the reason he loaned him the money was he thought he was out of money? Many people are worth a ****ton of money and still borrow and loan money between friends. It's how the gambling world works. It's not feasible to be carrying that much cash around. Can people who've never played higher than micros online stop pretending to know exactly how the actual live poker world works?


Are you being serious? You realize what Edwin did is likely a felony right?

That said Jay I would definitely contact his parents or anyone else who might have some influence on him and if that doesn't work consider filing charges. It seems you have a lot of this pretty well documented and although you likely wouldn't see the entire 11k it'd be better than the current situation. Can't really hurt to at least talk to a lawyer, my understanding is most will do free half-hour consultations.

Let's see. Edwin Kim wasn't worth a ####ton of money as the world now knows. Edwin obviously isn't scared of carrying large amounts of money around. He likes to drop 5k at the bar, and he will leave a duffle bag of money in an airport locker ffs. And why are you even comparing this to poker players loaning each other money?

Did you even read this thread before you called others ******ed? Doesn't seem like it

But it's real cool how you know how the live poker world works.

+1

You can not only add me to the list, but when you have a second address the other 100k he lost gambling with the bookmakers. The issue is over 100k not 11k

LOL at the people saying bookmaking is illegal ON A US BASED ONLINE POKER forum. In the US govt eyes all us US citizens did the same thing, gambled illegally. So if you have a beef with Jays bookmaker friends the reality is the US govt makes no distinctiion between jays friends and every major online poker site we all play on.

In this story jayss friends are US and Edwin is full tilt

Are you being serious? You realize what Edwin did is likely a felony right? consultations.[/QUOTE]

felony?

How so?

The OP isn't destroying anyone's reputation. He's making the facts known. The guy who owes money and isn't paying it is the one destroying his own rep.

There have been at least a couple times that I've loaned money to people and gotten stiffed, and come to find out they had borrowed from everybody else along with me. If I'd known their track records beforehand, I would not have given them a dime.

And, maybe it's not a big deal to you, but to get stiffed for any amount of money is a problem. Money that was mine, that I used to help someone, and might never see again. $11,000 a lot of buy-ins for a cash game. Or maybe I'd use it to buy into the WSOP next year. Just saying "Oh well, it's just a couple nights out" is totally disregarding the point.

jay, i'm calling a truce... let's move on so i can talk to you, unbiased.

didn't edwin only play the main this last wsop? Pretty positive that he played < 3 events, and the only one i was aware was the main (and he was 80% staked)

I know it's tough to take what i say without it having a layer of lvl hatred, but i'm gonna be genuine from here on out. (i swear on sgt's life )



edwin was allegedly getting 5 nights/week comped via harrahs so idk what house he's talking about, but i'm getting super curious.

I'm responding because you're posting something pertinent to the thread.

I'm not sure how many events he played in the WSOP. I do know that he put me into a $2k satellite on a freeroll. I don't know if he was staked or not.

I do know he had been staying comped at Harrah's and Cosmo properties comped for a long time.

I did just find out that he owes another $80k to some people who are certainly less friendly than myself and my friends. So best of luck to him. I'm considering this a writeoff and a lesson learned in checking people's reputation beyond what I know of them personally. If DD or anyone had come forward before this, I'm sure I would've known and not been lending out money to him, much less letting him take me out to dinners and clubs when I knew he owed other people cash.

[x] LOL ******aments

[x] LOL Trollaments

No wonder he is hiding where there is no internet.

Yet another moron gets scammed by a dude he hardly knows.

There is an idiot born every minute. I noticed JayLV that you have mentioned you thought he would be good for the cash because he was your friend. Well you have just learned one of life's lessons - friendship and money don't mix. You know the guy what, a year? Jesus Christ, you know f**k all about someone if you've only known them a year - as you have found out the hard way.

So what if you thought this scumbag scammer was a decent and generous guy....Do you think scammers get money off their victims by being mean to them? No, they get money by roping them in and creating the illusion that they are a great friend.

