They're going to arrest all the truckers and then release the mandate while they're all in jail. Which I think will look good on them.

I only wonder how many of the truckers realize that they may also be facing conspiracy charges? Especially the leaders who livestream themselves engaged in one. Good times.

Damn. I moved to victoria 3 years ago from the US and my house is already up 60%. Not that this actually helps me in any way, but we really debated moving to Canada, renting for a year or two, and only then buying and thank god we didn't.

You actually think they are holding them? I assumed they be released on bail immediately

I think they're going to get soft glove treatment, because of politics. But they shouldn't.

Imagine what would happen if covid had even a 10% or a 20% mortality rate and these yahoos were out and about arguing for their 'right' to deliberately spread it. Like if one got loose in Toronto and started infecting people pre-vaccinations we'd be looking at conservatively 40,000 dead just in that city alone.

We'd lock them up and throw away the key and not even think twice.

So 2.5 years in we are still talking about "what if" 10-20% mortality rates when as of right now the omicron mortality rate amongst our vaccinated population is less than the flu.

A real danger to society.

So you are admitting that Trudeau's mandate was all a bunch of nonsense in the first place and pure theatre.

I agree too.

It by far is nothing more than a peaceful protest that yes is illegal . Than they should be released on bail and not let back into the area or you arrest them again

It seems the strategy they are using now could have been put in place weeks ago without the emergencies act. It seems they are now following Cuepee's plan

This seems like a pretty silly way to describe it. There have been millions in economic damages. That isn't "peaceful". I get what you are trying to say, there hasn't been bloodshed (remember, these are all white people so the police have been kid gloving them the entire ****ing time). But it is far, far worse than just merely being illegal like oh i dunno they didn't get the proper permit.

Are you sure? Didn't the interim chief say yesterday that the specific tactics they are currently using like establishing these no-go zones were things that the emergenicies act provided and they couldn't have done without it?

Trudeau should be investigated for his conflicts of interest being invested in pharma companies is what should actually happen

No. Working french is all gone due to lack of use.

I would have moved to Montreal and not QC. I like QC more now, because Montreal has lost some of its Euro feel. When I first started visiting Montreal Ste. Catherine Street, was a great street full of unique and nice restaurants and bars and now it is mostly chain restaurants. I still really enjoy Old Montreal and will come for any the big festivals and usually stay at Hotel Place d'Armes, as I love their roof top bar, but for me, now QC has way more charm. and outside festivals I will always go there.

The company I was a partner in almost bought a company with its head office in Old Montreal and I was very excited for that, as I would have then had a condo paid for me to live and visit there. Too bad it fell thru. They were badly cooking their books and it got exposed during our diligence and they had to fire a bunch of people. That company's EA gal was drop dead gorgeous.

Oh to be the guy whose first post is just moronic conspiracy theories.

I raised this exact question all the time with BFI Freedum Derps.

At what level of death and how bad would a Pandemic have to be before they would say it was ok to forcibly impose measures on the derps who would want to walk around and maximum spread it?

They avoided that question like the plague and danced around it. Some said 'of course if it was so much worse than covid, then measures COULD be justified'. So I would ask then 'at what level of lives lost? Give me a ball park'.

Silence.

This is a good thing.

Not because I am taking sides on the issue but because any such order, pushing the envelop on gov't powers should always be challenged and reviewed and then boundaries understood and established.

I am shocked you did not accuse me of setting up a shadow account to bash Justin


I am curious how long it takes for the Civil Liberties thing to drag out? As well can they proceed with their action even after the government ends the act that is if it passes the senate as JT's little Bxxtch will vote for it.

I think Canada needs to know if the government over stepped itself

The argument would have more heft if it wasn't premised on what an interim police chief said - police have kettled protestors without an emergencies act in Toronto during the G20 and a bunch of times in Montreal. Ottawa police claiming they need the act in order to deal with the protestors is problematic.

Kettling, whatever one thinks of that, is not the same as a no-go zone. I was in Toronto during the G20 protests, fun times, and broadly speaking don't think that is a model we want to be emulating.

Isn't my first post just my first post in a long time for some reason my post count was reset to zero, must be the revamping of the website, and that is public
knowledge that he has made large profits along with Doug Ford during this pandemic.

Let's unpack the world of nutjob conspiracies for a moment. Your claim seems to be that uh Justin Trudeau - whose investments are in a blind trust - must by "public knowledge" have pharma stocks in them as does mine and as does almost anyone investedt in the market, and thus something something conspiracy tin foil covid policy?

Yeah Canada is very strict on that I think even family members trades are under strict scrutiny.

Now if you wanted to say large sums of $$$ are donated to the Trudeau Foundation to influence decisions he makes .....


And can we all agree Justin go get a haircut

Agreed it was taking a sledgehammer to a fly - but the fact something so heavy-handed is allowed under normal circumstances should give you pause: there are many options (none of which were used in Ottawa) which could have been tried before giving the federal government unlimited powers.

Come on - surely by now you must know that these people are earnest until shown how much **** they're full of: at which time it's just "trolling - lol".

I don't know. I was listening to the press conference, and the interim chief answered a journalist question that the current set of actions being used to clear out the protesters could not have been done without the extra powers from the ontario state of emergency and the federal emergencies act. Regardless, what we currently have is not an application of "unlimited powers" but a fairly narrow and targeted application both geographically and in the scope of what new things police are doing. Perhaps the biggest thing done is the freezing of the leader's bank accounts that are getting the givesendgo money. Given the clear problem and economic damage, I don't see this as obviously wrong.

That's irrelevant. It's not for a bunch of yahoos to second guess public health policy and block thoroughfares and border crossings to impose their will.

Trudeau and his government was elected by the people to make decisions like that. Nobody elected Pat King to even be a dogcatcher.