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2011 WSOP Main Event Final Table thread Nov. 6 and 8 (tl;dr, Spoilers will get you banned!) 2011 WSOP Main Event Final Table thread Nov. 6 and 8 (tl;dr, Spoilers will get you banned!)

11-07-2011 , 02:05 PM
Best hand of the day. Pius QQ.

It will always be remembered.
11-07-2011 , 02:10 PM
What's the over/under on how many hands Tuesday will last?
11-07-2011 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottyy
What's the over/under on how many hands Tuesday will last?
75
11-07-2011 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stan4stl
75
70
11-07-2011 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1outter
70
64
11-07-2011 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by the1macdaddy
64
62
11-07-2011 , 02:23 PM
I think we've seen aces once or twice,and kings and queens mayyybe 3 times yesterday ? where the premiums at
11-07-2011 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluffzorz
Haters gonna hate, Lamb doing his thing.

I think Stasko comes out of left field and ships it. He may look like some donk but I really think he's some sort of genius. Only really made that one bad play.

Heinz is gonna end up shipping it and losing it then go on tilt.
Yea I think I read from somewhere he is very close to being a grandmaster at chess. It's kind of a big deal in chess circles.
11-07-2011 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MauvaisOeil
I think we've seen aces once or twice,and kings and queens mayyybe 3 times yesterday ? where the premiums at
They didn't play that many hands
11-07-2011 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by YALLIGNENT
Ben lamb got lucky in 3 hands in over 9 days of consistent good play. I think people are forgetting that he was consistently on the leader board for virtually the entire tournament. He deserved the luck if anything. Statsko did not play ba at all and he should get a little more credit. Heinz got just as lucky as Ben and noone seems to be giving him flack. This is because he played an amazing game as well. They all deserve to be there and althoughgianetti and odea got unlucky this final table is definitely one of the best out of the last few years
Yeah... Lamb also had KK vs. Darcour's AA earlier in the tournament when they were the two biggest stacks in the table and he absolutely lost the minimum.
11-07-2011 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Archi
Yea I think I read from somewhere he is very close to being a grandmaster at chess. It's kind of a big deal in chess circles.
I think they said he was just below being a Master actually. Still pretty good, but nowhere close to Grandmaster.
11-07-2011 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TimTimSalabim
I think they said he was just below being a Master actually. Still pretty good, but nowhere close to Grandmaster.
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=308480
11-07-2011 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TimTimSalabim
I think they said he was just below being a Master actually. Still pretty good, but nowhere close to Grandmaster.
OK. Might be. Yeah I know he is not a grandmaster. But "just below" grandmaster status is quite close to grandmaster, no? Dont remember where I read about his chess past, but anyhow he must be well above average intelligence. And he seems descent dude, I hope he ships it. Or Heinz. As long as it's not "Bemba"
11-07-2011 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by KJoff
All you Lamb-nuthuggers make me sick...

If it was Bounhara pushing with trash and sucking out constantly you would be all over the place about what a fn fish and luckbox he is, yet everything Benba does has to be genius bc he is such a baller, if anyone critizises his play or his annoying personality that person has to be jealous bc we all want to be spoiled, overweight, arrogant pros like him right?

Fact is: Lamb is a great player, no doubt, but he was really lucky to reach the final 3.

He was getting outplayed in a lot of spots by Gianetti and Heinz and wasn't able to intimidate them or run them over at any point. Heinz was the clear table-captain for the entire time, a position that should belong to Lamb when he has some chips and position on Heinz, but at no point was Lamb able to establish his dominance like he normally uses to. At times Lamb seemed to be frustrated, exhausted, and not happy with himself at all.

