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07-11-2015 , 02:38 PM

#451

ThatsAGoodCard

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Sorry if this is seen as trolling, but afaik, only players from the UK and Germany do not get winnings taxed from either the U.S. or their home countries, while others are taxed on various %(Mostly 30% from what I gather) based on where they are from. Question is why there are still so many people playing in the World Series considering the amount raked by taxes+expenses which would probably make them -ev for the series(not sure about math)

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07-11-2015 , 02:52 PM

#452

Cashcid Linc

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Originally Posted by Snuffers

The types of arguments about people who play poker never ceases to amaze me on a POKER FORUM!

Really, so recs who decide to play and don't have an income in the mid 6 figures or more are scumbags because they should be doing other things with their money?

Arguments with these types of thoughts are futile at best, as no minds are going to change, and both sides are going to assume the worst of the other.

I personally just have a problem with those who judge others without knowing them. Everyone is allowed their opinion, but sometimes you're opinion is stupid, and the fact you chose to vocalize it relieves all doubt of your level of intelligence.

yup

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07-11-2015 , 02:54 PM

#453

restorativejustice

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Originally Posted by ThatsAGoodCard

For Canadians, unless gambling is your "profession" gambling winnings are viewed as "windfall profits" and are not taxed. While the US may withhold 30% of any lump sum won, that amount can be relatively easily returned to you with a simple filing that you can do on your own for a few hundred bucks or can be done for you by others for a percentage fee.

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07-11-2015 , 03:00 PM

#454

bbfg

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Ridiculous claims itt. It's not because you have kids or a family to support that you're suddenly no longer allowed to spend money on fun stuff anymore.

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07-11-2015 , 03:06 PM

#455

JoeDiego

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2014 Chip Leaders by Day:

Day 1: Eric Tracy (Martin Jacobson 2nd)
Day 2: Phil Ivey
Day 3: Andrew Liporace
Day 4: Matt Haugen
Day 5: Mark Newhouse
Day 6: Martin Jacobson
Day 7 (Final Table) Jorryt Van Hoof
Day 8 (Final Three) Jorryt Van Hoof
Day 9 (Winner): Martin Jacobson

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07-11-2015 , 03:08 PM

#456

ThatsAGoodCard

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

When u say withhold, is that for US players only or for players as well from other countries?

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07-11-2015 , 03:11 PM

#457

JoeDiego

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2013 Chip Leaders by Day:

Day 1: Mark Kroon
Day 2: Mark Kroon
Day 3: Maxx Coleman
Day 4: Jon Lane
Day 5: Sami Rustom
Day 6: Anton Morgenstern
Day 7 (Final Table): JC Tran
Day 8 (Heads-Up) Jay Farber
Day 9 (Winner): Ryan Riess

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07-11-2015 , 03:12 PM

#458

highstakesfan

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Cards are in the air !

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07-11-2015 , 03:26 PM

#459

TheBirdman

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Originally Posted by restorativejustice

You can't win the Main Event if you first don't make it past the money bubble.

A simple concept that so many people on here have difficulty grasping and may explain why they are so envious and embittered toward PH and DN and others that have.

[ ] understands MTT strategy

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07-11-2015 , 03:26 PM

#460

jjnid

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dnegs must have won big hand..

up to 570k after starting at 444k

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07-11-2015 , 03:26 PM

#461

.isolated

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gogogo Mr. Hastings. Fedor Holz for runner-up!

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07-11-2015 , 03:28 PM

#462

JoeDiego

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2012 Chip Leaders by Day:

Day 1: William John
Day 2: Gaelle Baumann
Day 3: Dave D'Alesandro
Day 4: Paul Volpe
Day 5: Kyle Keranen
Day 6: Marc-Andre Ladouceur
Day 7 (Final Table): Jesse Sylvia
Day 8 (Final Three): Greg Merson
Day 9 (Winner): Greg Merson

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07-11-2015 , 03:29 PM

#463

AJD804

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Originally Posted by jjnid

dnegs must have won big hand..

up to 570k after starting at 444k

He did. There was a short write up about it on the WSOP page

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07-11-2015 , 03:38 PM

#464

AshleyC

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Originally Posted by jjnid

this thread making so many assumptions regarding AA fold guy's life

Well the very fact that he folded AA pf makes it abundantly clear that he's playing over his head / irresponsibly and is dead money.

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07-11-2015 , 03:42 PM

#465

madlex

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Originally Posted by AshleyC

These 'everyman' guys who ESPN seem to love are just degenerates. Anyone who has a family and is a non pro who spends let's say > 20% of their annual salary on playing the main isn't a 'man with a dream'. They're an irresponsible scumbag making a truly selfish decision.

Playing main event instead of family vacation / kids college fees / doing up your house etc is disgusting.

Saying that is way too harsh imo, but there's some truth to it.

I wonder how many players would decide against playing in the ME if they knew how -EV they are in real dollars. I assume there's a decent number of people who wouldn't play if they knew that they lose something like $3000 on average by playing.

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07-11-2015 , 03:44 PM

#466

.isolated

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You people arguing that he's gambling above his roll are the reason why online poker isn't regulated yet. Let people do what the **** they want with their money and **** off.

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07-11-2015 , 03:49 PM

#467

SootedPowa

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Let people do what the **** they want with their money and **** off.

Exactly

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07-11-2015 , 03:51 PM

#468

SuperSwag

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Why fold the AA? shove pre and at least pick up blinds. Play to win, not to min cash. Getting AA around bubble is pretty good spot.

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07-11-2015 , 04:00 PM

#469

madlex

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Let people do what the **** they want with their money and **** off.

In a civilized world, people help their fellow human beings in making educated decisions.

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07-11-2015 , 04:01 PM

#470

.isolated

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Thank you for proving my point.

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07-11-2015 , 04:06 PM

#471

madlondoner

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Maybe he had money but his wife said he could play if he saved up x amount a year. It's not that be can't financially play again; it's that his wife won't let him!

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07-11-2015 , 04:09 PM

#472

SuperSwag

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So he should spend it on 5 ****ty cruises instead of playing the main? the guy saved up for 5 years let him do what he wants.

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07-11-2015 , 04:18 PM

#473

madlondoner

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Anyway he cashed. He will probably play next year lol

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07-11-2015 , 04:20 PM

#474

jjnid

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5 Pennsylvania players in top 27

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07-11-2015 , 04:23 PM

#475

restorativejustice

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Originally Posted by SuperSwag

Why fold the AA? shove pre and at least pick up blinds. Play to win, not to min cash. Getting AA around bubble is pretty good spot.

I did this a few months ago at a WPT where I raised and then was put allin a few spots from the bubble by a woman with a near identical stack (tiny bit less) who held 109. She won and crippled me. I asked why she did it so near the bubble and she said, "I thought you were makin' a move and no ones pushin' me around buddy."

I now begrudge no one who wants to get into the money first and folds AA to do it because you can't win a tourney unless you first get to the money and you never know what northern European is going to call you with garbage and get lucky.

Next time I will play like PH, fold everything near the bubble, make the cash, and then win it ... son.