Thanks, OP (if this is legit).

This seems very reasonable. Thanks for the info.

#2 delay reason seems like itll cause quite a bit of processing time, no?

Sorry, I am not sure. I'll check but I don t think that was finalized yet

You all can not be that desperate to fall for this. Can you? This is obviously total B.S. No one is "in the know", especially regarding the process for remission, because developing the process is one of the duties of the claims processor. It was even one of the duties described in the recruiting ad on the DOJ's web site! That's why they are the processor!

The amount of your balance be it $100 or $1,000,000 will have no bearing on how claims will be processed. Victims will be making applications for remission. The process for each will begin when the application is received.

Also, this poster is not even American. Look at the spelling of "cheque". Here, in the US, we spell it check! So we have a new member, not American that is "in the know"....I don't think so!

So noone can have a friend that works for the DOJ just because they live over seas? he couldnt have came over here for a while for work or something?

Just because his location is "over seas", doesnt mean hes there right now.

I'm sure that the DOJ is having a helping hand in what would be the quickest and fastest way to get this done.

dont want to defend a noob, but everything seems legit and not far fetched.

Not really imo. Incomplete deposits (according to what he posted) are already accounted, so it would just be a check to see if you got a transfer from anyone on that list.

The claims processor has to follow certain guide lines and one of those were paying the largest claims first. There were over 1 million accounts for US players which a fair amount have little or no balance.


And they can have friends, just not to the east, try the north.

I agree that it is more likely we won't know about how this will work for a while.

However, the rest of what you said is clearly flawed. Guessing someone isn't from a certain country because of the way they spell "check" is a joke. Also it would seem plausible to want to get the bigger balances out of the way first. Are the people who have even one penny on FTP important, obv yes, but it would make sense at least to me to get rid of all the big balances first. Hell I would guess that a majority of people who have <$100 on FTP prolly don't even care about it... And if we believe the GBT deal that's ~94% of players. So why not pay off material sums to players first, test the process, then open it up to the millions of lower balances?

Obv I have no clue how this is going to work and no clue if that guy is for real but it does seem, at lest to me, possible.

We have hearing your last sententce for 18 mos. now.

Its been a month, surely it shouldnt take 3 months to find a processor. A month and a half to 2 months should be long enough to weed out the companies that could do this or not.

But i do agree with everyones hesitation to believe this guy.... that was his first post.... but i didnt really think that this would drag out for a year+ like most people thought/think.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

Okay, I was wrong....you guys are that desperate.

I hope his "man in the know" doesn't tell you have get naked and stand on your head while you diddle yourself and have it recorded and posted on YouTube before you can get your "cheque".

Do yourselves a favor. Take 5 minutes and read the remission process handout from the DOJ:

http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/pette...%20Process.pdf

Google an actual remissions case like maybe this one:

http://www.pettersremission.com/Home.aspx

You should be able to see the remissions process is very formal, organized and detailed. It is a process governed by law and managed by the DOJ. In the Peters case the DOJ hired Rust Consulting as the processor. If you bother to read pay close attention to the disclaimer where it says:

Restored funds will be disbursed to all verified victims at the same time and no victim will receive priority of payment over another.

This is, I believe, typical of the way remissions are handled.

Evaluate for yourself what this clown is telling you against what you see and read. If you still find him credible then I guess you should charge up the camcorder and open a YouTube account!

Your bold part was a part for that specific case. Have they seen a remission case with this many victims before? Or this much money? I doubt it, so i think that them separating this into "groups" is a smart and quick way of doing it. Just because a few cases have been handled the same, doesnt mean that they cant do something different for this case. Not all cases are the same so therefore not all payment methods will be the same.

In all of these other remission processes have they had to get a 3rd party to handle the payouts?

I don't think it's that funny to be upset at paying back deposits. It's completely unfair to collect from people who have it in their accounts, but not from others who don't have funds in their account. It would seem too late to collect on 16 month old gambling debts, yet that is essentially what they are doing when they subtract back deposits from people cashing out. I (and others) will be paying for deposits while people who lost their manies essentially got a huge freeroll.

I never deposited to try and game the system. Unlike others, I only deposited what I was prepared to lose. I knew that deposits were not being withdrawn, but I'd seen this happen a few times before and the deposits always cleared a few weeks later. I've pretty much accepted through this whole process that I will end up paying back deposits when it's all said in done, but think about how unfair it is to only collect from people who actually have money in their full tilt accounts?

edit - looking back my first post was obviously lol stupid, my main point is it's just hugely unfair to only collect from people who still have money on the site.

Those poor people who aren't getting free money out of this

If you don't think they have enough latitude to modify the process so that the massive number of accounts that have a few pennies in them wouldn't be given as high a priority as the accounts with thousands of dollars in them, then you are the clown.

You should read your own links before you type. Of the estimated 1 million accounts, a great deal have very low balances, under $10, while others have 4,5 and 6 digit amounts. I think it can be considered hardship to hold back 5 digit amounts because your still processing accounts under $5.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/mn/pette...%20Process.pdf

Are there any exceptions to pro-rata distribution?

Priority can be granted to victims in cases where a pro-rata distribution would cause extreme
financial hardship, a particular victim has better proof of loss, has cooperated with the government
investigation, or other appropriate reasons.

So if 10 people each steal $1 million from a bank, but authorities only catch 5 of them, it is unfair to make those 5 repay the $1 million each because you haven't caught the other five robbers and made them repay?

So if me and 6 friends all go out and rob a bank, and only 2 of us get caught, the police should let us both go free? Seems unfair that the other 5 get away with it.

This can't be a real post.

My bold part WAS from a specific case, a real case, as an illustration of the way claims are typically handled. It is provided as an demonstrable example for people that actually want to look at how a real case has been handled in the past so they can use that information to formulate their own opinions on the likelihood of the path of remissions in this case.

Where is your information coming from? You continue to post over and over and over the same old crap with your unrealistic and unsubstantiated opinion about how this case is different so it must follow that something different is going to happen. But you have never bothered, not even once, to provide any real evidence to support your opinion.

I suppose in theory, the government could decide to NOT follow the law which governs the process and set up a taco stand in Kansas that all the victims can drive through and pick up their money. But, since there is no history of the government having ever done this I find it unlikely to happen.

The government has, in fact, handled remission case with this many victims and with this much money (or even more money...see Madoff Securities) and the one thing every one of big these cases with a lot of victims and a lot of money have in common is they take a long time to settle. But, you don't have to believe me, look them up for yourself, or would that require too much effort? I guess it's just easier to spout off than to actually put some investigative efforts into your opinions.

I hope you are typing a reply to Eli as we speak, that was what I was referring to for evidence after i read YOUR LINK!!!

Haters gonna hate!

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