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Can we discuss Cereus specifically? Can we discuss Cereus specifically?

05-22-2011 , 03:35 PM
selling 20k of AP at 50c/1

PM ME.. have many trades in the highstakes thread
05-22-2011 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperJez
Mega lol, cereus - deceiving the doj but unable to pull the wool over nvgs eyes
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Originally Posted by Euthanizer
Americans can STILL access through Find User tab under Game Info.
Americans can also still play as long as they have a non-US IP address. I just accessed the site on a non-US IP address and was able to play, and I have a US mailing address.
05-22-2011 , 04:11 PM
Since it appears most player money is tied up by the DoJ in frozen accounts, a coordinated letter writing campaign coupled with a decent PR push would be the most profitable use of US player's time. I think such a group formed but may have been handed off to the PPA (not the best strat).
05-22-2011 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ElevenGrover
Since it appears most player money is tied up by the DoJ in frozen accounts, a coordinated letter writing campaign coupled with a decent PR push would be the most profitable use of US player's time. I think such a group formed but may have been handed off to the PPA (not the best strat).
I agree with this, and think many other US players with balances on Cereus would be willing to take a decent amount of their time to help out. However, most players are probably looking for someone who can take charge and tell them what to do. I believe GatorXP has been in contact with a few people and has a list of players/account balances, but as far as I know there has been no new info from him recently.
05-22-2011 , 06:17 PM
Good point and I suggested using a skype group to co-ordinate this effort. I've been in touch with GatorXP who apparently heard from the PPA and they pretty much said there is nothing you can do to impress the DOJ until cereus makes something official. We know that's not going to happen ever.

Our only chances of getting paid is the DOJ route. I was very optimistic after the DOJ agreement but not anymore. The lack of consistency in non-US payouts is worrisome.
05-22-2011 , 06:51 PM
Euro donk - got 250 after 15 days and i cashed out another 500$ 10 days ago and its not processed
05-22-2011 , 07:11 PM
just lost my last $11 on the dime (now $2k grntd reduced from $5k - still with an overlay lol)

gg cereus looks like you've shat it (no i wont be re-depositing)

tc now

(UK)
05-22-2011 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Viers Mill Rd
I agree with this, and think many other US players with balances on Cereus would be willing to take a decent amount of their time to help out. However, most players are probably looking for someone who can take charge and tell them what to do. I believe GatorXP has been in contact with a few people and has a list of players/account balances, but as far as I know there has been no new info from him recently.
PM sent to Gator with my balance
05-22-2011 , 10:07 PM
I got 9k on UB, i wanna help..what can i do?
05-22-2011 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Thinky
Good point and I suggested using a skype group to co-ordinate this effort. I've been in touch with GatorXP who apparently heard from the PPA and they pretty much said there is nothing you can do to impress the DOJ until cereus makes something official. We know that's not going to happen ever.

Our only chances of getting paid is the DOJ route. I was very optimistic after the DOJ agreement but not anymore. The lack of consistency in non-US payouts is worrisome.
Very Correct Thinky, there is nothing we can do in the US until Cereus actually doesnt pay. The DOJ isnt concerned with our plight u can be assured of that.
Once Cereus does not pay us, then it may be possible to put public and even legal pressure on the DOJ to pay us, But as long as they are still working on it, there is nothing we can do that will likely have much effect.

Our only possible action at this time is to sue internationally which will be extremely expensive, if it is even possible. I believe the outcome of the case may be mute.

I think that if they can pay us they will, if not they fold, in which case we are not likely to get paid either way.

I will be looking for an update from the KGC this week and will keep everyone informed.

Good Luck to everyone.
05-23-2011 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bemcd
only way they're gonna be able to run a non-US site is if they payout the US players. Once they do that, they will be able to silence all the critics. and IF by some miracle they did it before FTP, then I'm certain not only would they have a viable non-US site, but also a site that would be in much better shape for a return to the US, at the very least they would position themselves better for a partnership deal with a bigger company..

