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12-04-2012 , 06:51 AM

#326

Biggy333x

journeyman

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 269

Is this proof that teh rng is fixed to benefit red pros like ppl suggested when PI won 20 mega?

Or not?

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12-04-2012 , 07:06 AM

#327

Clayton

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 32,241

i think it's a little naive to suggest dwan is spewing when none of you play NL 2-7 and the stDEV of this game must be just so off-the-charts high that a 25 buyin swing is lol

12-04-2012 , 07:09 AM

#328

Clayton

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 32,241

also, has there been an all-in yet where the player in position is pat before draw 2, and on draw 2 the OOP player pats to force a position-player break, then goes back and draws 1 again? like... a bluff pat i guess

seems like something that could happen but maybe the math says it should never happen

12-04-2012 , 07:12 AM

#329

Rei Ayanami

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

Quote:

Originally Posted by Testi

I'd like that to, but it would be almost dubble the work. I cant think of a good way to distinguish hands right now

A short description of the game above the spoiler, like "$2,500/$5,000 Triple Draw NL," would be very helpful when multiple games are running. If there are many instances of one game type, like a few different HUPLOs, player names in addition would be useful. And when there's only one game running, the first such header would cover all subsequent hands.

12-04-2012 , 07:24 AM

#330

jinzerd

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,875

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton

i think it's a little naive to suggest dwan is spewing when none of you play NL 2-7 and the stDEV of this game must be just so off-the-charts high that a 25 buyin swing is lol

its a little naive to say all this without looking at all the hands posted too.

12-04-2012 , 07:43 AM

#331

Urinal Pucks

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Having someone wipe my butt after a dump would be nice too. Maybe wash my taint and scrub my feet would be cool.

Cheers Testi for the work, much appreciated.

12-04-2012 , 07:50 AM

#332

Clayton

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 32,241

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinzerd

its a little naive to say all this without looking at all the hands posted too.

i looked at probably 90% of the testi hands before getting bored, the only one that looked off was this one, i think betting the 8753 when checked to in a 1v1 on the turn is kinda derp

please help me out here and give an example of him spewing really hard.

fwiw, with a winrate of 5 and a stDEV of 200, you can go anywhere between winning or losing 2.4MM in a 10k hand sample. if those numbers are close at all, then durrrr "getting blasted" for 1MM or w/e seems paltry. this game plays huge, i just cant quite quantify it with proper stDEv

12-04-2012 , 08:13 AM

#333

Rei Ayanami

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11,685

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urinal Pucks

Having someone wipe my butt after a dump would be nice too. Maybe wash my taint and scrub my feet would be cool.

Cheers Testi for the work, much appreciated.

This thread is an outlet for HHs, not for your obsessive bathroom fantasies, "Urinal Pucks."

Anyway, thanks Testi. Please don't assume I'm being pushy, as this weirdo has made the mistake of doing. It's just a suggestion; do what you please.

12-04-2012 , 08:27 AM

#334

mrcmcklwht

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 273

Great job Testi!!

12-04-2012 , 09:50 AM

#335

Party@TheDoJ

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 393

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urinal Pucks

Having someone wipe my butt after a dump would be nice too. Maybe wash my taint and scrub my feet would be cool.

Cheers Testi for the work, much appreciated.

filthy pig

12-04-2012 , 10:40 AM

#336

suitzzz

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by David123

if ur not drawing two on last draw when AI, ur a nit.

l o l. wp

12-04-2012 , 11:11 AM

#337

Keenan

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,336

Awesome job on the gifs

12-04-2012 , 11:25 AM

#338

moki

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,051

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBroseidon

Since the new FTP has launched:

Isildur: -298k
Hansen: -1.92m
Dwan: -1.1m (400k on profile, 700k just happened)

v professional

Since the FTP relaunch...

12-04-2012 , 12:10 PM

#339

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

They are doing three tables.

