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06-25-2015 , 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dantes

Counterfeiters tend to be the most likely to demand payment in real currency.

https://youtu.be/bMfuz2q4TFo

Great video, thanks for sharing.

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He also reported bakes posting that PM. Quick, mods, delete that post!

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06-25-2015 , 03:11 PM

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Guys, you are pretty close to becoming cyber bullies. What is it that you are trying to accomplish by ganging up on a young man instead of focusing on your lives?

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06-25-2015 , 03:13 PM

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great quote from flushdraw here: http://www.flushdraw.net/news/misc/d...ine-sites-tos/

"In a couple of responses to a 2+2 thread about the latest accusations, Hastings, who posts as “stinger88,” refused to offer direct comment. Hastings also demurred when contacted directly by FlushDraw, writing, “I cannot publicly confirm or deny. It’s not all about me, it would be selfish to answer your question. I’m sorry.” "

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06-25-2015 , 03:13 PM

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I think he is probably just responding like that. I am sure he knows what he did was not right,but I think he believes that going forward what good will it do to make this into a big huge thing. It's not going to help anything so he is sayin why make it so big that it gains so muh attention and casts a dark light over poker. I mean it's like anykne who does something wrong. They know the are doing it they just hope not to get caught. They figure the risk may be worth the reward so why not take a chance? I mean if u were going to counterfeit money would u counterfeit $10,000?? U probaly bet the same jail time if u counterfeit 10 million so u may as well do the bigger amount. U also have to remember when a person is depressed sometime they are not thinking as clearly about life decisions as they should be. We should have some type of understanding before we hang the guy.

Id say giving the guy a forum to do a REAL interview and cut all the pokahballarockzinringsshipit bull**** is the opposite of hanging him. the truth will set him free.

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06-25-2015 , 03:14 PM

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Guys, you are pretty close to becoming cyber bullies. What is it that you are trying to accomplish by ganging up on a young man instead of focusing on your lives?

please tell me this is some kind of weird level.

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06-25-2015 , 03:14 PM

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Guys, you are pretty close to becoming cyber bullies. What is it that you are trying to accomplish by ganging up on a young man instead of focusing on your lives?

omg, not cyberbulling

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06-25-2015 , 03:15 PM

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Guys, you are pretty close to becoming cyber bullies. What is it that you are trying to accomplish by ganging up on a young man instead of focusing on your lives?

Maybe because our lives are directly affected, either personally or through the integrity and level playing field of the market place in which we make a living?

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06-25-2015 , 03:19 PM

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Maybe because our lives are directly affected, either personally or through the integrity and level playing field of the market place in which we make a living?

If this is true I probably don't want to make a federal crime out of this then. The less publicity it receives the more likely it won't become a black eye on poker.

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06-25-2015 , 03:22 PM

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If this is true I probably don't want to make a federal crime out of this then. The less publicity it receives the more likely it won't become a black eye on poker.

So cheating and covering up said cheating is the best way forward?

Besides, this is small scale publicity pretty much confined within the community. Remember where you are. NVG ain't the globe at large.

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06-25-2015 , 03:24 PM

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So cheating and covering up said cheating is the best way forward?

Besides, this is small scale publicity pretty much confined within the community. Remember where you are. NVG ain't the globe at large.

1. I have no ideas what nvg is
2. I am not saying cover I up I am just saying don't make a huge deal out of it.
3.'let the effected people hash it out

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06-25-2015 , 03:25 PM

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Ok nvg is news views and gossip just figured it out

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06-25-2015 , 03:25 PM

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great quote from flushdraw here: http://www.flushdraw.net/news/misc/d...ine-sites-tos/

"In a couple of responses to a 2+2 thread about the latest accusations, Hastings, who posts as “stinger88,” refused to offer direct comment. Hastings also demurred when contacted directly by FlushDraw, writing, “I cannot publicly confirm or deny. It’s not all about me, it would be selfish to answer your question. I’m sorry.” "

Brian Hastings: not gonna be selfish

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06-25-2015 , 03:26 PM

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My fkn god, I actually spit coffee on my shirt. WP

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06-25-2015 , 03:29 PM

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1. I have no ideas what nvg is

2. I am not saying cover I up I am just saying don't make a huge deal out of it.

3.'let the effected people hash it out

1. I have no ideas what nvg is
News Views & Gossip i.e where you are now.

2. I am not saying cover I up I am just saying don't make a huge deal out of it.
Not saying I agree with this but my point was that it is a huge deal but only here in NVG and this little microcosm on it's own is not enough to ruin poker.