Moral of the story: Friendship and money don't mix. Or even better, random strangers you know f*** all about and money dont mix.

I find it amusing how you made a bunch of posts ITT calling Jay out but the second you want some information from him that's all in the past.

Literally the first 4 things you said about Jay here, this is prior to any response from him to you:

How would you describe someone who will call you names but then call a truce in a fight they started because they want something from you now? Sounds like a douche and a user to me.

It has been stated numerous times, i was bringing lvl randomness to a thread not involving lvl.

jay and i have both said bad **** about one another, but really, who cares? It's the internet. I've literally run into Jay once, it's not like he actually affects my life (and vice versa).

Also how the hell does my asking jay if he knew whether or not edwin played more than the main event equate to "calling Jay out but the second you want some information from him that's all in the past."?!

It's not like I said "jay, you're a douche. hey can you get me a deal on bottle service??"

I didn't speak to edwin a ton, but the only event i knew that he played was the main. So, i asked if he knew differently.

anyway... it seems as though edwin is back to tweeting, so at least his life is back to normal for somebody.

What was the OP's reward? He posted early in the thread that he recieved nothing for referals

Pretty standard con; the confidence man has to establish trust by loaning you money first, with very little stipulations. This makes him appear trustworthy, when it says the opposite, that he is trusting. Just because he lent you money has nothing to do with his ability to pay you back on any future loan you give to him;zero.

The fact that you needed money in the first place made you the taget. Always stay within your means and you won't get targetted.

And blowing through cash at clubs being an indication of his ability to repay??? Wow, what a bad attempt to "connect the dots"

Lol. I know this dude Edwin Kim

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OP... I think you need to do what this man says.

wtf is the bookie taking these kinds of bets for with cash

i try tomor ,see if william hill loan me 1,000,000,000

or try jaylv for 100k but take anything over 1k

i hope u get money jay

shame on you edwin

classic read 1st page and back

Not that this should come as any surprise but I've gotten a couple more message from people who Edwin scammed for $2k-$9k.

nearly fool me there.nice try

OHHHH Edwin Edwin Edwin. Making yourself out to be just a good guy who has made some hapless mistakes.

What a bunch of HORSE%$#@!!!!!

To everyone reading this thread. I loaned Edwin 9k to play limit holdem just under 2 years ago.

I have still not seen 1 red cent from this little kid. We went on for about a year of him telling me he will pay me back every cent owed to me with a 50/50 split of anything above 9k. He actually ran it up to about 14,500 before concluding the deal. But Never got a nickel of my seed money or a nickel of my profit. I didn't even care about the 5 or 6k profit. I just wanted the 9k I put up for this little kid.

I would be MORE THEN HAPPY to forward anyone in this forum multiple E-mails from EDWIN KIM to me over the course of 2010 TO PROVE that he is nothing but a scammer like the OP stated.

So please if anyone would like to know who the real EDWIN KIM is please PM me because nothing would make me happier than proving what a con-artist he is by forwarding E-mails to whoever would like to know. THE CATCH WORDS THAT JAY USES IN THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD ARE TRUE, AND I CAN PROVE IT WITH MORE THAN A DOZEN EMAILS FROM EDWIN KIM. Yet I don't have a single cent back from EDWIN KIM.

BTW Edwin Kim... 5k bills at clubs? Sorry it costs you that much to give yourself a fighting chance of getting laid. lol

Finding this thread is like an early Christmas present. LOVE IT!!!

To all those who LENT money to this Edwin Kim...just curious as to how great of a player did you guys consider Edwin to be?? how about maybe comparing him to any of the pros out there just so I can get the jist of comparable level....

Could you list all of Edwin debts in a post (amount, description and maybe date) ?

That would be self explanatory and people would probably stop nit picking on you.

No. Not my business to say who Edwin owes money too other than myself if they don't want it out there.

And nobody is nit picking.

Better yet, sell the loan to some of those Korean loan sharks. If the movies are accurate, those guys don't let up until they've relieved you of your internal organs and they've got your mother, your wife and your daughter all out 'delivering coffee'.