We half agree. When black friday hit, B&M rooms were flooded with online players, and at least 90% couldn't play poker if their lives depended on it, and most were very young. As the months went by, most drifted away, and of those still playing, I'd say very few are overall winners.

Most of the winning players, at least here in the major SF Bay area rooms, were winners before the poker boom and are still beating the cash games. Yes, there's a small percentage of winners in their 20's and 30's, every generation has their unstoppable geniuses and autodidacts, but very few. Due to the widespread availability of books and other media that now accelerate learning, I'll even grant that there are more winners in their 20s/30s now than there were when the older players were learning on their own, but they're still way the minority IMO.

And no doubt winning online players are over-represented on 2+2 compared to B&M rooms, it's the largest online poker forum after all, and that may be skewing people's perception.

So, back to "any random 22 yr old online HUHE player could beat Beal or Brunson" I think that's ridiculously out of touch with reality. If they were so good, random 22 yr old online players would be crushing the easier live games, but they're not.

I think a "skill" that is being overlooked here isn't the ability to be the lucky pro that has wealthy enough friends to get a game, but rather the skill of being the person that the whale wants to play. Not some internet zombie, but a personality that he wants to play for whatever reason. I think chip Reese was known as the best person that could build a game that the fish want to play and enjoyed playing. A lot of the Internet guys I've played with manage to suck the enjoyment out of the game.

Andy thinks Todd is a donk. Andy beat Todd before 3 times. That's the reason he wants to play Todd. Of course Doyle nor Todd put up the money. Jack Binnion and 2 other high stakes players did. And of course Jennifer Harmons piece came from another player that gave her a free roll.

yeah, good thing Todd Brunson seems like the most interesting person in the world. I'll take a company of any nerdy/socially awkward online player over a company of any of the live pros, who are either boring or borderline ******ed. Of course there are exceptions (Chip Reese seemed to be one), but most live pros overall seem like horrible human beings to be around.

The only reason Brunson is famous and is playing in a game like this is because of who his father is.

Why would Binnion and the others back Todd? Do they really think he has an edge?

Jack did not really back Todd. He backed Doyle who would owe. Todd got 1%. Yes Doyle will screw his son over just like everyone else. They put up 20 million. Andy left because of their big mouths, tweets and etc.. Todd is stupid. Shut your ego bragging mouths Todd and Doyle. You two just can't help yourselves. Now Andy is pissed by your mockery of him. Idiots

My favorite person on 2p2 is back?!! With the juicy hoghstakes truth.. Whats the latest? I love PW

If true, that would explain the tweets...

Trivial:

1^6+1^7+1^8 = 3 = [(3)^(1/9)]^9

Disproved. Cool conjecture bro.

Hey!! there is the deep throat of vegas/hs pokerworld again.
He any word on tom dwan being on his way or jungleman, since you are the man to ask about them? right? LOL

Who is Brunson's father?

jfc you're the worst poster in NVG and that's really ****ing hard to do.

I thought he meant positive integers.

Hahahahahaha, please explain, i would love to read it, since i always tell the truth of how i think of things/subjects/situations and so on and i am well aware of what most?/some? people think about that and i can't really be bothered by it, it does not take away that i enjoy the explanations why, so please do.

But seeing somebody explain taking money from a mentally challenged person, like it was the most normal thing to do, while i! at least, think it is morally offensive to say the least, and calls the man a "corky" to describe him[wich i think is a very demeaning way], that pisses me off big time, and if the words i used to express that anger and what i think of that person that writes that, or whatever else bothers you offends you or whatever else, well aldo i used some strong language, that mans decisions, moral standards in this case, justified imo this language and feelings i had/have/wrote about that, i'm sorry but that is what i think.

And profiting and/or preying of the weaker/les fortunates of society makes me especially very pissed off, and most certainly if it just for money/profit.

"Because of the diverse conditions of humans, it happens that some acts are virtuous to some people, as appropriate and suitable to them, while the same acts are immoral for others, as inappropriate to them".

Amarillo Slim.

Amarillo was a known child molestor.. maybe he is the reason Todd has long hair

So basically AB bum hunted Todd, who he thought he could beat, and was one of the few live pros connected to the borrowing power to make it happen. Doyle gets on the phone, gets a hold of his old time gambling/hustling associates, and gets himself, his kid and a girl he used to **** a nice free roll. Staked player makes a little score and gets to brag about it. Welcome to the very classy world of Las Vegas high stakes poker, circa 1989.

I wonder if Doyle was sweating the game thinking about how easy this would have been in the 70's if this guy would have come out here. The dealers would have had nicknames like Fingers, The Butcher, and you would have been able to read the backs of the cards from the back row of the sports book.

Well said sqred.

I heard a rumor that Todd asked Beal if he could be paid the $5 million in cheeseburgers.

Doyle was trying to lure Andy to a private residence or a hotel suite. Andy scared of cheating. Andy security was allowed to check Bobbys room and the fact that Doug is gone was a bonus.

The way I figured it, he probably gets a decent disability check deposited into his account every month, lives in a nice facility with a lot of board games and plenty of Vanilla pudding with all the whipped cream he can eat, and jerks off like 4 times a day. I have plenty of nights when I am pretty sure I would happily trade lives with him.

Or McDonald's gift cards

Yeah, that's the curse of knowledge. Sklansky knows math so much he thinks its obvious for everyone that solutions must be from non zero natural numbers as most similar problems from number theory.

Thank god the thread is back on track, somewhat.
Please resist the urge to post about 22yr basement dwellers, nobody gives a shiitt and rest of you please don't feed the idiot trolls.
Facts over opinions please.
Carry on.