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I have had to accept a government I didn't vote for , most of my life.
I have never before seen a western opposition party " resist", encourage resistance, and try to overthrow a democratically elected leader. You are meant to get behind the elected party.


So no, to the original quote, that Dems are the party for democracy. They are clearly the opposite.

Agreed. They will turn a blind eye to Northam in his KKK robes with a friend in blackface, and the " we don't want another old white guy" is obviously just lip service. They want an old white guy so much, they are willing to push a corrupt kiddie sniffer with cognitive issues.
Their main woman of color is Elizabeth Warren.
It's astonishing that dem voters can't see they are getting conned. That they are being treated like fools.

Oh sure. DEMOCRATS should have fought Trump (GOP/corporate party) on this. But of course the democrats are also a corporate party.

I'm not blaming that on Bernie though. The Dems got what they wanted and Bernie is just going along doing his thing as always. He knows he's not getting the nomination at this point. He won't split the party (he would have last time if that were his intent) so.....move on and let the Dems fail again.

Business as usual.

Obviously if the polls are accurate they would support Bernie.
Which is what many of us have been trying to beat into your thick skull in this thread. The math doesn't add up to Biden being the front runner. Other factors besides what the voters want are in play.

They both do claim to represent everyone.
But of course the GOP has been a bought and paid for corporate party since the 1890s and the Dems since probably the 1990's. Before that the Dems (except in the south) represented the more ordinary citizens.

And that's why the party elite would rather have Trump as president than Bernei imo. And you can't prove me wrong. It's so obvious at this point.

Does it matter what that leader does, or is this some kind of absolute to you?

For instance, if the leader and his oligarchy started criming and grabbing extremely unusual levels of power in the open regularly (and worse privately), and that leader's party conspired to keep him in charge by all means, do you just accept it?

Because that was the case over 2 years ago, and it's only been compounded cumulatively.

Joe Rogan saying what everyone except the deluded can see. Some on here are denying Biden is mumbling and stumbling through his words...................

“You have to be able call out s**t that’s wrong on your side,” Rogan began. “And this is one of the problems that the Democratic Party is having right now with this Joe Biden guy. You guys gotta be able to call it out, you can’t let this slide, because everybody else see’s it and Trump is going to eat him alive. He’s going to eat that guy alive.”

“The guy can barely remember what he’s talking about while he’s talking,” Rogan continued.

Regarding videos that show Biden struggling to talk or remember events, Rogan said, “Play any of them, they’re all crazy. Every video of him recently talking he’s stumbling through s**t, he forgets what he’s talking about.”

I'm no big Biden fan--but does anyone remember Reagan, W and trump? Not exactly great examples themselves on that front.

It's as if some people haven't heard Biden speak in the last year.

Yeah, but have you seen Trump govern? Choose wisely... If you're still alive in November.

Or have heard him speak for decades

N/m. I suppose you mean the democrats are the racist hypocrites but you're being sarcastic..

Are you threatening me?

Only if I'm able to control Trump's response to this mess. Otherwise, no, of course not.

IOW... It was more of a general "GL Y'all" to every American.

CNN, ABC, NBC , Huffington Post, still haven't covered Bidens sexual assault accusation.

Would they cover it if it was against Bernie?

im gonna take a shot in the complete dark and say.

yes.


for bidens defense, not sure how much legs this story has. as opposed to trumps previous affairs

Live now.

LISTEN TO DOCTORS AND NURSES: BERNIE SPEAKS TO FRONTLINE CRISIS WORKERS

Looking like a rout. Right now, people think trump is doing ok on CV. Once the bodies start piling up, the market hits 15000, unemployment hits 20...well Trump will be run out of town on a rail. I wanted Bernie, but people listened to Joe Biden this past year and just think, this is the safe choice.

I think what we learned from Biden vs Bernie is that there is a whole world out there not forums or twitter or Joe Rogan or the Hill "Rising" or TYT or David Pakman etc etc.

On Super Tuesday, they showed up. They don't see Biden as this senile rapist international criminal. They see the same guy they knew for 40 years only older. It makes them feel good. They liked him with Obama.

Only like 10% of us pay attention. The DNC is basically running Biden's Ghost's reputation against Trump's death toll.

Biden did much better in the last couple debates than in the beginning. He deserves some credit. It wasn't all DNC rigage. Biden won MA, crushed VA, NC on super Tues. That was shocking to me.

And Trump is driving huge turnout for Dems. There is a reason Dems demolished GOP in 2018 and every special election in 2019 and why Biden is up so big headsup...people are sick of Trump, his lies, and his know-nothing supporters.

People know the facts. The fact is the only demo in the entire world that supports Trump is uneducated white men. And they see the only reason for is the racism. Most people don't like kids in cages and overt racism. All smart people don't like those things. Trump support is by definition ignorance. Or just evil, that is, "i'm 1% i like tax cuts and im white who cares?". So most correctly see anyone who has any taint of Trump is just by definition odious beyond contempt.

I could see bodies piling up. I think the stock market will retest the lows, which on the Dow is like 18,000. Could it break through that and go to 15,000? Absolutely. Unemployment will be high but will it be 20%? Seems like a stretch. Still, none of us can predict the future in regards to what is in store for the country over the next 8 months. I do agree if all that happens then Joe Biden is the next President of the United States.

The reason I don't think unemployment will reach 20% there is because we just passed a massive $2.2 trillion "stimulus" bill which is largely aimed at keeping people employed. This bill will likely have long term consequences that are very negative for the country but in the short term this bill boosts the economy, lifts the stock market, and lowers unemployment. These things are all great for Trump's re-election.

That's not even mentioning that the masses are being bought off with "stimulus" checks. When someone gives you money it's kind of hard to be outraged at him, and I use the word "him" because Donald Trump will take full credit for this bill. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about that and Joe Biden can't take any credit for it whatsoever (other candidates could have).

Furthermore, this may not even be the last "stimulus" bill. If the Democrats were smart it would be but what's to say there won't be another bill in a couple months ? Multiple bills have pretty much been the plan the whole time...and tbh, when it comes to certain industries, Democrats will have no choice but to pass "stimulus."

Also, the Federal Reserve is doing all that it can to pump up the stock market. I think this economy is screwed, but that doesn't mean in October/November things won't look positive. At that time the stock market could be back up and unemployment could look relatively ok. That's not to say it won't all go to hell in Dec/Jan/Feb but that's not Trump's concern. Trump's only concern right now is to get things looking good for the election, and the Democrats seem more than willing to oblige him with that.

As for the polls, you really shouldn't take them seriously unless you just want to feel good.

Yeah in part because he mostly kept his mouth shut. He's not going to be able to hide in a 1 on 1 debate. I can't imagine many people he could beat in a 1 on 1 debate. Maybe Beto and Rick Perry.


Absolutely. It's extremely impressive that someone with so obvious dementia could dominate the Democratic Primaries the way he did and potentially become the next President of the United States. We've seen history made in recent Presidential elections but this would be something truly special.

His former opponents all dropped out and endorsed him right before Super Tuesday.

This is clear evidence that you just don't get it. Given this statement, I'm surprised you've been able to move past the 2016 elections to the point that you actually realize Hillary is not our President.

Polls have actually proven to be highly predictive of elections. What do you do to get a sense of the electorate, take LSD and roll dice?

fine, just saw the other response...umm it's possible i'm trolling someone

you mean biden isn't a lock? oh ok thanks.