aren't you guys embarrassed ? If all i did was **** on Daniel nonstop every day of my life i would NOT want people to know who I am lol

I would also be wondering to myself why Daniel takes up so much room inside my head. He clearly doesnt so why allow him to run your life?

But hey, what ever gets you guys off XD

In my case, I have a lot of empty space up there.

Lol maybe a football field, Canadien sized

So it’s the end of series. DNEG has played very poorly in last 2 years.

It seems like either he finds way to loose or he lost his touch.

He keeps on doing same thing and expecting different or better results!

I am not a critic of DNEG but he needs to go deep within himself and find the solution. Only he can help himself.

I have no qualification to advise him but will suggest to stay away for a month or two from poker, go somewhere where he can reinvent himself.

I wish him Good Luck !!

Great News! The chance for a year-end Punt-a-Rama just announced lol.

... and the prestige from winning a bracelet just got a little more tarnished.

Daniels vlogs are top notch. I subscribe to them and watch them all. I'm a huge fan of Daniel the content creator. It's like a great TV series you binge or something. Just like with a great TV series/show, I'll come here and discuss it with other fans the same as I would a series like Family Guy or Game of Thrones in OOTV. Daniel does get **** on a lot itt for saying and doing silly things just as Peter would in a family guy thread.

For the people following his WSOP results and skipping the vlogs, I'd imagine it's similar to following the Detroit Lions football team or something. After watching them lose over and over, you are bound to throw some criticism their way in a thread discussing the NFL, especially if the Lions head coach had daily vlogs where his commentary on his thought process made his decisions even more hilarious.

"Yeah we lost today by again throwing a hail Mary every single play but that's ok because we were just looking to gamble and hit a few early and then we'd play serious. We'll try again on the next game."

I would not be surprised Daniel Negreanu made more money (Six figures) from that commercial, than 90% of Americans make in a year.

The WSOP will keep adding wrist bracelets until Daniel somehow falls ass backwards into one.
But you know what, they will never count as genuine desert wsop bracelets.

Daniel Negreanu will say otherwise.
He'll tell you despite being down $1.9 million over the last two years, he's up buy-ins.
It's some kind of new math thing.

I don’t know being down $1.9 million over the last two years.( WSOP tournaments +other tournaments + Cash games etc…)

But he is definitely down over 2 million in tournaments in last 2 WSOP.

This year his buy-ins were $1800000.00
His winnings were -$. 377948.00
Unused buy-ins. -$. ??
————————
Loss. $1422052.00

Net loss 2023 WSOP @75%. $1066539.00
+ 2022 WSOP Loss $1100000.00
———————
Total loss 2022 & 2023 WSOP. $2166539.00

I sincerely wish him luck & wisdom to turn around!!

He says he made $1.6m last year, didn't realise he was down $3.5mil for this year to date. Wow.

According to his blog yesterday he's -$733,645 for the series this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeoatAR-cHI

Last year he was -$1,124,956 for the series but made money on the year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAlofBsg4qI

So yep, he's down about $2mil for the WSOP over the last two years. But there are, of course, other tournaments outside of the WSOP and he still seems to be doing ok overall.

Now we know what the green screen was for .. will he and Amanda even go? He certainly talks like he's 'part' of the WSOP .. can't imagine they pay him anything but he definitely thinks he has influence over (and is perhaps invited to meetings about) the schedule and structures. It was interesting to see Jack kind of place himself into the vlog a few times this Summer in the background.

It appears he's going to make a nice comeback in the 25k Draft standings with Popcorn already locking up 61 points in short deck .. If he can ladder one more spot he overtakes Team Baker, which is where most of the side action is booked according to some of his statements. HOWEVER, he's 109 points from slipping into 4th as of this moment, which would at least get his 25K back. In a miracle finish, if both Popcorn and David Peters finish in the top 2 there's a chance that he could move into 3rd place with 2nd pretty much out of reach. I don't think that the teams ahead have any Players who can score more points .. so it comes down to those 2 Players, with Peters in the lead (but not even in the money) in the 5K NL 'last' event.

I'm sure someone could go thru and detail where he says one thing and then yet within the same vlog it appears he goes the other way. He's taking heat for the A7/A8 in the online event and he probably should. There's been at least 3-4 times where he says "I'm DNegs, what do you think I have?". This was a 'call off' .. not the other Player calling into him. From what I understand it's the aggressor that can have the wider range, not the caller .. and I think this was probably too wide at 20bb to call off. (We saw how 'going for the win' worked out last night, eh?)

