I certainly will not cashout until i am sure the money doesnt bounce.

Its very bad if you pay fee on cheques, then claim it back. Its a hassle.

I heard recently that US players MIGHT be allowed in the future to play online poker from Native American/Indian reservations while paying the Indians a small fee. Anyone else hear this?

Works for me. Stars says specifically that ALL funds in your account are available for withdrawal.

Dexter are you just speculating or do you have any real information to share? A link would be sufficient.

Thanks

Thats actually a good idea. the PPA is assumely fighting for getting all straighten up for US Players.

Better give it to them then the gov. besides, some of us already thought the money is lost anyway.

What is interesting to see is that the DOJ declared to explicitly ENCOURAGE PS and FT to do the market outside the states. Lawyers never put a statement they dont have to, so something is strange

Happy for all u guys out there, be careful next time and don't leave ur life roll out there on some sites

Yes i have it let me do an echeck for the full amount...it was shortly after this thread started prolly 4 hrs ago....Also, I was able to cash in all stellar rewards and FPP's...

Not sure now tho its looks as if some ppl are having some troubles, I did receive a confirmation email as well saying give it 72 hours to process....hope this helps and gl all with the monies

Email:
Please allow 72 hours for processing of ECHECK cashouts and another 3-10 business days for the funds to be available in your ECHECK account balance.

4/20 puff puff pass pass not from depression a lil sigh of relief and celebration

Wife won't hate me anymore as soon as it clears

Okay, I'm not a tax attorney, but I'm sick of all these posts by people in other countries speculating on our tax laws. Seriously, the IRS is not like the FBI. They do not have the capacity or the manpower to "track down" all of the millions of individuals depositing checks into millions of bank accounts with the wave of a magic wand and "investigate" whether or not they have paid taxes on these monies. It doesn't work like that.

You pay your taxes, THEN if the IRS suspects something fishy, you get audited. This is not a "guilty until proven innocent" situation.

Again, I'm not an expert. But I am American (for now). These fear-mongering "opinions" are really uncalled for.

That's completely subjective and while you may not agree with the law its still the law and if you break it and get caught you deserve to get punished. You can't just let people pick and choose which laws they would like to follow.

in b4 online pokersites liquidity scandal

anybody who actually has worked with the IRS knows how much of a shoestring budget they are working on right now. My CPA said the last guy the IRS sent out for an audit was basically an intern and was trying to earn money for a few months.

Are people really claiming that if you put $20 and turn it into $20k you only get $20 since it was illegal?

Stars has explicitly stated that you get what your account balance reads, right?

Why are other people saying otherwise?

When will FTP be letting US players cash out?

(in best Max Bialystock voice) Asssssume Away....

I know I am viewing from afar, but from where I'm sitting the PPA have been anything but effective so far. They SHOULD be powerful and influential but I'm not sure they are. Maybe a new organisation will rise from these ashes that will have a coherent message and real gravitas with the lawmakers and politicians. I remain skeptical that the PPA will be able to.

I don't think truly regulated US poker is likely to happen due to the conflicting ideologies and views of the lawmakers however I think state-limited poker is a realistic and viable route to gun for in the short-term at least.

One of my gripes with the PPA is its US-centricity (I'd prefer a global poker players movement, talking for the good of the game globally), but now I guess that doesn't really matter.

I suspect as part of the discussion between the DOJ and Stars/FTP, the sites were complaining that the uncertainty around the legal action is severely impacting their (legitimately run) business outside the States, so as part of the agreement to get the US players money out, the DOJ agreed to state categorically that they have no truck with non-US players continuing to play.

I think thats all it is

Word! Never again!

guys stop giving these false information's with out any knowledge, these r life changing situations for many out there, just maintain some decency and be respectful, don't scare the hell out of them

Samesies! Good luck all!

from the stars domain name agreement article

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...17&hl=en&pli=1

Because the players are going to be further "enhancing" the US Federal government's monetary reward for initiating this action.

The players just haven't figured it out yet. They will, IMO.

For those who complain I keep harping on the tax liability implications... that is because I think most players are woefully ignorant and uninformed about IRS rules and regs... and if there were ever a time to learn, NOW is the time. Finding out "the hard way" will be very -EV, if I may use a term everyone here will understand.

LOL... how many US players will get a cashout?: 100%

How many were actually beating the game and have some tax liability?: ~5%

the money doesnt come from thin air. if someone has won it, someone else has lost it, and then some.

I am not american. FTP will not process my moneybookers cashout. Should I wait or should I withdraw by cheque?

IMO.... With thier budget, manpower and capabilities I think the PPA is doing as much as they can. I mean try going up against the US Government especially on an issue such as the one we are facing. Its not like they can just go in and start demanding this and that. That is unless they had 200 million dollars they could throw in the pockets of Senators and various politicians. And for those that think they are NOT doing enough, get your ass in thier and help out. The louder the voice the more likely you will get heard, as is evident with the recent news on us getting our funds back... this is of course IMO.

My thoughts on this are to look at the Netteller issue. All the funds made gambling were allowed to be returned. And lots of that was sports betting. I haven't seen anything confirming that concern above and believe we will get all of it back. No way to confirm atm.

damn i have money on ub. they prob aint got the money to payout all the us customers. prob a ponzi scheme

I feel for all you americans, i am non-US and i have cashed my entire roll apart from fpp's which i will change later £458 received by visa this morning and £217 i expect to get in the next 24hrs as per previous similar cashouts i play at PS.
A few things come to mind though in communist China and Russia you are free to deposit,withdraw and play online poker-but not in the land of the free and where the game was invented.
President Putin and the chinese leader must be laughing pretty loudly,in fact they can both play but Obama cannot,so much for human rights and the land of the free.
Your representatives are making you all look like the laughing stock of the world.
Oh and i got a bit of salt here,PS are offering non-US people a $200 reload bonus as of now.