And people say 12-comma sentences are urban myths.

facts are facts....you owed money. You didnt pay the money. Then you demean him by saying its such a small amount. It obviously means something to him and to be honest just over this thread and your response I wouldnt even consider playing one of your events.

Someones lacking marketing skills here

He seemed to jump offline when this came up. Probably never to return.

A little bit below the belt don't you think?

lol kid rock tickets.

Honestly i knew i would never get the tickets i just wanted to wait and see how many lies I would be told

Why would you make this up? Looks like he just left right after posting.

There doesn't really seem to be anything out there that would suggest this is a shady organization, just seems like someone really dropped the ball...

sorry did i miss somewhere what happened to the guy who got 1st and beat you HU? did he get his 10k seat?

safe to say if he got his 10k seat and wasnt a shill that g0d knows these charity events have people in there like that, i know first hand, that you not getting your tickets isnt a "scam" right? 10k > a fake redneck concert tickets


keep us posted OP and gl hope you get the clear compensation you deserve

What he doesnt know is , that I influenced at least 15 people to go and play these mtts..... I also know the entire Raleigh poker scene and I WILL let all my friends know how I was scammed. A lot of them have already read this thread and wont ever go play.

As for all the name dropping , apparently his concern is only being "someone" in the community, not being trustworthy and respectable as he wishes his charity to look.

If you say you are going to do something then you should be man enough to follow thru...... Dont lie and repeat the lies. If he had said sorry man no tickets and no way of getting them, that would have been cool. Instead you tell lies and avoid being honest then theres a character flaw and when u involve that with charities, it doesnt mix

The OP seems to have been way more patient than a lot of other people would have been in his shoes and most would have posted much, much sooner.

UCARE is not a scam. Jack Walls' father passed away from cancer in 2009 and he has been working diligently to help many families in need. I was at the event in Richmond last month and it was an amazing event. Any dealings I've had with Jack have been nothing but professional. There may have been some sort of issue at that previous event but Jack did make it right. And you'll note that whomever he was dealing with in that situation is no longer associated with UCARE. The tourneys are drawing a great following and drawing nearly 200 players per event they have to be doing something right.

Would like to hear about this.

Well one of you has this wrong, hoping it's MarkHoke who is wrong and not the President of the charity..

Also, I'm assuming this is Mark Hoke from ShortStacked Radio, if so, you should probably know what you're posting before you do especially if it contradicts that of Jack Walls post regarding his father.

Someone missed the part about being on charity navigators as you can see I posted about it, and I have apoligized to Shaun about the mistake and told him I would make it right. There have not been any lies, and the name dropping was not to talk about how great the charity is, but to show that if it was supposedly a scam, why would so many people and organizations back it.

I wasn't trying to be petty about his prize either and I admit that 6 months is a long time to wait, and I even said in the post, that at one point, with everything going on, i honestly forgot about Shaun. also, like I said before, I was told by our accounting department that they were sending out a check, and if he has not gotten it, I will see to it personally that he does indeed get it.

I have been more than honest with Shaun and like I said before, I have always responded to his emails and have tried to get this resolved. I mean, seriously, in 6 tournaments, we have had one mistake happen, which originally wasn't our fault, and somehow, now we are a scam? How does that make sense?? The ball was dropped, but it is and will get taken care of, and that should be the end of it.

I promise that Shaun will get reimbursed for the ticket problem, and am truly upset that the problem occured in the first place. I could care less about what is said about me in this forum, but I do not want this charity affected because of one problem from a donation that was given to us. That is all I can say about that.

Also, Mark did make a mistake. My father is currently battling cancer. He was diagnosed in 2008, but he has not passed away.

I assume they did the background checks prior to bringing on Chino?

Who needs prizes? Advertise your tournaments as a chance to get Chino'd by cancer.

I made an error. I'm sure no one ever has on 2+2.

Honestly, for a President of a Cancer Charity organization your tone is a bit out of line and you come off as a rude individual in my opinion. You could care less? You should always care, and should strive to do the right thing. The time frames of responding to Shaun's emails I'm sure were less than par, and it shows that you do care what is said about you on this forum because as Shaun told you, he would go public with this on 2p2, and you responded right away to that email. Also, shows you care enough that only a couple hours into Shaun's original post about the charity MTT, you create an account and come right in posting!

You have Chino Rheem at your events? Do you know that he is a confirmed scammer? And has scammed poker players and friends out of hundred of thousands of dollars. You should do a background check on the pros you invite to your events, as you say your partners run checks on your charity organization as well before partnering, just a thought.

Mark Hoke apparently isn't aware of much in this situation, nor should his post be taken with any creditability. He needs to get his facts straight before posting IMO, as it just hurts you case, seeing as he isn't even aware of your fathers condition yet posting as if he is.

To JW1979. Maybe if you did care about what people on this forum thought about you your issue wouldnt be such a big deal. Not paying up in the amount of time you said you would and then just "forgetting about Shaun" makes you look a lot worse than you think it does. If you pay to play you expect to be paid if you win. Not to be "forgotten about".

You must be kidding Jack . You say you have been more than honest with Shaun and always replied to his e-mails ??

Yeah maybe after a few weeks to say he would get his tickets
but what good is replying to e-mails weeks and months later and
not resolving the problem.

How on earth is that being honest ??

whoa relax there i AGREE WITH YOU, i was just asking a simple question about what about the guy who got 1st and won a $10,000 seat?

so what happened to him?

Turbulious, you are right. I did come off as rude, but only because an organization that works so hard to help people is being attacked. I apoligize if my comments offended anyone, as that was in no way what I was trying to do. I am just trying to stand up for what this organization stands for, that is all.

And, Chino Rheem was a last second addition to our Richmond event by Deepstacks because Tristan Wade was injured in a car accident 2 weeks before the event. I understand that Chino has had alot of problems, but in talking to him at the event, he sounds as if he is trying to correct his image and for his sake I hope he can.

Earlier, as I had stated, I honestly don't care about what is said about me, but I do care about what is said about this organization. I responded to his post, not because of me, but because he called the charity a scam. As stated by another in here earlier, there is nothing done by this organization to merit it being called a scam, other than someone dropped the ball on his prize. I take full responsibility for that, as I should have never given out a prize that we did not physically have in our hands in the first place. We had another organization, Chips for Charity, that ran that event for us, and sense then we have learned from some of the things that happened in that event.

I appreciate everyone's opinion, and it's a god given right to have one, but we are trying to do the right thing with these events, and I just want people to see that and understand it.