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01-25-2015 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MyweeweeISGreen
I hope Beal wins at the end of all this. F the "bumbhunters" disgrace to poker. Punish them Andy punish them!

This is not an example of "bumbhunting". Beal showed up looking to play a pro.
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01-25-2015 , 05:47 AM
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
Isn't this a little like following a bout between George Foreman and Larry Holms? Both these guys are older than me. Can they really be playing at that high of a level poker? You can probably pick a random 22 yr old online HU grinder who would destroy either of them in a HU match.


Yea sure but i think you underestimate the difference of playing a game with 5 million in front of you or 25k it makes you think if you are raising somebody 250k, and if you mean a on-line game you are a even bigger ..... then you could loose it in 25 hands.
Because very few people can get it out of their mind and not think about that they are playing for/with 5 million.

But he i guess you do that every week right? hahahahaha dumb.ss
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01-25-2015 , 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mubsy Bogues
This is not an example of "bumbhunting". Beal showed up looking to play a pro.
Well it would be one of the biggest bumhunt in history right? LOL
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01-25-2015 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by elgrindo
Live variance in LHE Holdem and the fact they probably never played more than 10k hands, no one will ever know lol and the sample size won't ever "show" anything.
Maybe you can't calculate EV with < 10 K hands, but being able to tell if one player's a favorite over another can be done, in some cases, with 1 hand.
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01-25-2015 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AshleyC
If I had a gun put to my head on the winner over next 1k hands id prob go beal > Todd

Kinda absurd how the biggest limit holdem live game ever played is being played by a pro who couldn't beat small stakes limit online.
Well i think the money part and physical part is the key, and i mean by that that, if you play live you have the money right in front of you[you see the amount on the chips and know it is representing real money] and on-line it are numbers, and that is a big physiological difference[many studies proved it].
And the physical part is you see your opponents and they see you, and you realize that how you behave, look, move, is being watched and interpreted by the live player and it effects your play for sure.
So i think the actual skill and knowledge of the game is not very big if at all, i think it is all in the physical presence that makes a top on-line player not a top live player, and for the live player it is the speed and not seeing his opponent of on-line play, and therefore a [very?] different approach/math to the game is needed is what trows the live player playing on-line off.

But i do think that a on-line player easier adapts to live play then the other way around, and gus hanson is the poster-boy example i think.
But anyway that is my opinion based on my own experience, because i can play 48 hours live 5/10 euro nlhe, but 2 hours of 1/2 euro on-line and i go nuts from boredom, irritation and what-not, and i bet i am not the only one. LOL
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01-25-2015 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
How do you know that?



How many ppl can possibly play 50K/100K? It's not like there is any sort of game selecting going on unless you consider waiting years to be it.
I heard that tom dwan is on a plane to vegas, and jungle is right on his tail hahahahaha
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01-25-2015 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by luckofficial
No gif with todd humping the reporter with the face of andy beal?
I had the exact same thought scrolling through the thread after I saw that Brunson won.
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01-25-2015 , 07:38 AM
so sick
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01-25-2015 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by YappingYoda
Yes, because in the live world, you can't use a HUD, and you actually have to play poker, rather than letting your computer program tell you what button to click.
realpoker4lief

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01-25-2015 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by petjax
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
Isn't this a little like following a bout between George Foreman and Larry Holms? Both these guys are older than me. Can they really be playing at that high of a level poker? You can probably pick a random 22 yr old online HU grinder who would destroy either of them in a HU match.


Yea sure but i think you underestimate the difference of playing a game with 5 million in front of you or 25k it makes you think if you are raising somebody 250k, and if you mean a on-line game you are a even bigger ..... then you could loose it in 25 hands.
Because very few people can get it out of their mind and not think about that they are playing for/with 5 million.

But he i guess you do that every week right? hahahahaha dumb.ss
But for someone who has never has a real job, who a few years ago was doing a paper round for 20 dollars or whatever per week, 25K is equally unreal fantasy money, certainly to play poker with. It's individual though.
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01-25-2015 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
But for someone who has never has a real job, who a few years ago was doing a paper round for 20 dollars or whatever per week, 25K is equally unreal fantasy money, certainly to play poker with. It's individual though.
That's true, but i was just pissed about that guys dumb presumptions and opinion. LOL
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01-25-2015 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
The guy probably fancies himself a mathematical genius or whatever
He's somewhat better at math than everyone reading this thread. Unless, that is, NVG got close to solving Fermat's last theorem. If you don't agree Beal is a math genius, maybe you can solve the Beal Conjecture. He'll pay you one million dollars if you can.
Maybe he's not the greatest poker player, but he is without doubt a numbers wizard.
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01-25-2015 , 10:24 AM
Congrats to Todd on winning 50K. Well done sir.
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01-25-2015 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
He's somewhat better at math than everyone reading this thread. Unless, that is, NVG got close to solving Fermat's last theorem. If you don't agree Beal is a math genius, maybe you can solve the Beal Conjecture. He'll pay you one million dollars if you can.
Maybe he's not the greatest poker player, but he is without doubt a numbers wizard.
Holy smokes! Not only a math wizard, but backs it up with a cool milly. But......"he can't beat 10/20 online".....bwahhhh.
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01-25-2015 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by petjax
Originally Posted by Lestat View Post
Isn't this a little like following a bout between George Foreman and Larry Holms? Both these guys are older than me. Can they really be playing at that high of a level poker? You can probably pick a random 22 yr old online HU grinder who would destroy either of them in a HU match.


