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03-31-2016 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Like a moran, I bet NO on this Prop on Bovada..preparing to get hosed, thinking Bovada will pay off as long as no PEDS are discovered..
Bad spelling? Or awesome tribute to Jim Moran Jr.?
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03-31-2016 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Bill Perkins (Guy) ‎@bp22

@DanBilzerian 25 miles away, controversial van removed 100ish miles out, no doubt Dan smoked this on a few drugs & adrenaline #EgoMotivation

Calling for Bovada to VOID this wager..


It looks like it was cleared with Bill Perkins beforehand. The language of the Bovada bet is if Dan wins his bet with Bill.
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03-31-2016 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by onemoretimes
Dan seems like a major pussy now. Seriously who makes a bike riding bet, then goes and changes the whole dynamic of what real bike riding is. An average scummy hustler I would expect this from. Dans just been put in that catagory. Guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Yeah, that would never happen before, certainly not among gentlemen.

Oh wait:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_America's_Cup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_America's_Cup
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03-31-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu Ungar
Bill Perkins (Guy) ‎@bp22

@DanBilzerian 25 miles away, controversial van removed 100ish miles out, no doubt Dan smoked this on a few drugs & adrenaline #EgoMotivation

Calling for Bovada to VOID this wager..
I'm confused, why is this guy happy he just lost 1 mil.
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03-31-2016 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MonkeyMonkey
I'm confused, why is this guy happy he just lost 1 mil.
He just doesn't care about it. Not caring too much about money improves quality of life a lot.

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Originally Posted by Monorail
(And Dan has most certainly read this thread in the past)
Why would he? He has somebody who collects every piece about him on the internet and brings stuff to his attention if needed/wanted.
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03-31-2016 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MonkeyMonkey
I'm confused, why is this guy happy he just lost 1 mil.
man that's the goal in life
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03-31-2016 , 04:04 PM
Can't believe Perkins didn't square away the drafting issue before Dan left Vegas. Perkins could have just handed Dan $600k and saved us all some time.

The last 100 miles of the course is the easiest imho. Removing the van at that point after Dan was able to use it through the rougher desert sections hardly mattered.

Also, Dan got a little lucky with the weather. It could have easily been twenty degrees warmer this time of year.

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03-31-2016 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SenatorKevin
Guessing you're not a lawyer.
I am. I could argue either side of the argument with respect to whether he breached sub-paragraph 2. of their deal. However, I believe it is much much easier arguing that he breached it than the alternative.

As simplistically as it can possible be put:

Q1. Mr. B, you would agree with me that the Van in question is a motorized vehicle correct? Yes

Q2. And you would also agree with me that van assisted you in your completion of this challenge isnt that correct? I don't understand what you mean by that.

Q3. Ok, had it not been for the van, it would have been more difficult for you to complete the challenge? Uhhhhh


Thank you.

No more questions.
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03-31-2016 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsnotatumah
I am. I could argue either side of the argument with respect to whether he breached sub-paragraph 2. of their deal. However, I believe it is much much easier arguing that he breached it than the alternative.

As simplistically as it can possible be put:

Q1. Mr. B, you would agree with me that the Van in question is a motorized vehicle correct? Yes

Q2. And you would also agree with me that van assisted you in your completion of this challenge isnt that correct? I don't understand what you mean by that.

Q3. Ok, had it not been for the van, it would have been more difficult for you to complete the challenge? Uhhhhh


Thank you.

No more questions.
So I guess you're assuming that the witness wouldn't be well prepared, after having the advice of counsel, on how to answer those questions.

Better legal question: Who drafted the "rules" (the contract)? Perkins? Against whom does the law strictly construe contracts? The draftsman.

The commonly understood interpretation of "mechanical assistance" does not include riding behind a van. It more likely means motorized assistance.
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03-31-2016 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EYESCREW
The last 100 miles of the course is the easiest imho. Removing the van at that point after Dan was able to use it through the rougher desert sections hardly mattered.
Knowing nothing about the wind, which might change things, I believe you have this backwards. When it is hilly, drafting doesn't matter much. Especially climbing under 10MPH, you get nothing from a draft. The place that it matters is on the flats and on descents. So if he couldn't draft in the flat 100 miles of the ride, then that's where it would have mattered most. Seeing that he was only riding 14 or 15 MPH early on the flats, it may not have mattered much at all. Sure, as a pro with the pack going nearly 30MPH, drafting matters a ton. At 17 or 18 (normal rec rider) it helps. You start going much slower than that, and the aero stuff just matters less.

You want to screw people on a group ride, you go to the front and pull hard on the climbs. Then you tuck in and draft the flats and downhills. People will hate you, quickly.
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Also, Dan got a little lucky with the weather. It could have easily been twenty degrees warmer this time of year.
He seemed to be suffering in the cold.

It could still be that the car thing was a big deal and that he got really lucky on weather.
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03-31-2016 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsnotatumah
I am. I could argue either side of the argument with respect to whether he breached sub-paragraph 2. of their deal. However, I believe it is much much easier arguing that he breached it than the alternative.

As simplistically as it can possible be put:

Q1. Mr. B, you would agree with me that the Van in question is a motorized vehicle correct? Yes

Q2. And you would also agree with me that van assisted you in your completion of this challenge isnt that correct? I don't understand what you mean by that.

Q3. Ok, had it not been for the van, it would have been more difficult for you to complete the challenge? Uhhhhh


Thank you.

No more questions.
Uhhh.... watching Judge Judy doesn't make you a lawyer. Weak try actually.