3.'let the effected people hash it out
Like I said, many IIT are affected and we are all indirectly affected enough to warrant the whole affair being transparent imo

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06-25-2015 , 03:30 PM

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1. I have no ideas what nvg is

make me think of one of my old jokes.

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06-25-2015 , 03:31 PM

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I've noticed a few people using this argument so far, brushing aside VPN'ng from the US as okay because it's circumventing an unfair law.

But it screws over people who live abroad and those who legitimately travel abroad to play by making the games a small percentage tougher. You're not going to find any/many fish VPNng.

We don't really have any control over pretty ****ty things in poker like seating scripts and coaching/ghosting, but when there's literally a law and rule out there preventing someone from playing from the US, and it hurts the games when people break it, I don't think we should be brushing it off

In a vacuum VPN'ing from the US isn't unethical in any way. Tough **** if it makes the games harder for you. It's just unfortunate you can't VPN without multiaccounting if you're well known.

Ironically what buried hastings in this situation is that he actually tried to do the right thing and let people know it was him using the account. He could have just not told anyone.

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06-25-2015 , 03:31 PM

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Maybe because our lives are directly affected, either personally or through the integrity and level playing field of the market place in which we make a living?

Can you explain how cyber bullying rectifies the situation or improves your life?

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06-25-2015 , 03:32 PM

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He also reported bakes posting that PM. Quick, mods, delete that post!

Hahahhahaha

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06-25-2015 , 03:34 PM

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"I played as NoelHayes, I don't think it was wrong, I'm not sorry, I'm not paying anyone back, and you can all suck my balls" would've been a much more admirable statement than the intelligence-insulting garbage Brian has spewed in those posts/PM.

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06-25-2015 , 03:35 PM

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Can you explain how cyber bullying rectifies the situation or improves your life?

Transparency, dude.

We want to know. The guy was cheating people ITT and cheating the community. He refused to own up for days. Then his first response was quite frankly horrific. People are rightly calling him out for his lies and subsequent further BS and attempts at manipulation and victim blaming. People are simply calling him out. He is no victim here. He is not being bullied.

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06-25-2015 , 03:36 PM

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I'm just gunna say that I think Brian's explanation is quite reasonable. I highly doubt that he specifically chose that account to create an unfair edge- he obviously crushed online poker under his own handle as well. Obviously the US poker regulations make playing online poker in America a chore, and it could be dangerous for a well-known player like stinger to play under his own handle from the states where he is recognizable and would need to keep a large-sized roll on the site considering the stakes he plays.

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06-25-2015 , 03:37 PM

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I say winning players already are making money legitimately so they don't need to resort to unethical practice to do so

QFT?

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06-25-2015 , 03:45 PM

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I'm just gunna say that I think Brian's explanation is quite reasonable. I highly doubt that he specifically chose that account to create an unfair edge- he obviously crushed online poker under his own handle as well. Obviously the US poker regulations make playing online poker in America a chore, and it could be dangerous for a well-known player like stinger to play under his own handle from the states where he is recognizable and would need to keep a large-sized roll on the site considering the stakes he plays.

really hope you're trolling

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06-25-2015 , 03:46 PM

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I'm just gunna say that I think Brian's explanation is quite reasonable. I highly doubt that he specifically chose that account to create an unfair edge- he obviously crushed online poker under his own handle as well. Obviously the US poker regulations make playing online poker in America a chore, and it could be dangerous for a well-known player like stinger to play under his own handle from the states where he is recognizable and would need to keep a large-sized roll on the site considering the stakes he plays.

But then going ahead and making bracelet bets worth half a million, telling some people about the MA(including giving tells away on a podcast), and drawing more attention to himself by outing another player about a borderline angleshoot?

How did he think to get away with that? By writing PMs about the image of poker?

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06-25-2015 , 03:46 PM

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QFT?

I recognize that quote, its from the #2000 thread in HSNL where i told exactly what was going on in the big online games 7 years ago and was lambasted and yelled down by the pokah ballaz of the time only to have everything i said proven true 10x over.

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