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View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?
Tom "Durrrr" Dwan
1,577 41.89%
Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates
2,188 58.11%

03-29-2011 , 09:42 PM
jungleman may or may not be a robot sent back in time to capitalize on high stakes poker before the robotical takeover of 2012
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03-29-2011 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Caponeny
how much up overall?
1,251M
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03-29-2011 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Shining Fountain
durrrr got spanked like a little girl
Basically. I know we not even half way through, but tbh I just carn't see a way back for durrrr. I think he can kiss the 1.5 goodbye, jungleman has him figured out and is just winning every pot. Durrrr can not come back only winning like 40% of the pots, just not gunna happen. Jungleman is just too good.
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03-29-2011 , 09:45 PM
am i the only one who thinks durrs online game doesnt match his live game ?
all im seeing is a shy boy who doesnt know on which button he has to press. Instead, on all live shows i saw he looks more...like a mix between a genius and a total degen, always accurate and confident.
dont u think isildur episode crushed so much his soul that he hasnt recovered his confidence when he plays online ?


or am i saying total bull **** ??

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03-29-2011 , 09:45 PM
also a lot of extra HHs in March HS thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...thread-989520/



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Originally Posted by AndyBernard6
Thanks jspill for posting tonight.
you're welcome

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03-29-2011 , 10:04 PM
I like the part where it says "may play later today"




Who is the black guy daniel is with in that pic? Looks like a cool guy. glad to see daniel is getting out more (this isnt meant to be a rude comment in anyway)
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03-29-2011 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Boy Jack
am i the only one who thinks durrs online game doesnt match his live game ?
all im seeing is a shy boy who doesnt know on which button he has to press. Instead, on all live shows i saw he looks more...like a mix between a genius and a total degen, always accurate and confident.
isildur episode must have crushed so much his soul that he hasnt recovered his confidence when he plays online


or am i saying total bull **** ??
No durrr's one of the best online players in the world. Isildur1 is a prodigy and jungleman is just better. Apart from those two he hasn't really play much more since the isildur1 match online. If your number 3 in the world, but only play number 2 and 1 your not guna win. Not saying they top 3, just saying.
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03-29-2011 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Boy Jack
am i the only one who thinks durrs online game doesnt match his live game ?
all im seeing is a shy boy who doesnt know on which button he has to press. Instead, on all live shows i saw he looks more...like a mix between a genius and a total degen, always accurate and confident.
dont u think isildur episode crushed so much his soul that he hasnt recovered his confidence when he plays online ?


or am i saying total bull **** ??
agree with u....
may be his interest in live poker has surpassed online poker
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03-29-2011 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Boy Jack
am i the only one who thinks durrs online game doesnt match his live game ?
all im seeing is a shy boy who doesnt know on which button he has to press. Instead, on all live shows i saw he looks more...like a mix between a genius and a total degen, always accurate and confident.
dont u think isildur episode crushed so much his soul that he hasnt recovered his confidence when he plays online ?


or am i saying total bull **** ??
i think it has more to do with who his opponent[s] is/are than whether it's live or online. he's confident playing phil laak and lederer...
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03-30-2011 , 12:08 AM
Durrrr just isn't in the same league as these new guys. Jungleman and Isildur have both whipped him. Urnotindngr2, Sauce and Nutsinho would probably kick his butt too. We're not in 2008 anymore.
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03-30-2011 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hammer_time
Durrrr just isn't in the same league as these new guys. Jungleman and Isildur have both whipped him. Urnotindngr2, Sauce and Nutsinho would probably kick his butt too. We're not in 2008 anymore.
gonna have to x2 this

BUT

i think durrrr has the potential to be better or just as good if he started multi tabling hunl again
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03-30-2011 , 01:02 AM
you're definitely under rating him
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03-30-2011 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by cro0sh
gonna have to x2 this

BUT

i think durrrr has the potential to be better or just as good if he started multi tabling hunl again
this - the man simply isnt putting in much volume or keeping sharp. At the top, when edges are so small this is huge.
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03-30-2011 , 02:22 AM
so jungleman isn't running good?
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03-30-2011 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
this - the man simply isnt putting in much volume or keeping sharp. At the top, when edges are so small this is huge.
hmm...durr never had a chance after really thinking about it and seeing jungleman perform so well after being given a 1mm freeroll. I truly believe junglemans style is much better/sharper and whilst 50k hands is in no way a legit sample ---you can infer that jungleman is truly the superior player. most likely to remain in power for another year. He heavily relies on his hud, it will become obvious that this will pave future to optimal game play. His understanding for hu nl might is the closest thing to perfect. The edge for feel based players is being compromised by hud seeking new comers.