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03-31-2016 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Knowing nothing about the wind, which might change things, I believe you have this backwards. When it is hilly, drafting doesn't matter much. Especially climbing under 10MPH, you get nothing from a draft.

Find the mistake?
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03-31-2016 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by APokerJoker2
Bad spelling? Or awesome tribute to Jim Moran Jr.?
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/get-a-brain-morans

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Originally Posted by MonkeyMonkey
I'm confused, why is this guy happy he just lost 1 mil.
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Originally Posted by madlex
He just doesn't care about it. Not caring too much about money improves quality of life a lot.
Right, which means all this outrage on Perkins' behalf seems pretty misplaced.

And if the outrage from some of you is instead because you have money on the outcome, you probably shouldn't have wagered on an event that depended on the decision of a couple of multi-millionaires having fun.
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03-31-2016 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by likes
So I guess you're assuming that the witness wouldn't be well prepared, after having the advice of counsel, on how to answer those questions.

Better legal question: Who drafted the "rules" (the contract)? Perkins? Against whom does the law strictly construe contracts? The draftsman.

The commonly understood interpretation of "mechanical assistance" does not include riding behind a van. It more likely means motorized assistance.


I believe you need to re-read sub paragraph 2 of the caveat which was attached @ Perkins Twitter (2858).
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03-31-2016 , 06:12 PM
Perkins gives zero ****s about the money. He just likes to pay people to do things that make them suffer (see his lunge bet with Antonio). He's paying $600k for some entertainment, like when you broke-ass non-billionaires give some street-busker $5 for a song and dance.

Last edited by gregorio; 03-31-2016 at 06:38 PM.
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03-31-2016 , 06:12 PM
Bill Perkins is ****ing awesome
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03-31-2016 , 08:24 PM
Bill Perkins doesn't care about the million dollars, he's enjoying seeing Rick Saloman pissed off. Apparently Rick was going nuts because of the van lol
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03-31-2016 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCanoe
Bill Perkins is ****ing awesome
Oh stop. He's not going to pay the likes of you to be his friend
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03-31-2016 , 08:55 PM
If he doesn't care about a million dollars why doesn't he go hang out at childrens hospitals and pay off families medical bills.

He'd probably have to hold it over the families headfirst and make them degrade themselves for it but at least it'd be going to good causes instead of rich degeneration manchildren

I know it's his money..he "earned" it and all..but this guy Bill Perkins doesn't seem cool at all to me
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03-31-2016 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by azimma
If he doesn't care about a million dollars why doesn't he go hang out at childrens hospitals and pay off families medical bills.

He'd probably have to hold it over the families headfirst and make them degrade themselves for it but at least it'd be going to good causes instead of rich degeneration manchildren

I know it's his money..he "earned" it and all..but this guy Bill Perkins doesn't seem cool at all to me
A wild BernieBot has appeared!
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03-31-2016 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Knowing nothing about the wind, which might change things, I believe you have this backwards. When it is hilly, drafting doesn't matter much. Especially climbing under 10MPH, you get nothing from a draft. The place that it matters is on the flats and on descents. So if he couldn't draft in the flat 100 miles of the ride, then that's where it would have mattered most. Seeing that he was only riding 14 or 15 MPH early on the flats, it may not have mattered much at all. Sure, as a pro with the pack going nearly 30MPH, drafting matters a ton. At 17 or 18 (normal rec rider) it helps. You start going much slower than that, and the aero stuff just matters less.

You want to screw people on a group ride, you go to the front and pull hard on the climbs. Then you tuck in and draft the flats and downhills. People will hate you, quickly.

He seemed to be suffering in the cold.

It could still be that the car thing was a big deal and that he got really lucky on weather.
If it didn't matter then why the **** would he do it.
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03-31-2016 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by azimma
If he doesn't care about a million dollars why doesn't he go hang out at childrens hospitals and pay off families medical bills.

He'd probably have to hold it over the families headfirst and make them degrade themselves for it but at least it'd be going to good causes instead of rich degeneration manchildren

I know it's his money..he "earned" it and all..but this guy Bill Perkins doesn't seem cool at all to me
Oh you have a clue about why he gives to charities?
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03-31-2016 , 09:45 PM
in the end Perkins doesn't give a f about the money, he'll pay. Rick will probably be let off the hook as he has a good argument Dan violated the rules.

Who knows how the sports books who took bets on it will rule. wouldn't be surprised if they just cancel all the bets.
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03-31-2016 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by azimma
If he doesn't care about a million dollars why doesn't he go hang out at childrens hospitals and pay off families medical bills.

He'd probably have to hold it over the families headfirst and make them degrade themselves for it but at least it'd be going to good causes instead of rich degeneration manchildren

I know it's his money..he "earned" it and all..but this guy Bill Perkins doesn't seem cool at all to me
When they made the bet:
@DanBilzerian I think I will split my winnings between charity and a trip with friends to Southeast Asia #thankyoucomeagain



http://www.pokerlistings.com/perkins...can-t-do-81238
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Pempus: We talked about your poker game getting better every year, but would you say your ability to make your friends sweat in prop bets is also improving?

Perkins: Yeah, I try to think of ones that are possible. Ones that are impossible are no fun because you want to see an attempt, but you want ones where you can get an edge. The bets that you can accomplish only by doing ridiculous things can be fun. I would say that in one out of every four prop bets a charity is involved. There is a good cause attached to 25 percent of our ridiculousness.
Antonio also donated all the money from the lunge prop bet to charity

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03-31-2016 , 10:07 PM
Antonio had the tougher challenge and faced it like a man...urinating in a bottle was not sharp play
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