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06-14-2014 , 09:08 PM
JimmyFrickePoker.com would get absolutely zero traffic when it's just a redirect to FTP.com. It would never show up in any search engine listing EVER. It would never help FTP.com get ranked because JimmyFrickePoker.com is a worthless (to the internet) domain.

For it to get any traffic at all it would have to be built out with content and then have links from reputable sites pointed towards it. Then it might start ranking for some Jimmy Fricke terms - which is a huge waste of effort and money given the potential benefit for ranking for "Jimmy Fricke". Whoever came up with that idea for FTP was pretty much a ****** that read something online 5 years ago, mis-understood it, and wasted a few thousand on domains and time spent.
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06-14-2014 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
JimmyFrickePoker.com would get absolutely zero traffic when it's just a redirect to FTP.com. It would never show up in any search engine listing EVER. It would never help FTP.com get ranked because JimmyFrickePoker.com is a worthless (to the internet) domain.

For it to get any traffic at all it would have to be built out with content and then have links from reputable sites pointed towards it. Then it might start ranking for some Jimmy Fricke terms - which is a huge waste of effort and money given the potential benefit for ranking for "Jimmy Fricke". Whoever came up with that idea for FTP was pretty much a ****** that read something online 5 years ago, mis-understood it, and wasted a few thousand on domains and time spent.
So it's ok if they don't make money off it?
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06-14-2014 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
JimmyFrickePoker.com would get absolutely zero traffic when it's just a redirect to FTP.com. It would never show up in any search engine listing EVER. It would never help FTP.com get ranked because JimmyFrickePoker.com is a worthless (to the internet) domain.

For it to get any traffic at all it would have to be built out with content and then have links from reputable sites pointed towards it. Then it might start ranking for some Jimmy Fricke terms - which is a huge waste of effort and money given the potential benefit for ranking for "Jimmy Fricke". Whoever came up with that idea for FTP was pretty much a ****** that read something online 5 years ago, mis-understood it, and wasted a few thousand on domains and time spent.
Probably Howard's idea.

Last edited by Doc T River; 06-14-2014 at 09:41 PM. Reason: Lederer not Beale
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06-14-2014 , 09:50 PM
Surprised no one has registered freakandweirddude.com

Last edited by Videopro; 06-14-2014 at 10:08 PM.
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06-14-2014 , 10:04 PM
you misspelled it :-P

Last edited by Videopro; 06-14-2014 at 10:10 PM. Reason: fixed it :)
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06-14-2014 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DNegs
Something that may be of value to you in your life is understanding the distinction between "have to" and "choose to." You didn't "have to" do anything, you CHOSE to.

Just like you don't "have to" get a psychiatric evaluation, that would be a chose. One I would suggest so that you get the medication you need, but again, it's a CHOICE not a "have to."

You don't "have to" take meds, but choosing to not take them has consequences associated with that.
The point that he is making here is one that is extremely unpopular in the USA in this day and age, but is completely valid. You never, "have" to do anything. It may be within your interest to do something, but everything you do represent a choice you make. You always bear full responsibility for your actions, regardless of whether you were paid, threatening, ordered, coerced, fooled, cajoled, or otherwise influenced. It doesn't matter if you were, "just doing your job" or any other reason - you are responsible for your actions
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06-14-2014 , 10:19 PM
Except that you lose the point in the hate and vitriol that consumes Daniel. Choice Center!
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06-14-2014 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Frenbar
The point that he is making here is one that is extremely unpopular in the USA in this day and age, but is completely valid. You never, "have" to do anything. It may be within your interest to do something, but everything you do represent a choice you make. You always bear full responsibility for your actions, regardless of whether you were paid, threatening, ordered, coerced, fooled, cajoled, or otherwise influenced. It doesn't matter if you were, "just doing your job" or any other reason - you are responsible for your actions
Yes, there is a choice, but legally and morally it's different when coercion is involved. If someone with a gun threatens to throw me in a concrete room where I'll be repeatedly raped if I don't give him money we are in a different area than if some crippled bum on the street asked me for money.
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06-15-2014 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
So it's ok if they don't make money off it?
Laws are laws. Reactions are overblown is all.
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06-15-2014 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by werner ersoft
Maybe, Dutch Boyd should just surrender the publishing rights of his book to Two Plus Two. It is top 15 on Amazon Kindle...

It is beating Ship It Holla Ballas which was number one at some point.



Mason probably doesn't want Dutch's book in the Two Plus Two library, though.