After all I was not that impressed by Ben Lambs performance, I expected that there would be a significant skill-difference between him and the rest of the table once he gets hold of some chips, but Heinz, Gianetti and O'Dea appeared to be on at least the same skill-level that day.
I'm not a huge fan of Ben Lamb, I find him kinda smug - but I think you are pretty far from the truth. Sure, he got outplayed in some spots by Heinz and Gianetti, but he also out-played them more than a few times with excellent reads. I hope he is heads up with Heinz.
11-07-2011 , 03:19 PM
@BenbaLamb Ben Lamb
Was just joking about Matt having an overcard to my kings. Pious had made a similar joke earlier and I didn't mean anything by it.
11-07-2011 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Archi
OK. Might be. Yeah I know he is not a grandmaster. But "just below" grandmaster status is quite close to grandmaster, no? Dont remember where I read about his chess past, but anyhow he must be well above average intelligence. And he seems descent dude, I hope he ships it. Or Heinz. As long as it's not "Bemba"
No, he's nowhere near being a Grandmaster. He's below a candidate master, and there's still fide master, and international master after that before you can reach grandmaster status. It's still good, but it's not amazing.
11-07-2011 , 03:30 PM
Looking back on the coverage its pretty funny how far out of his way chad goes to paint staszko as the everyman. I understand that sort of thing is very important for the game but the dude is like an autistic eastern european chess savant, he and darvin moon/dennis phillips couldnt have less in common
11-07-2011 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nhan
No, he's nowhere near being a Grandmaster. He's below a candidate master, and there's still fide master, and international master after that before you can reach grandmaster status. It's still good, but it's not amazing.
exactly, people dont understand the implications of grand master. Because of the lack of variance and the fixed nature of the game there really is no comparison in poker.
11-07-2011 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Archi
OK. Might be. Yeah I know he is not a grandmaster. But "just below" grandmaster status is quite close to grandmaster, no? Dont remember where I read about his chess past, but anyhow he must be well above average intelligence. And he seems descent dude, I hope he ships it. Or Heinz. As long as it's not "Bemba"
Not trying to be a nit- but he's not "just below" GRANDMASTER, but MASTER-and in layman's terms the ranking system is based on mathematical formulas given a numerical value from playing other people in relation to their rank (you get a better score for beating someone better than you, etc.) To go the next level is not just a matter of playing well but having to consistently beat better players. So a rating system will go expert, master, senior master, grand master/world champion - also dependent on which ranking system used. Just FYI, but yeah - still crazy smart to be ranked expert. Hope he wins it too.
11-07-2011 , 04:01 PM
Really think the final 3 should of been Heinze giannetti and O'dea.....Although im not really a fan of Giannetti he did play well defending his blinds so often maybe -ev in the long run obv it actaully wasnt a bad strategy....after a while they were less inclined to 3 bet his bb......Stazko did seem to be card dead and kinda out of his depth for a while but he opened up his game......Ben lamb is a superb player obviously lioke him or loathe him but his reads seemed to be slightly off...Really disapointed O'DEA busted that AQ hand he ran into the very top of heinze range think that play would of worked so often, heinze flatting was questionable,what does he do if the board comes j47 rainbow same betting....After that i think he played his short stack brillantly.....Maybe im biased cause i had 4k on him
11-07-2011 , 04:03 PM
all the arm chairing is lulz in here. great coverage as usual... and helmuth once again proves why he is so great.

looking forward to the conclusion.
11-07-2011 , 04:09 PM
Luck is when preparation and opportunity meet. Yeah he got lucky, but he put himself in a position to get lucky. So go Ben Lamb!
11-07-2011 , 04:30 PM
Yeah the coverage was great (although why they didn't bring Busquet back is beyond me). Espn stream was flawless while I watched live, likewise when I caught up on demand.

Can't wait for tomorrow, hope Heinz ships it now.
11-07-2011 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by villagio
Yeah the coverage was great (although why they didn't bring Busquet back is beyond me). Espn stream was flawless while I watched live, likewise when I caught up on demand.

Can't wait for tomorrow, hope Heinz ships it now.
Yeah the coverage is A+ and GL to all 3 of them!
11-07-2011 , 04:46 PM
I really enjoyed watching the espn coverage (watched all of it on 15 minute delay). it was great at the beginning antonio and phil calling the cards at the beginning for the most part pretty accurately but as it got down towards the end they got less accurate. i think that just shows what high level of thinking was going on when it got down to the final 4. the final 3 really were the best at switching up their games and thinking on who knows how many different levels...well i guess thats pretty obvious but it was fun to watch!!!!

      
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