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12-20-2021 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I'll expound a little on DonkJr's post.

In our formative years, let's say 15, some of us read "Atlas Shrugged". Others read Marx and Engels. The smarter ones realise that both of those are extremist positions and take a more centrist view. Others, like you, never grow out of it. It's just basically saying that you are a bit of a dumb-dumb, nothing more.

Ironically enough, Ayn Rand, Karl Marx, and Friedrich Engels were all intelligent enough to know that their position was an extreme, and were using it as a foil for counterarguments. Unfortunately, their followers are not as intelligent as they were.
seriously, what is extreme about Marx's writings?
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12-20-2021 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
I get my info from up on high. I'm afraid the big man doesn't want to be credited; in fact, he is pretty shy, he doesn't even want to be shown.
I would encourage to stop posting until you sober up.
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12-20-2021 , 10:29 AM
I'm timing this thread out for 24 hours, and when it is re-opened the discussion is free to continue without the insults.
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12-21-2021 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLOL
Its a Democratic Republic, not a "democracy", the difference isn't minor.
Anyway, per your definition, American Republicans aren't anywhere near that. Could it be because you're so sheltered/naive and clueless as to what actual 'fascism' looks like that you simply apply yet another (x)ist label to anyone you disagree with?
Oh, do explain to me the difference. I'm all ears.

As per my definition you agreed to try to convince me that America and in particular the GOP weren't fascistic. Instead you repeat what your idiot friends have been saying ? That's not very convincing. But okay. It's not your job to put out any effort.

I'd still like to hear your profound reasoning on Democratic Republic and democracy though.
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12-21-2021 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
The Supreme Court disagrees with you. For example, many of Mr. Obama's executive orders were struck down.

Did Senator McCain deny the validity of the 2008 election? Did Mr Romney deny the validity of the 2012 election? What President other than Mr. Trump deny the validity of an election? Even VP Pence and AG Barr accepted the validity of the election.

I will exercise my freedom to deny it.

Happy trolling!
Yeah, there were people who plotted to kill Hitler and Mussolini too. Does that prove that Italy and Germany weren't fascist states ?
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12-21-2021 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
I didn't use the word project in the Freud definition of the term. Sorry to have confused you by using a word that was used for hundreds of years before Freud was born. I have no idea if you're projecting your own feelings or not - I only took PSY101 in college and am not qualified for that.
You did use it in the Freudian sense. You used it improperly because you didn't understand what it actually meant. Then you went back and made an excuse to cover for your ignorance. That seems like a lot more work then just learning but....whatever. As I said, you meant to say I jumped to a conclusion which is a totally different concept.

So if you can't understand and/or learn what basic concepts mean even when someone points it out to you, what chance do you really think you have of forming an opinion on complex political ideologies ?

Maybe go hang out in the movie thread. They're playing all the classics this month.
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12-21-2021 , 09:22 AM
Coming out swinging!!!
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12-21-2021 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLOL
Its a Democratic Republic, not a "democracy", the difference isn't minor.
Anyway, per your definition, American Republicans aren't anywhere near that. Could it be because you're so sheltered/naive and clueless as to what actual 'fascism' looks like that you simply apply yet another (x)ist label to anyone you disagree with?
The current state of the GOP:

- lead by a man, Trump, who has zero regard for the law as it pertains to him or his actions
- Trump and his Admin do not believe in nor submit to any concept of co-equal branches having any authority to 'check' his executive
- Trump and co are systemically dismantling the State and local elections apparatuses and installing sycophants who have made it clear in the last election they were all for throwing out any results that saw Trump lose and imposing their pics
- Trump and Co have no issue with weaponizing the military against US citizens on US soil


There is more but let me know what of the above you think does not fit the fascist handbook?
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12-21-2021 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
You did use it in the Freudian sense.
Now you're a mind-reader?

If it helps, replace the word project in my post with ascribe, assert, attribute... whatever works for you.

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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
Maybe go hang out in the movie thread. They're playing all the classics this month.

As for classic movies, don't go to any; they project the film onto a screen and you and Freud may take issue with that.
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12-21-2021 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Now you're a mind-reader?

If it helps, replace the word project in my post with ascribe, assert, attribute... whatever works for you.




As for classic movies, don't go to any; they project the film onto a screen and you and Freud may take issue with that.
I'm not reading your mind, I'm reading what you wrote.

You really aren't good at communicating simple ideas. I'm not sure how you were college material but you think swinging hammers is beneath you so you're kind of in a jam.
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12-21-2021 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
I'm not reading your mind, I'm reading what you wrote.
If it helps, replace the word project in my post with ascribe, assert, attribute... whatever works for you.

