2+2 Statement: Ninth Circuit Upholds Two Plus Two’s Cybersquatting Judgment Against Dutch Boyd - Page 12 - Poker News

I don't really have much of a horse in this race but having read the book, he gets very specific about individual people at Golden Palace and how they ****ed him and the rest of the Pokerspot team over. Like "if-it-weren't-true-there-could-be-a-lawsuit" specific, which, if anything, gives his version more credibility in my mind.

Because he's proven such an excellent judge of what is likely to draw a successful lawsuit against him in the recent past?

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06-19-2014 , 11:59 AM

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Phil9

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Doubtful Dutch had all of himself. Even if he did, he probably has plenty of makeup to pay off and that doesn't include taxes on the winnings.

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06-19-2014 , 12:13 PM

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Punker

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Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz

After reading his version of what happened (as above), I'm a bit more sympathetic to what he was trying to do at the end of the Pokerspot thing.

Seems like he was trying to do what was best for everyone and got burned because of his lack of business experience. I'm less inclined to believe there was malice, as in the FTP case for example.

This is partially true, but when the processor issues started (and he knew it) he explicitly told his customer service staff to lie to players about cheques being sent to avoid a run on the bank and encourage players to keep depositing into a bankrupt company, as well as raiding player funds to keep the company going.

I don't doubt that he was naive going in, and got taken by some big companies, but after that, he repeatedly chose dishonest and probably criminal ways of trying to cover the problem. He wasn't the only problem with pokerspot, but he was sure a huge part of it, and there was absolutely malice involved.

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06-19-2014 , 06:46 PM

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Mason Malmuth

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Originally Posted by gutito21

Blown away by what Gavin Smith had to say about the Boyd v Mason situation. Heard Gavin go off on Mason on the Mark Hoke Show. Is it true Dutch offered to give the web name back and was sued anyway?

Gavin Smith, and you by extension, need to read Post #127 in this thread.

MM

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06-19-2014 , 07:29 PM

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pokeraz

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I'm curious if the writ was successful? Did the casino withhold a portion of the winnings?

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06-19-2014 , 07:36 PM

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MicroRoller

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Originally Posted by gutito21

Blown away by what Gavin Smith had to say about the Boyd v Mason situation. Heard Gavin go off on Mason on the Mark Hoke Show. Is it true Dutch offered to give the web name back and was sued anyway?

What exactly did he say? Link?

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06-20-2014 , 06:00 AM

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bundy5

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Originally Posted by MicroRoller

What exactly did he say? Link?

He has said this on twitter too:

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Think that prick @MasonMalmuth is rooting for @DutchBoyd today? That lawsuit was completely unnecessary

http://www.pokernews.com/twitter/olegsmith/

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@propoker @masonmalmuth @dutchboyd I know what I need to, he never used the domain name and offered it back for free = bully lawsuit

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-twit...n-smith?page=3

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06-20-2014 , 10:10 AM

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pghduilaw

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Originally Posted by Excalibur1701

Although I think this was a money grab from Two Plus Two, I think this is the real problem.

"$25,000 in statutory damages and $33,985 in attorney fees. " Once again the slime ball lawyers being the real winners.

As an Attorney I can only say. . .

Spoiler:

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06-26-2014 , 07:42 PM

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PoppaLarge

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Originally Posted by pghduilaw

As an Attorney I can only say. . .

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Lol

sent from my smarty-phone

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06-26-2014 , 08:46 PM

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LancyHoward

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Guy walks into a crowded bar and yells out "ALL ATTORNEY'S ARE ASS HOLES." Nobody said a thing. Then he yells out again, "ALL ATTORNEY'S ARE ASS HOLES." Total silence. Suddenly from the back of the bar someone says, I resent that remark. Guy says, why, are you an attorney? No comes the response, I'M AN ASS HOLE!

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07-02-2014 , 01:14 PM

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STinLA

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Originally Posted by Excalibur1701

Occasionally (or maybe not so infrequently, now that I think about it) clients make a conscious decision to pursue someone on principle or for personal reasons. It is difficult to quantify, but there is some deterrent value when you demonstrate that you are willing to go thermonuclear even though you know you will recover less in damages than you pay out in attorney fees.

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02-03-2015 , 04:37 AM

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Mason Malmuth

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Originally Posted by bylaw

Follow up Reddit post:

"I am Anthony Scocozzo. Proof: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/17851743/dme.PNG

Firstly, I do not condone and never have condoned going after and harassing Nick for what has happened. I wrote that Reddit post because it has been nigh on impossible to defend myself in this suit. I just wanted people to know that I am not guilty. Harassing Nick does not accomplish anything. It does not help me and does not remove this from my records. I would appreciate it if this vigilante justice nonsense stopped immediately.

Secondly, Nick is cooperative in getting this all straightened out. We will be meeting with an attorney and discussing the events in detail.

Thirdly, I believe Twoplustwo is just as wrong, if not more than Nick. Tyler Andrews was well aware that Nick made the website. Nick and I called Tyler together, months before the judgement, and explained everything. We called in hopes of getting my name removed and having the case against me settled outside of court. I have further evidence to prove Tyler Andrews and Mason Malmuth are in the wrong, which will be discussed with my lawyer.

Further details will not be discussed and I will not be taking questions."
http://www.reddit.com/r/poker/commen...hony_scocozzo/

Hi Everyone:

This case has now been settled with Albino making a payment to Two Plus Two and final dismissal of the suit and the judgment should be done in the near future.

Best wishes,
Mason

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02-03-2015 , 10:16 AM

#288

SrslySirius

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Does that mean Scocozzo is off the hook? Did he ever have to pay anything?

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02-03-2015 , 04:00 PM

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Mason Malmuth

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius

Does that mean Scocozzo is off the hook?

Yes.

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Did he ever have to pay anything?

No.

MM

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02-03-2015 , 05:14 PM

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JudgeHoldem

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Originally Posted by loggy

Listen up. The registration was an attempt to capitalize on someone else's trademark. When people see TwoPlusTwoPoker.com there is only one thing they are thinking of. Dutch Boyd knew this. This is not an ambiguous case. When he registered the name, he was hoping it would get a ton of traffic. The fact that it did not, is not relevant. Also, the fact that the site was just a parked page is not relevant.

Now, if you had a name like PokerStarsForever.com, you can start thinking about making a good faith registration defense, even if you registered it hoping to capitalize on Poker Stars' business (you would probably lose there, but you would stand a chance, if you wanted to lie about why you registered it). A poker star is a term that is generic, and reasonable people could disagree as to whether PokerStarsForever.com infringes. Compare that with a poker name that would include Full Tilt, and you will see that most everyone would agree that the Full Tilt name would be an infringement almost all of the time, even if you tried to argue that poker players go on tilt...blah blah blah. There are lots of gray areas, but the name TwoPlusTwoPoker.com is a clear cut infringement, because without the site and business that is Two Plus Two, you really wouldn't ever dream up the name TwoPlusTwoPoker.com (don't try to argue that).

There is a guy who owns a computer company, and his last name is Nissan.com. He was sued by Nissan.com and he retained the name. Check out Nissan.com now. If his name was not Nissan, he likely would have lost, even if the site was unrelated to cars. When people think of Nissan, they think of one thing only. Just like Google. There are plenty of interesting cases out there that have been decided, but usually, if you follow common sense, and put yourself into the mind of the person registering the name, you can see what the intent was. Sometimes people can lie and say that the intent was something else, but you cannot do that with a straight face in regards to the name TwoPlusTwoPoker.com, especially coming from a known poker name like Dutch Boyd.

That Nissan thing is awesome.

JH

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