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Lottenice (BB): $36253 (363 BBs)
wilhasha (BU): $25000 (250 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
wilhasha (BU) raises to $250, Lottenice (BB) raises to $1000, wilhasha (BU) calls $750

Flop: ($2000) 6

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) bets $1300, wilhasha (BU) raises to $2950, Lottenice (BB) calls $1650

Turn: ($7900) A

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $3650, Lottenice (BB) calls $3650

River: ($15200) K

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) checks

Total pot: $15200 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
Lottenice (BB) shows 4

(three of a kind, Fives)
wilhasha (BU) mucks
Lottenice (BB) wins $15198

12-04-2012 , 12:11 PM

#340

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Lottenice (BB): $22092 (221 BBs)
wilhasha (BU): $33240 (332 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
wilhasha (BU) raises to $250, Lottenice (BB) calls $150

Flop: ($500) K

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $300, Lottenice (BB) calls $300

Turn: ($1100) T

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $800, Lottenice (BB) raises to $2600, wilhasha (BU) calls $1800

River: ($6300) 8

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) bets $6000, wilhasha (BU) calls $6000

Total pot: $18300 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
Lottenice (BB) shows 6

(a flush, Jack high)
wilhasha (BU) mucks
Lottenice (BB) wins $18298

12-04-2012 , 12:11 PM

#341

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Lottenice (BU): $10050 (101 BBs)
wilhasha (BB): $45300 (453 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
Lottenice (BU) raises to $200, wilhasha (BB) raises to $750, Lottenice (BU) calls $550

Flop: ($1500) J

(2 players)
wilhasha (BB) bets $900, Lottenice (BU) calls $900

Turn: ($3300) A

(2 players)
wilhasha (BB) bets $2150, Lottenice (BU) calls $2150

River: ($7600) 8

(2 players)
wilhasha (BB) bets $41500 (all-in), Lottenice (BU) calls $6250 (all-in)

Total pot: $20100 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
wilhasha (BB) shows Q

(two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Lottenice (BU) shows T

(a straight, Eight to Queen)
Lottenice (BU) wins $20098

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

990 trials (Exhaustive)

board: J

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
QdJd	67.58%	669	0
Ts9s	32.42%	321	0

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

44 trials (Exhaustive)

board: J

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
QdJd	68.18%	30	0
Ts9s	31.82%	14	0

12-04-2012 , 12:12 PM

#342

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Lottenice (BU): $30257 (303 BBs)
wilhasha (BB): $20161 (202 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
Lottenice (BU) raises to $200, wilhasha (BB) raises to $750, Lottenice (BU) raises to $1800, wilhasha (BB) raises to $4200, Lottenice (BU) raises to $30257 (all-in), wilhasha (BB) calls $15961 (all-in)

Flop: ($40322) 8

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($40322) A

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($40322) K

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $40322 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
wilhasha (BB) shows K

(a full house, Aces full of Kings)
Lottenice (BU) shows Q

(two pair, Aces and Queens)
wilhasha (BB) wins $40320

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

1,712,304 trials (Exhaustive)

Player	Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
wilhasha	Kh As	42.84%	730,541	5,854
Lottenice	Qd Qc	57.16%	975,909	5,854

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

990 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8

Player	Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
wilhasha	Kh As	89.19%	883	0
Lottenice	Qd Qc	10.81%	107	0

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

44 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 8

Player	Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
wilhasha	Kh As	95.45%	42	0
Lottenice	Qd Qc	4.55%	2	0

12-04-2012 , 12:13 PM

#343

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

Value bet, right?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

wilhasha (BB): $33664 (337 BBs)
Lottenice (BU): $10000 (100 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
Lottenice (BU) raises to $200, wilhasha (BB) raises to $750, Lottenice (BU) raises to $1750, wilhasha (BB) calls $1000