Yea sure but i think you underestimate the difference of playing a game with 5 million in front of you or 25k it makes you think if you are raising somebody 250k, and if you mean a on-line game you are a even bigger ..... then you could loose it in 25 hands.
Because very few people can get it out of their mind and not think about that they are playing for/with 5 million.

But he i guess you do that every week right? hahahahaha dumb.ss
It's all relative. First time I played $400/$800 I was pretty nervous about it and at one point couldn't stop thinking about how I had more money on the table than most people make in a year. I'm also pretty sure my $20k buy-in represented a lot more $$ to me, than $20M does to Mr. Beale or whatever percent Brunson has of himself.

While I can appreciate the magnitude of both men's success in their respective fields, I've been playing poker too long to be impressed by chip denomination. I'm guessing you'd be fascinated by a $500k/$1M huhu match between Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. I wouldn't. Sorry if that disappoints you dumb.ss
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01-25-2015 , 10:38 AM
To win 50bb in any poker game is more of a rungood affair then anything else so you need to chill with the 'skill' talk.
Lets see how this game continues before we give our silly opinions on anybody's skill level mkay?

Or, put your money where your mouth is and start making props.
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01-25-2015 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
Huh? Although according the book Beal was very good at avoiding giving off tells, his oftentimes insistence on playing higher stakes than the pros desired was seemingly a function of his realization that he needed to inject some "scared money" feeling into the pros. He wasn't trying to simply outcalculate them.
He did those things for edge as well, for sure. But I picked out the computer thing, because the solving of HU LHE was mentioned.
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01-25-2015 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
It's all relative. First time I played $400/$800 I was pretty nervous about it and at one point couldn't stop thinking about how I had more money on the table than most people make in a year. I'm also pretty sure my $20k buy-in represented a lot more $$ to me, than $20M does to Mr. Beale or whatever percent Brunson has of himself.

While I can appreciate the magnitude of both men's success in their respective fields, I've been playing poker too long to be impressed by chip denomination. I'm guessing you'd be fascinated by a $500k/$1M huhu match between Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. I wouldn't. Sorry if that disappoints you dumb.ss
Bottom line you were still nervous. No one cares if you were impressed, different arguments fish lol.
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01-25-2015 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
It's all relative. First time I played $400/$800 I was pretty nervous about it and at one point couldn't stop thinking about how I had more money on the table than most people make in a year. I'm also pretty sure my $20k buy-in represented a lot more $$ to me, than $20M does to Mr. Beale or whatever percent Brunson has of himself.

While I can appreciate the magnitude of both men's success in their respective fields, I've been playing poker too long to be impressed by chip denomination. I'm guessing you'd be fascinated by a $500k/$1M huhu match between Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. I wouldn't. Sorry if that disappoints you dumb.ss
Nobody is coming into this thread to hear your life story. Your humble brags just make you look and sound ******ed. Go run on a treadmill or something.
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01-25-2015 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by yaaam1484
And pokertube had this article just 3 weeks ago, http://www.pokertube.com/poker-news/...3-million-game

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Originally Posted by Kevmath
i'm confused,i always thought he played the corp only onces,so who
felt Beal back in the day Brunson or Ivey ?

or was there a rematch.
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01-25-2015 , 12:20 PM
Wow this thread got off the rails quickly.

Anyone know if any more session(s) are in the works or was this just a one time affair for old times or something?
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01-25-2015 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AwesomeDonk
Nobody is coming into this thread to hear your life story. Your humble brags just make you look and sound ******ed. Go run on a treadmill or something.
+1 lol
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01-25-2015 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by biggiepantz
He did those things for edge as well, for sure. But I picked out the computer thing, because the solving of HU LHE was mentioned.
Beal only plays super high stakes in order to not waste his time or others fish lol.
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01-25-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AwesomeDonk
Nobody is coming into this thread to hear your life story. Your humble brags just make you look and sound ******ed. Go run on a treadmill or something.
What humble brag? I said I wouldn't stand a chance any more against a random online huhu specialist and don't think neither of these guys would either. If you're into hearing about huge sums of money changing hands, well, I guess that's what the G is for in NVG. I prefer the N and the V. My only point was that it's laughable to think this is some impressively high level match between 45 and 62 yr old. Since they are both likely adequately rolled, it's not much different (from a technical play standpoint) than if the stakes were far less.
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01-25-2015 , 01:05 PM
Hopefully we get a rematch today. Also would be really cool if it could be going on next weekend when I'll be in Vegas.
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