Jungleman/Urnotindanger's poker skills can be taught....they do have a sense of logic and with enough coaching you can gain close to ideal value of how to correctly play the game.

Nevertheless, jungleman is showing the importance of HUD's. I looked at a hand where jungleman calls with Qhigh on the river and was wrong. I can tell he really thinks like this... if hes calling OOP around this percentage preflop, these hands are in his range on the flop. Guessing these hands would'nt do this very often, so need to be good around 53%, and blah blah

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03-30-2011 , 02:54 AM
can we stop posting in this thread until they are playing again
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03-30-2011 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by User
hmm...durr never had a chance after really thinking about it and seeing jungleman perform so well after being given a 1mm freeroll. I truly believe junglemans style is much better/sharper and whilst 50k hands is in no way a legit sample ---you can infer that jungleman is truly the superior player. most likely to remain in power for another year. He heavily relies on his hud, it will become obvious that this will pave future to optimal game play. His understanding for hu nl might is the closest thing to perfect. The edge for feel based players is being compromised by hud seeking new comers.

If we are to truly come close to solving heads up poker, junglemans contributions for the last year have showed the pave of hud/analytical mindset exceeding over the feel based nerd. Jungleman/Urnotindanger's poker skills can be taught....they do have a sense of logic and with enough coaching you can gain close to ideal value of how to correctly play the game.


Nevertheless, jungleman is showing importance HUD's. I looked at a hand jungleman calls with QJ high. You can tell he really uses stuff like... if hes 3betting x%, whats optimal 4bet percentage.
shut up
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03-30-2011 , 03:03 AM
That jungleman is the only player when i rail him i got absolutely NO CLUE on his ranges, moves, plans etc, he's a confirmed genius
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03-30-2011 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
shut up
What do you disagree with?
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03-30-2011 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by User
What do you disagree with?
you couldnt possibly sound more like a HEM or PT3 Shill. Anyway, not derailing the thread on this topic. You continue to think that playing as well as jungleman does is something most people can learn if they rely heavily on their HUD.

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03-30-2011 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
you couldnt possibly sound more like a HEM or PT3 Shill. Anyway, not derailing the thread on this topic. You continue to think that playing as well as jungleman does is something most people can learn if they rely heavily on their HUD.
Never did I say that [you imbecile]. You misunderstood everything. Not worth arguing over but just know that you don't know.
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03-30-2011 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 7gramrocks
That jungleman is the only player when i rail him i got absolutely NO CLUE on his ranges, moves, plans etc, he's a confirmed genius
Confirmed because YOU can't figure out his range?
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03-30-2011 , 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
this - the man simply isnt putting in much volume or keeping sharp. At the top, when edges are so small this is huge.
wat?
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03-30-2011 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by wants
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Originally Posted by Ziplok
this - the man simply isnt putting in much volume or keeping sharp. At the top, when edges are so small this is huge.
wat?
He's saying... "Small hands make your **** look big", essentially.

Right???
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03-30-2011 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JacknCoke56
Confirmed because YOU can't figure out his range?
Logic fail here imo.

Let me explain it to you, i didn't tell you that if "I" can't figure out his ranges means he's a genius, i have not the pretention to say i'm any good at pokers. This actually simply means that with my gven level and understandings of poker, i can figure out more moves from any other player than Jungleman.
Example, let's say for the lolz Ivey accurately figures out 90% of durrrr's play, 80% of Jungleman's play
I figure out 10% of durrrr play, 0% of jungleman play, Jungleman confirmed still better. So definetely not a matter of how good I am.

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