By looking at the cover, it looks like it could possibly be a WSOP sponsored book. The fonts and the letters look the same as the WSOP logo but maybe it is just my eyes that is making it so.
To get a more accurate reading on how a book is selling, you should look at the sales rank that Amazon assigns it, and this includes both the printed version(s) as well as the kindle. However, sales ranks can fluctuate a lot, especially if it is a poor selling book where a copy recently sold can kick up a sales rank significantly for a short period of time. So you should look at these numbers several times over a period of days. Also, keep in mind that books usually sell best when they are new and the "legs" a new book will have can be difficult to predict.

Also, Amazon pays a higher royalty rate on kindles if the publisher agrees to a very low price (for the kindle). In my opinion, this has the affect of increasing sales at only a small gain in total royalties for the author/publisher if the book is not a good seller. But if the book is a good seller, it's our experience that the overall royalties for the kindle are higher if the price (for the kindle) is kept more in line with the price for the paperback version. Notice that in your example, four of the kindles listed are being sold for very low prices compared to their paperback versions.

And one other thought, we at Two Plus Two have already turned down several autobiographies. It is not the type of book that interests us or the type of book that we think will sell well.

Mason
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06-15-2014 , 08:35 AM
Awesome job. This guy is a huge scum bag.
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06-15-2014 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by werner ersoft
Could a much lower Kindle price kill the sales of the brick and mortar version? For example, you or Amazon decide to sell Harrington on Holdem I for 8 bucks on Kindle. Would the potential buyer just say, "To hell with it with the paperback. I'll just get the ebook instead and not buy the paperback even though I originally planned to." Does this happen?
It would probably depend on the price difference between the versions and on the person to a lesser extent.

I have a Nook and I can get many strategy books cheaper as ebooks, but I prefer them as paperbacks and so have very few on my Nook. The few I do have I have because the price difference was significant when I bought them.

I do have a number of non-strategy poker books on my Nook, but that could be because I don't order much through my computer and brick&mortar poker book selection sucks right now.
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06-15-2014 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by werner ersoft
Maybe, Dutch Boyd should just surrender the publishing rights of his book to Two Plus Two. It is top 15 on Amazon Kindle...

It is beating Ship It Holla Ballas which was number one at some point.


The most remarkable thing in this whole thread for me is the fact that people may actually be buying those Puggy Neutron books.
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06-15-2014 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
The most remarkable thing in this whole thread for me is the fact that people may actually be buying those Puggy Neutron books.
I may be a book whore, but I am proud to say none of those are in my library.
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06-15-2014 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dantes
Mason just won $50 from Dutch that he could have used to buy some food, but he can't now.
+1
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06-17-2014 , 05:09 PM
Boyd coming into the final table of event 33 2/9. 1st place pays $288k and change. (Might want to get in line at the cage)
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06-17-2014 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1p0kerboy
Boyd coming into the final table of event 33 2/9. 1st place pays $288k and change. (Might want to get in line at the cage)
That kickstarter cash went towards his buy-in, and likely a consultation with Bosley hair care.
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06-17-2014 , 07:33 PM
mason at home watching the live stream like



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06-17-2014 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc T River
I may be a book whore, but I am proud to say none of those are in my library.
I was really surprised but I quite enjoyed the Ship It Holla Ballas book. It successfully induces major nostalgia for the golden days of the poker boom (and the golden days of NVG).

How far away it all seems now.
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06-17-2014 , 07:42 PM
he just looks like a scumbag. fist pumping when he wins a pot....lol
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06-17-2014 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jameson18
he just looks like a scumbag. fist pumping when he wins a pot....lol
Oh come on. He's allowed to be happy about winning.
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06-17-2014 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jameson18
he just looks like a scumbag. fist pumping when he wins a pot....lol
There has been a running joke since the Mike Matusow incident where players are over celebrating and fist pumping after the smallest of pots, t brunson and others at the table were doing it a couple days ago in an attempt to protest. Looks to be the same to me. Sarcastic fist pump.
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06-17-2014 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_seboks_luck
I was really surprised but I quite enjoyed the Ship It Holla Ballas book. It successfully induces major nostalgia for the golden days of the poker boom (and the golden days of NVG).

How far away it all seems now.
I do have Ship It.......in my library.

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06-18-2014 , 01:00 AM
Dutch just bagged another bracelet and $288k, chances twoplustwo gets paid?
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06-18-2014 , 02:12 AM
Probably the same chance that the people he scammed when he shut down his poker site and kept all the deposits. I guess full tilt owner and the guys who owned UB learned something from Dutch.
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