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01-25-2015 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Hopefully we get a rematch today. Also would be really cool if it could be going on next weekend when I'll be in Vegas.
You can't see anything.
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01-25-2015 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
What humble brag? I said I wouldn't stand a chance any more against a random online huhu specialist and don't think neither of these guys would either. If you're into hearing about huge sums of money changing hands, well, I guess that's what the G is for in NVG. I prefer the N and the V. My only point was that it's laughable to think this is some impressively high level match between 45 and 62 yr old. Since they are both likely adequately rolled, it's not much different (from a technical play standpoint) than if the stakes were far less.
Why so condescending? Jealous much?

Why are you hanging in the thread if the match doesn't interest you any more than a random match? Move along dude.
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01-25-2015 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by elgrindo
This isn't BBV fish lol.
I'm a lot more interested in hearing what Lestat has to say about this match than you, so if you could shut your piehole while the adults talk in here that'd be great.
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01-25-2015 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
All I have to do is buy a HUD and I can win at 2k/4k? So simple!
Yea, pretty much
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01-25-2015 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by archii
Why are you hanging in the thread if the match doesn't interest you any more than a random match? Move along dude.
I was genuinely interested in what the fascination was. I was also curious what the difference was between this match and two prize fighters going at it who weren't near the best any more.

I was not being condescending. The questions were sincere. People called me names for asking them.

I'm also open to being wrong. Maybe Beale is among the best and if so, I'd be much more interested in a HU match involving MH even if it had to be at much lower limits.
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01-25-2015 , 01:55 PM
There is no KOTH in live HS poker. Ability to get into good games and get funding are far more important than technical skill level.
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01-25-2015 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
I was genuinely interested in what the fascination was.
It's a 50k/100k game played for millions of dollars by known players...

Anything else needs explaining?
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01-25-2015 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bicyclekick
I'd also be curious if either of them read "Further limit holdem" (a 2+2 book by phil newall that has a lot of great and accessible stuff about hu lhe and the best bots interpretation of the game)
I'd happily send Andy a signed copy if he wanted one. Billionaires need to feed their kids too.
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01-25-2015 , 03:08 PM
This thread is hilarious on many levels.
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01-25-2015 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Hopefully we get a rematch today. Also would be really cool if it could be going on next weekend when I'll be in Vegas.
that_pope in the house. this thread has officially started.
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01-25-2015 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by elgrindo
lol you obviously haven't played high stakes Razz.
What does this even mean?

I was somewhat surprised to see this match happened. Todd is a solid boring mixed player overall. Thats not meant to be an insult. When I see him at my table I immediately want to take a nap. My experiences with him make me feel like his game is not tailored to shorthanded play, but that's probably closer to a pointless baseless assumption. I think he knows he needs to open up, but I don't know how adept he is when it comes to executing. He just slowly siphons money by being tight solid playing FR. Regardless the HU sounds like torture to participate in for anyone other than Todd.

Doyle is surprisingly crafty in Stud variants. It shouldn't be a surprise I guess, but I think internet players are conditioned to discredit the skill set of live pros, and his style is fun and engaging. I'd like to watch Doyle vs Beal.
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01-25-2015 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oscillator
What does this even mean?

I was somewhat surprised to see this match happened. Todd is a solid boring mixed player overall. Thats not meant to be an insult. When I see him at my table I immediately want to take a nap. My experiences with him make me feel like his game is not tailored to shorthanded play, but that's probably closer to a pointless baseless assumption. I think he knows he needs to open up, but I don't know how adept he is when it comes to executing. He just slowly siphons money by being tight solid playing FR. Regardless the HU sounds like torture to participate in for anyone other than Todd.

Doyle is surprisingly crafty in Stud variants. It shouldn't be a surprise I guess, but I think internet players are conditioned to discredit the skill set of live pros, and his style is fun and engaging. I'd like to watch Doyle vs Beal.
lol you obviously haven't played high stakes Razz either lmao.
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01-25-2015 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by elgrindo
lol you obviously haven't played high stakes Razz.
Loooool
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01-25-2015 , 04:26 PM
I assume you're trolling Elgrindo, but I'll bite. He's probably played the highest stakes razz on the planet. (Oscillator)