I'm not sure why they don't start paying out the US players incrementally. start with the big ones first and work your way down. By the time you get down to accts of under ..say 500 dollars you could open it up to all the remaining players. I'm certain they would have to pay out 100 pct of all accts, bc so many people with smaller accts wont even bother. (like my AP acct with 5 bucks on it)

If news got out that the US players were starting to get paid, however slow the process was, it would be better for non-US players' faith in the site imo, as thus their business as a whole.
'only way they're gonna be able to run a non-US site is if they payout the US players. '
>> You mean the only way is when they start paying all NON US players now and quick, if they do that i would still play there some part of my time.
If they pay US players now and not to NON US players, i would NOT play a single hand on that site anymore. They better do NON US cash outs a bit more consistent and more players will play again. At least i would.
05-23-2011 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorXP
there is nothing we can do in the US until Cereus actually doesnt pay. The DOJ isnt concerned with our plight u can be assured of that.
Once Cereus does not pay us, then it may be possible to put public and even legal pressure on the DOJ to pay us, But as long as they are still working on it, there is nothing we can do that will likely have much effect.
I disagree with this. The DoJ is a political cop shop. It has masters who provide oversight and those masters are elected. There is plenty which could be/should be done instead of waiting around to be told what happened to your money.
05-23-2011 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tilo
'only way they're gonna be able to run a non-US site is if they payout the US players. '
>> You mean the only way is when they start paying all NON US players now and quick, if they do that i would still play there some part of my time.
If they pay US players now and not to NON US players, i would NOT play a single hand on that site anymore. They better do NON US cash outs a bit more consistent and more players will play again. At least i would.
Im non-us and haven't got paid.
05-23-2011 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by antnx
Im non-us and haven't got paid.
let me guess, u were using moneybookers right?
05-23-2011 , 02:58 AM
Yeah, and i requested check by courier on 17-th. Still in requested status. IDK it would be kinda silly to cancel that and try to deposit via netteller, instadepit or visa now.
05-23-2011 , 03:10 AM
havent been paid now for over 7 days, canadian using instadebit
05-23-2011 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ElevenGrover
Nothing, Victor and Gildwulf were trolling me yesterday and in scrolling through the thread today, I noticed Victor was now banned. An odd coincidence having nothing to do with this thread I take it.
disagreeing and pointing out flaws and conflicts of interest is not equal to trolling.

i am thankfully unbanned-it was indeed largely unrelated to this thread and forum afaik- and in my off time i obv lurked this thread and i do appreciate your presence overall. your proselytizing is still irksome but it seems to have diminished greatly in recent weeks. further, you are not as self serving as i initially pegged.

not that my blessing is at all required here, but i did want to sincerely express my appreciation for aspects of ur presence.
05-23-2011 , 04:29 AM
UK player using neteller, still not been paid a cent since black friday. Request of $250 from 30/4 still in the pending stage.
05-23-2011 , 05:49 AM
(Non-US Player)
Request for $500 check by courier (535 total incl processing fee - figured greater chance of this option working than check by un-registered mail) requested 17th May.
Processed on 21st May!
No tracking number given (FedEx) but just going to wait and see.
Hope is a dangerous thing but maybe just maybe...
05-23-2011 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tripscraven
UK player using neteller, still not been paid a cent since black friday. Request of $250 from 30/4 still in the pending stage.
+1 requested 500 last 12/05 neteller still in pending stage
05-23-2011 , 07:11 AM
My $500 MB withdrawal request from 16 may got rejected.
Has anyone received money recently?
Has anyone gotten money through check withdrawal?
05-23-2011 , 07:17 AM
will post as soon as anything is received.
marked as processed in my account after receiving the following mail:

Dear XXX

Your Payout of 343 EUR for Account ID 9XXXXX has been submitted.

For more details on the status of your request, please click here.

Please note that the fee for this payout request will be deducted from your poker account, and not from the payout amount.

We thank you for your continued business and are always available if you should have any questions.

UB Team
05-23-2011 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mynameisnemo
(Non-US Player)
Request for $500 check by courier (535 total incl processing fee - figured greater chance of this option working than check by un-registered mail) requested 17th May.
Processed on 21st May!
No tracking number given (FedEx) but just going to wait and see.
Hope is a dangerous thing but maybe just maybe...
Must be nice, I cancelled mb and requested a check over a week ago sigh.
05-23-2011 , 09:29 AM
I've had a $200 Neteller request pending since 5th May, my request before that was cancelled. I've more-or-less written my balance off in my mind, I'll consider it an unexpected bonus if the money ever comes though. (UK)
05-23-2011 , 09:36 AM
As have I,
have been in the same boat with payots pending then eventually being returned.
Still don't know if anything will arrive but the fact that they are processing check withdrawals in batches means it's at least a step in the right direction.

Supposed to be 5 days to receive it.

Will keep this post updated if / when my play money turns into anything tangible

So you're saying there's a chance!

      
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