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09-05-2011 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by random user
Me too..! I don't know the context but asking Phil Ivey that jacks question is embarrassing.
not as embarrassing as being so easily levelled.
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09-05-2011 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by meow_meow
not as embarrassing as being so easily levelled.
And even less embarrassing than a 60+ year old man (I am guessing) who clearly considers himself intellectually superior, who would bother spending time 'levelling' much younger people who are online due to playing poker... Or even those that wouldn't see how kind of sad that really was.
Like I said, I didn't know the context just read the post.
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09-05-2011 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Enervate
40
41 even.
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09-06-2011 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedLimiter
wtf is a gambling knowledge test? so much fail here
Here is a sample for everyone to test their knowledge. No using Google. Good luck.

How many sides on a dice?
Spoiler:
6

How many cards in a deck?
Spoiler:
52

How many clubs in said deck?
Spoiler:
13

What state is Las Vegas in?
Spoiler:
Nevada

What state is Atlantic City in?
Spoiler:
New Jersey

Does a flush beat a straight?
Spoiler:
I pray nobody really clicked on these, (especially if they where hoping for humor)


1-2 correct
3-4 correct
5-6 correct
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09-06-2011 , 02:18 AM
^^^LOL
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09-06-2011 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by poofinger
Here is a sample for everyone to test their knowledge. No using Google. Good luck.

How many sides on a dice?
Spoiler:
6

How many cards in a deck?
Spoiler:
52

How many clubs in said deck?
Spoiler:
13

What state is Las Vegas in?
Spoiler:
Nevada

What state is Atlantic City in?
Spoiler:
New Jersey

Does a flush beat a straight?
Spoiler:
I pray nobody really clicked on these, (especially if they where hoping for humor)


1-2 correct
3-4 correct
5-6 correct
6 for 6, BRING ON IVEY!
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09-06-2011 , 10:15 AM
Grundy saying put up for shut up:

http://sharkstaking.com/blog/milkybarkid/

He defo won $5mil+ from PLO shame he lost 2-3mil (if not more) playing NL
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09-06-2011 , 11:17 AM
time to test your theory, jungleman. maybe he'll take full tilt credit?
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09-06-2011 , 11:54 AM
If you're going to call someone a moron you should use spell check.
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09-06-2011 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
41 even.
odd
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09-06-2011 , 12:16 PM
So after the HU vs Ivey gambling bet what is next on the horizon?
Daliman vs Leatherass pee bottle filling comp would be good.
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09-06-2011 , 12:19 PM
I actually got 5 out of 6 cause I didn't know which state Atlantic City was in
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09-06-2011 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Daliman
6 for 6, BRING ON DALIMAN!
fyp good sir
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09-06-2011 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mukk85
If you're going to call someone a moron you should use spell check.
...moran
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09-06-2011 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by poofinger
Here is a sample for everyone to test their knowledge.

Does a flush beat a straight?
Not in three card poker.

Spoiler:
Daliman and Ivey probably know
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09-06-2011 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ce1ska
odd
That's been said.
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09-06-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rje8686
Grundy saying put up for shut up:

http://sharkstaking.com/blog/milkybarkid/

He defo won $5mil+ from PLO shame he lost 2-3mil (if not more) playing NL
Shouldn't he be showing how he can prove he made 8.7M+ or whatever that other graph said? Seems like a pretty large bet hedge to only try to prove like 60% of your claimed earnings.
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09-06-2011 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Harlequin99
But he can release the details of, for example, only the usernames under which he has won $5m total and not all his other usernames, where he has lost $4.9m. And for all we know, some of the sites he used to play on don't even exist any more.

Someone can take the bet, and then regardless of the evidence he provides, say it is not "beyond doubt". It is ridiculous for him to offer this bet since to my mind, he can't win it - the way it is worded, the onus is on him to prove beyond doubt that he has $5m in PLO. I struggle to see how he can do this, so I suspect the offer of the bet is not genuine.

Jungleman should take him up on it - this seems to be a freeroll at worst.
Most of his usernames from 2006 to 2009 (which is the period the graph covers) are pretty well known. If he sent his full database with all his PLO hands from the known accounts to a third party and then got the sites to send full hand histories from each account to the third party (which I expect most sites would be prepared to do if he covered their administration costs) and if they matched up very closely, I think it would prove it beyond any reasonable doubt. Say betfair provided 200k hands where he was up over $5m winning at 12BB/100+, it would be very unlikely that he'd be winning at that rate on one site and down millions on other sites, especially as he rarely played 100/200+.
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09-06-2011 , 04:52 PM
according to his graph he made ~243$/hand for 320k hands, iveys only like 50-60$/hand life time on ft no way in hell is grundy's real take the bet and ship the gold jm
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09-06-2011 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron C
according to his graph he made ~243$/hand for 320k hands, iveys only like 50-60$/hand life time on ft no way in hell is grundy's real take the bet and ship the gold jm
Ship the $78 mega!!
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09-06-2011 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ben wb
1 is not true at all. Anyone with a really high winrate will have a straight graph, even with very high variance. Try running it in a variance simulator. 2 is pretty meaningless since he's not played a lot of hands on tracked sites anyway, but PTR/HSDB and OPR combined he's up $100k on stars and another $240k in PLO on HSDB on full tilt so he has certainly still been successful on those sites. 3 - Why would he bother proving his results unless it was worth it. He's not tried to scam anyone so his reputation is not at stake anyway.
I assume that he is trying to use those results to "scam" his way into the poker consciousness and the Isildur challenge as he believes such will benefit other endeavours (Did Girah/JM/Haseeb not try the same thing?)

Having seen the Chino, Girah, Black Friday, French Kido scams exposed in the last few months I think it is a VERY safe bet that he is lying about something related to his results.
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09-06-2011 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by justonemoretime
I assume that he is trying to use those results to "scam" his way into the poker consciousness and the Isildur challenge as he believes such will benefit other endeavours (Did Girah/JM/Haseeb not try the same thing?)

Having seen the Chino, Girah, Black Friday, French Kido scams exposed in the last few months I think it is a VERY safe bet that he is lying about something related to his results.
I'd hate to see your slightly risky bets.
Elvis to show his arse at the London Olympics?
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09-06-2011 , 05:59 PM
Jungleman on Grundy's blog: "yo ben this is jungle, want to crossbook on the isildur challenge? i will have isildurs side. also would like to play you , if interested pm me on 2+2"

About time...
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09-06-2011 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by justonemoretime
I assume that he is trying to use those results to "scam" his way into the poker consciousness and the Isildur challenge as he believes such will benefit other endeavours (Did Girah/JM/Haseeb not try the same thing?)

Having seen the Chino, Girah, Black Friday, French Kido scams exposd in the last few months I think it is a VERY safe bet that he is lying about something related to his results.
The isildur challenge is open to anyone who has the money and he was already fairly well known since final tabling the ept main event, posting his results didn't suddenly make him a lot more famous. Having played 50/100 and higher for 5 years I think he's earnt the small amount of fame he has so I'm not sure why you think that would be a scam anyway.
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09-06-2011 , 07:06 PM
Seems like too many ppl want to believe everything's a scam these days.
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