Flop: ($3500) 5

(2 players)
wilhasha (BB) checks, Lottenice (BU) checks

Turn: ($3500) 2

(2 players)
wilhasha (BB) bets $1850, Lottenice (BU) calls $1850

River: ($7200) 7

(2 players)
wilhasha (BB) bets $30064 (all-in), Lottenice (BU) calls $6400 (all-in)

Total pot: $20000 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
wilhasha (BB) shows 7

(two pair, Sevens and Deuces)
Lottenice (BU) shows A

(two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Lottenice (BU) wins $19998

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

1,712,304 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
7d9d	20.24%	343,179	6,642
AhAd	79.76%	1,362,483	6,642

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

990 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 5

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
7d9d	32.93%	326	0
AhAd	67.07%	664	0

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

44 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 5

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
7d9d	18.18%	8	0
AhAd	81.82%	36	0

12-04-2012 , 12:14 PM

#344

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

wilhasha (BU): $23068 (231 BBs)
Lottenice (BB): $10450 (105 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
wilhasha (BU) raises to $250, Lottenice (BB) raises to $950, wilhasha (BU) calls $700

Flop: ($1900) 9

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) bets $600, wilhasha (BU) raises to $1850, Lottenice (BB) calls $1250

Turn: ($5600) A

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) checks

River: ($5600) 5

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) bets $7650 (all-in), wilhasha (BU) calls $7650

Total pot: $20900 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
Lottenice (BB) shows A

(two pair, Aces and Nines)
wilhasha (BU) shows J

(a flush, Ace high)
wilhasha (BU) wins $20898

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

990 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 9

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AhQc	70.45%	693	9
JcTc	29.55%	288	9

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

44 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 9

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AhQc	81.82%	36	0
JcTc	18.18%	8	0

12-04-2012 , 12:14 PM

#345

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Lottenice (BB): $12748 (127 BBs)
wilhasha (BU): $18462 (185 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
wilhasha (BU) raises to $250, Lottenice (BB) calls $150

Flop: ($500) 3

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $300, Lottenice (BB) calls $300

Turn: ($1100) 5

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $1480, Lottenice (BB) calls $1480

River: ($4060) Q

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $5650, Lottenice (BB) calls $5650

Total pot: $15360 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
wilhasha (BU) shows 9

(high card King)
Lottenice (BB) shows A

(a pair of Sevens)
Lottenice (BB) wins $15358

12-04-2012 , 12:15 PM

#346

Velocity

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,026

Spoilers get automatically removed on the mobile app which makes reading the thread difficult when they are used in every post with a hand in it, fwiw.

12-04-2012 , 12:15 PM

#347

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $50/$100 - 2 players
Rail Hand History Converter

Lottenice (BB): $28791 (288 BBs)
wilhasha (BU): $18355 (184 BBs)

Pre Flop: ($150)
wilhasha (BU) raises to $250, Lottenice (BB) raises to $1000, wilhasha (BU) calls $750

Flop: ($2000) 7

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) bets $1500, wilhasha (BU) raises to $3350, Lottenice (BB) raises to $6000, wilhasha (BU) calls $2650

Turn: ($14000) 2

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) bets $2650, Lottenice (BB) calls $2650

River: ($19300) Q

(2 players)
Lottenice (BB) checks, wilhasha (BU) checks

Total pot: $19300 (Rake: $2)

Showdown:
Lottenice (BB) shows 5

(a flush, Jack high)
wilhasha (BU) mucks
Lottenice (BB) wins $19298

12-04-2012 , 12:15 PM

#348

eazygoing

Hand Historian

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 6,370

those gifed hhs are genius! well done testi!

12-04-2012 , 12:16 PM

#349

Vanilla Thunder

NVG All-Star

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,783

12-04-2012 , 12:19 PM

#350

Dangle

self-banned

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velocity

Spoilers get automatically removed on the mobile app which makes reading the thread difficult when they are used in every post with a hand in it, fwiw.

A lot of phones lock up if there's a page with a bunch of .gif files trying to load at the same time so the spoiler tags help with that.