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01-25-2015 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elgrindo
lol you obviously haven't played high stakes Razz either lmao.
A+++++
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01-25-2015 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
Beal lost $100k playing 5/10 at Wynn the night before. Apparently that is not impossible.
I know he is smart and all, but really, you almost have to try to play bad to drop 100k in one night in that game. Sure, guys are going to say that the stakes are so low for him he doesn't really try, blah blah blah. Come on, does anyone here think that they could lose 20k at 1/2 in one night. I don't think it is even in the realm of possibility.
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01-25-2015 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
I know he is smart and all, but really, you almost have to try to play bad to drop 100k in one night in that game. Sure, guys are going to say that the stakes are so low for him he doesn't really try, blah blah blah. Come on, does anyone here think that they could lose 20k at 1/2 in one night. I don't think it is even in the realm of possibility.
I could do it.
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01-25-2015 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
He's somewhat better at math than everyone reading this thread. Unless, that is, NVG got close to solving Fermat's last theorem. If you don't agree Beal is a math genius, maybe you can solve the Beal Conjecture. He'll pay you one million dollars if you can.
Maybe he's not the greatest poker player, but he is without doubt a numbers wizard.
I am not sure of his mathematical skills or attainment. But you can't go by the fact that he proposed a number theory conjecture that can't easily be solved. As I have written about before, there are many problems that have a probabilistic aspect to them that are in this category. For instance just off the top of my head I'll conjecture that a sixth power plus a seventh power plus an eighth power can never equal a ninth power. Try proving or disproving that.
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01-25-2015 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
He's somewhat better at math than everyone reading this thread. Unless, that is, NVG got close to solving Fermat's last theorem. If you don't agree Beal is a math genius, maybe you can solve the Beal Conjecture. He'll pay you one million dollars if you can.
Maybe he's not the greatest poker player, but he is without doubt a numbers wizard.
i could solve fermat's last theorem for you if you want

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01-25-2015 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
I know he is smart and all, but really, you almost have to try to play bad to drop 100k in one night in that game. Sure, guys are going to say that the stakes are so low for him he doesn't really try, blah blah blah. Come on, does anyone here think that they could lose 20k at 1/2 in one night. I don't think it is even in the realm of possibility.
sounds like a good prop bet to me.
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01-25-2015 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BmRo
I assume you're trolling Elgrindo, but I'll bite. He's probably played the highest stakes razz on the planet. (Oscillator)
Nah, Harley maybe, but thanks. I like hearing peoples bits of information that may pertain to a story so I figured Id drop in, pointless or not.

Elgrindo for the cull!
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01-25-2015 , 05:15 PM
True story, in fact I think I posted about a ruling from the game in some forum but I digress. At Grand Victoria Casino in Illinois I watched a mentally challenged gentleman come into our 1/2 game after hitting a 3k jackpot on a slot machine. He had the winner's t-shirt they casino gave him and the whole deal. When I say "mentally challenged", I am not joking around. Think Corky on that old tv show on ABC, maybe two ticks smarter. This guy lived in a group home, for real. Well, he called any bet made. at any time, including the river once with the nut low, and it wasn't a wheel. He played for 4 hours in a 200 cap game and lost around 1900 bucks, before security pulled him out of the game. So Beal plays NL, depending on how many hours he put in, about as well as a guy from a group home.
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01-25-2015 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
I know he is smart and all, but really, you almost have to try to play bad to drop 100k in one night in that game. Sure, guys are going to say that the stakes are so low for him he doesn't really try, blah blah blah. Come on, does anyone here think that they could lose 20k at 1/2 in one night. I don't think it is even in the realm of possibility.
lol wynn 5/10 is uncapped buddy, pretty sure anyone can lose 20k at a 1/2 uncapped if you try hard enough :P
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01-25-2015 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SqredII
True story, in fact I think I posted about a ruling from the game in some forum but I digress. At Grand Victoria Casino in Illinois I watched a mentally challenged gentleman come into our 1/2 game after hitting a 3k jackpot on a slot machine. He had the winner's t-shirt they casino gave him and the whole deal. When I say "mentally challenged", I am not joking around. Think Corky on that old tv show on ABC, maybe two ticks smarter. This guy lived in a group home, for real. Well, he called any bet made. at any time, including the river once with the nut low, and it wasn't a wheel. He played for 4 hours in a 200 cap game and lost around 1900 bucks, before security pulled him out of the game. So Beal plays NL, depending on how many hours he put in, about as well as a guy from a group home.
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01-25-2015 , 05:22 PM
There is certainly an eclectic mix of voices in the thread, everything from HS online crushers to live pros to theoretical geniuses/authors to busto tards like myself. This is what makes Ammerica so great.

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