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You really aren't good at communicating simple ideas. I'm not sure how you were college material but you think swinging hammers is beneath you so you're kind of in a jam.
From communicating ideas to swinging hammers... what are you going on about?
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12-21-2021 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
As for classic movies, don't go to any; they project the film onto a screen and you and Freud may take issue with that.
Ok, that was actually pretty good. Even Rflush will appreciate it.
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12-21-2021 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Ok, that was actually pretty good. Even Rflush will appreciate it.
He did manage to use the word correctly AND make a (sort of) funny.

So points for style.
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12-21-2021 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes

That out of the way, show me which countries have the most freedom as the USA while also having lower incarceration rates and lower capital punishment rates than the USA.
Many countries are more free in some ways and less in others. Here's a way some countries are much more free than the US.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam
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12-21-2021 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
If it helps, replace the word project in my post with ascribe, assert, attribute... whatever works for you.



From communicating ideas to swinging hammers... what are you going on about?
Yeah, I got you mixed up with that other lol boy.
I knew that was going to happen because you have similar handles and the same hive mind.
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12-21-2021 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Many countries are more free in some ways and less in others. Here's a way some countries are much more free than the US.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

Freedom to roam is one of my most important freedoms. I do love the US, but that is one big reason I would find it very difficult to live there.

It is hard to explain, but it feels claustrophobic to consider life without it. The idea that if you see something in nature you can't just... go.
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12-21-2021 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Many countries are more free in some ways and less in others. Here's a way some countries are much more free than the US.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam

We have the freedom to stand on our lawn and wave a long rifle a passersby. Isn't that worth any amount of not enjoying God's bounty ?
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12-21-2021 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Freedom to roam is one of my most important freedoms. I do love the US, but that is one big reason I would find it very difficult to live there.

It is hard to explain, but it feels claustrophobic to consider life without it.
Just don't touch (or look at) my stuff and we'll get along fine.
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12-21-2021 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
Just don't touch (or look at) my stuff and we'll get along fine.

Thanks, I'll turn back now.
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12-21-2021 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds
Oh, do explain to me the difference. I'm all ears.

As per my definition you agreed to try to convince me that America and in particular the GOP weren't fascistic. Instead you repeat what your idiot friends have been saying ? That's not very convincing. But okay. It's not your job to put out any effort.

I'd still like to hear your profound reasoning on Democratic Republic and democracy though.
You're acting like its a concept I'm just making up here for the sake of argument and not a fully established and inarguable political concept.
I won't go down the road of fully warranted name-calling by saying something like "Jesus, are you seriously THIS clueless about an issue you apparently feel confident enough to debate? What a dumbass...", so instead, i'll say something like:

Just what is it that you need 'explained' and what are the chances that, if you don't even understand this Level 0 premise, you'll understand whatever explanation is to come?
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12-21-2021 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLOL
You're acting like its a concept I'm just making up here for the sake of argument and not a fully established and inarguable political concept.
I won't go down the road of fully warranted name-calling by saying something like "Jesus, are you seriously THIS clueless about an issue you apparently feel confident enough to debate? What a dumbass...", so instead, i'll say something like:

Just what is it that you need 'explained' and what are the chances that, if you don't even understand this Level 0 premise, you'll understand whatever explanation is to come?
Unfortunately for you the chances that I'll understand exactly what you say are pretty good.

Anyway, I said the republicans (who I see as a literal fascist party at this time and probably a de facto fascist party for the past hundred years) are often happy to tell me that America is not a democracy but a Democratic Republic. You said they're correct (you agree with the republican view of American government) and that it's no minor difference.

I asked you to explain what you think the difference is.

ie what distinction were YOU making when you said it.

If you need any more help reading, comprehending and responding to basic English language posts you should probably hire a tutor.
Calling people who have mastered these basic skills a dumbass could easily have a boomerang effect and expose you to group derision.
That would be terrible.
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12-21-2021 , 07:02 PM
Wow...

Are you alright, Flush? Is something else going on?
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12-21-2021 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
Wow...

Are you alright, Flush? Is something else going on?
He hasn't been the same since I soul-crushed him on Freud.

Must have been a long 24-hours during that thread closure.
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12-21-2021 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
Wow...

Are you alright, Flush? Is something else going on?
Good question. In the past, at least some of his posts weren't pure trolling. And a good number of his posts were actually quite good. No idea what has happened to him.
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12-21-2021 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Good question. In the past, at least some of his posts weren't pure trolling. And a good number of his posts were actually quite good. No idea what has happened to him.
This is Donk boys contribution to the discussion :

"You are certifiably insane. I suggest you get off these forums for a couple of days and spend that time looking for a psychiatrist, because who knows where you will end up if this keeps progressing. "

The fact that you're complaining to a piece of dead wood about my trolling probably indicates that you just don't like what I said and don't have an answer to it that satisfies you.

We're probably a 9 on the fascist scale at this point. Sorry to be the one to break it to you but no worries. The average pleb just lives day to day no matter what.
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