I think both his "ICM is for poor people" and "chair of the people" are poorly worded and imply shots over the bow negatively towards the very folks who he needs to click for YT payouts. I don't think he means any harm as they are off the cuff, on the fly, comments .. but that's when comments tend to really show off one's true mindset.

His brand is not built on GTO nor ICM .. But I'd be willing to say that if someone offered him 20 to 1 on a million to win POY that his play would change drastically in A LOT of these 'top 30' spots since that's where even one spot means a 10-15% increase in standing points.

He will be railing today, which is fine for Popcorn but I think Peters will be bothered by it. GL


On a non-DNegs note .. I truly believe that the change in 'plan' for the ME final table caused the 4th place Player to be 'off' a bit when they were told to continue playing to a hard stop or when another Player dropped out.

How is he up buyins when his only big score last year came in a 40 player 300k buyin donkament?

If you consider all BI as 'units' regardless of their monetary value then the 'math' changes.

Cashing for 18k in a 1k means he won 17 BI in that tournament. So, in theory, that covers a lot of 2x and 3x bullet attempts in other tournaments while still being 'up'.

Has the makings of a 'variance' conversation for Players when it comes to RIT. GL

I understand that but surely when his only big score was in a super high BI event where he won few BI relatively speaking then surely hes also down BIs as well as down monetarily.

He sold 25% his full package of $1800000.

……… …. …… …. Daniel 75%. Investors 25%
Buyin $1800000. $1350000. $450000.
Profit $ 377948. -$ 283461. -$ 94487.
……………………….. —————- —————-
Net loss………… $ 1066539. $355513.

This is a simple maths . The difference between $1066539 & $733645 must be 75% of unused buy-ins.

It’s such a faulty way to look at it, math wise. When you lose, the maximum you are down is 1 buyin. When you win, you will be up several buyins maybe even tenfold+. It’s a perverse way to somehow equalize the performance in SHR’s with regular ~$1K’s and have a blended performance “score” based on buyins.

The buy-in's and daily vlogs are necessary expenses to be a GG ambassador. They're not going to pay him to sit home during the biggest tournament in the world. He's playing and vlogging to create opportunities to represent the brand. It's his job. No different than the expense of a car, clothes, and haircuts for someone who works in an office.

I think “ICM for poor people” was coined by Nacho Barbero and is a funny statement

Why is that faulty? Yes tournaments pay a lot of buyins when they hit. That's how they work.

If I normalize my buyins and only play $10ks all my life, and I'm ahead in buyins, then... I'm a winning player. Making more money than I put in.

He's too rich to have the drive it takes to really grind these things at the volume he's trying to put in. he wants the glory but the top tier pros playing for the money are going to outwork him off the table by a mile.

He absolutely deserves credit for being extremely transparent with his results.
So many people want to point at their hendon- and these are people trying to sell action at 1.4 or some absurd number. But you ask for actual results and it's crickets.

I've know a few people who wanted to go pro that weren't that good but weren't that bad.. Most could beat 1/2 nl then 2/5 nl they would be small winner or small losers. So they'd play 1/2 nl for a few months build it up then if they ran bad in 2/5 nl would get sent back to 1/2 nl. if they ran well they'd go to 5/10 and get demolished.
If someone did this for a few years and talked about how many buy ins they were up but they were down $$$ overall it would be pretty funny.

Guessing you’ve missed the context. DNegs lost all the high-rollers, I think all of them multiple bullets as well, but then binks a mediocre finish in a ~$1.5K for like ~$16K, then proclaims he’s having a great summer because look how many buyins he’s up lol. I guess kudos to him for inventing a metric to make you feel good about being down a Milly.

I don't remember him saying he was having a great summer, he was pointing out the dissonance of being down a lot of money vs. being up a lot of buy-ins because of the high rollers. If you opt to play the high rollers, your entire WSOP ROI will be levered to like, five tournaments (and even then, one of those -the $250k- is weighted much more than the others) . In any other context on this forum, people would be screaming about sample size if judging someone based on results in five tournaments. But in this thread, that concept is non-existent lol